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 The Tailoring Thread, Bespoke. Nothing beats a perfect fit

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post May 23 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(bloke1 @ May 23 2010, 04:42 PM)
Wtf?
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It looks kinda odd, but it actually works. The shirt is drying now, I might take a pic of it.


Added on May 23, 2010, 6:26 pm
QUOTE(malutapimau @ May 23 2010, 02:49 PM)
ive discovered that the white cotton linen @ kamdar can be the best substitute of this unsourceable cotton interfacing,,,

the shirt fits very very well, it makes me rethink that my decision to go with traditional english cut shirts was a bad idea,,,,i should ask for more fitted cut----the soft collar / cuffs probably are the best ive seen so far,,2-3x better than mines are---

id ask for no selvage on any parts of the pants nxt time------we dont want people to have an impression that teh pants is the only premium cloth we have / its our 1st time dealing w/ premium cloth thus the reason we tell the world about it?
----errrr its like my flirt guru used to say----those that spend the night with pretty girls everyday tell no one about it,, those that do it one time will tell everyone about it---
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My journey wrt fit is a long one. AL made me a shirt: It was wonderful. A conventional fit shirt, a little roomy everywhere, but so nice. Then I went to Ron at Fit&Match who made me a shirt like a second skin: it was very close fitting and showed the contours of my body, but a little puffy at the back and tight at the elbows. Then I had ISTT copy Ron's cut while adding 0.5" to the elbows for a white linen shirt. But such a cut is not suitable for business -- it's more for showing I go to the gym. So I went to MBT3 and had 2 shirts made with an extra inch to the torso and 0.5" to the elbows. I was happy with this fit. When I went to AL last week for my latest shirt, he said MBT3's were too wide and the balance off. He reduced the front by 0.5" and the back by 1" while keeping the elbow measurement. Added 0.25" to the neck for more comfort. Made the collar taller. So this shirt is actually EVEN NARROWER than Ron's. It's just that the extra drape at the back was relocated to the front.

The selvedge is invisible. It is hidden deep inside the front pocket. This is the traditional place to put the selvedge to remind the owner of the cloth. (I only use good cloth.) This is my fifth pair of bespoke trousers.


Added on May 23, 2010, 6:45 pmThe reason I went back to using AL even though he was more expensive than any of the others is because, after trying so many tailors, none came close to the degree of perfection in workmanship. Ron did a fantastic job for me -- single needle double stitches, beautiful buttonholes, high-density stitches, removable stays, hand-sewn buttons etc etc. All made in-house in The Curve. But this is not his usual way of make.

But AL's workmanship is just incredible. The highest-density stitches I've seen anywhere, and when I hold the collar or cuffs to the light, I can see that even the insides are cut/folded symmetrically. I tried to get MBT3 to deliver this quality, and he tried hard, but I could see the struggle in the shirt. The unfamiliarity and sweat. AL did not have to try. He just is like this. No trying. Just being. A natural, effortless joining of cloth.

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post May 23 2010, 09:30 PM

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Nice shirt + pants sir! I recommend titanium collar stays though. About US$8 on the net.
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post May 23 2010, 10:07 PM

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No collar stays for the most beautiful roll.
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post May 23 2010, 11:43 PM

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out of stock, unfortunately

http://shop.stiffstays.com/TI-STANDARD-SIZ...R-SET-TI104.htm


Added on May 23, 2010, 11:55 pmI started this new job, and only the MD and I use tailors. Every time he sees me in the elevator or when I go into his office, he eyes me up and down!

My shoes are also the noisiest in the whole building. I'm very conscious of this because the espresso machine is right next to the MD's office, and I make a lot of noise when walking to it! My previous office had carpeting, this one doesn't.

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post May 24 2010, 12:48 AM

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How old is that MD of yours?
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post May 24 2010, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ May 23 2010, 11:43 PM)
out of stock, unfortunately

http://shop.stiffstays.com/TI-STANDARD-SIZ...R-SET-TI104.htm


Added on May 23, 2010, 11:55 pmI started this new job, and only the MD and I use tailors. Every time he sees me in the elevator or when I go into his office, he eyes me up and down!

My shoes are also the noisiest in the whole building. I'm very conscious of this because the espresso machine is right next to the MD's office, and I make a lot of noise when walking to it! My previous office had carpeting, this one doesn't.
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Trust me...they will move the espresso machine just beside your workstation area next month.....
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post May 24 2010, 01:19 AM

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Oh dear. I hope your immediate superior doesn't hold it against you. Some people can be quite vile.
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post May 24 2010, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 24 2010, 01:19 AM)
Oh dear. I hope your immediate superior doesn't hold it against you. Some people can be quite vile.
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Because you dress better than them? blink.gif
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post May 24 2010, 01:43 AM

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Yes. Hard to believe eh?
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post May 24 2010, 09:29 AM

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the bosses spend $$$ on luxurious clothes,,,,,,but because bosses (as usual) think they know better than others on everything, they think that read/lurk style/fashion mags/blogs/forums is boring/challenge their intelligence----
so many of their clothes are badly fitted----when a well dressed subordinate wearing just avg/non-premium tailored clothes wows more pretty girls than them, envy + hate soon arise=========


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ive found some interesting hardwares for my nxt pants----

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post May 24 2010, 02:48 PM

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Nice hardware. Button fly?

I believe most bosses believe their chunky fat Rolexes and position are sufficient for doing most of the talking.

No one wants their subordinates to outshine them now would they? If the underling is top notch but kowtows, fine.

However, if the subordinate outdresses them AND exhibits prickish behaviour, then they go on the warpath!
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post May 24 2010, 04:03 PM

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Kotmj is just the watchman.



Added on May 24, 2010, 4:11 pmKot shifu! Show us your cutaway buttondown!

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post May 24 2010, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(crapoccur @ May 24 2010, 12:48 AM)
How old is that MD of yours?
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He's a fiery 60-year old European warlord. He makes enemies left and right and spends the whole day plotting their destruction.


Added on May 24, 2010, 8:01 pm
QUOTE(silencer @ May 24 2010, 01:15 AM)
Trust me...they will move the espresso machine just beside your workstation area next month.....
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That would signal the end of my short tenure there.


Added on May 24, 2010, 8:02 pm
QUOTE(malutapimau @ May 24 2010, 09:29 AM)
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Corozo, I'm pretty sure.


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post May 24 2010, 08:12 PM

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In this pic, the shirt was laundered for 60 mins (which includes a dry spin at the end), ironed by yours truly, then worn for 9 hours in the office before the pic was taken.

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post May 24 2010, 08:23 PM

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Ladies, I present you with the CutawayButtondown, another innovation by the Bespoked Group of Companies.

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post May 24 2010, 08:35 PM

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*rubs eyes furiously* ohmy.gif
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post May 24 2010, 08:36 PM

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you will dream of getting one made tonite
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post May 26 2010, 08:45 AM

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i tot the use of a buttondown is to avoid the pointy/long collar fr flapping/folding up? cutaway collars wont have this weakness

kotshifu, do you still have the extra cloth of that linen? its not too late to remake the collar-------


Added on May 26, 2010, 8:56 am
QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 24 2010, 02:48 PM)
Nice hardware. Button fly?
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no more buttonfly pants this year,,,for 2010, its all about minimalist/KISS approach---

QUOTE(kotmj @ May 24 2010, 08:00 PM)
Corozo, I'm pretty sure.
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that corozos(?) are even cheaper than some plastics,,,~15sen/ea


Added on May 26, 2010, 9:44 amive collected my new pants-----it was a disaster,,,,,i left my best tailored pants as a sample for this tailor the whole 2months to copy exactly but in teh end it still turned out all wrong----totally unwearable, ive come to conclusion that rm50 is the benchmark price for an acceptable bespoke cloth locally---anyting less we're asking to much-----rm40=we're going to play sartorial russian roeulete game----

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post May 26 2010, 12:19 PM

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I've also collected mine.

The linen pants are screwed!! It's so translucent that all the seams and even my logos are fokking visible and I don't like the look of it! Not a bit!

FOKFOKFOK. I'll tell MBT to put in some lining.


Added on May 26, 2010, 12:28 pmLokechai, Old Grandmaster Kot and Malutapisangatmau. What do they have in common?

They're all sartorially cussed!

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post May 26 2010, 01:30 PM

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I like this old mystery tailor. He gave me old school pockets. They are so thick and substantial! Even thicker than those used in jeans.
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Self-fabric back pockets!
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Best of all, he charged me RM30. The seat is little roomy though. I'm going back to him.

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