seriously speaking, not so stable
it is still a small car, high speed stability still not so stable compare to large sedan..Especially, when it reach >175kmh, whole car start to shake and intrude in cabin..it much very much noticeable untill passenger can feel it.

Only when the traffic is clear, i only Speed..coz i usually travel in the early morning, 5am start my journey liao..

before i change to lower profile tyre, drive at batangkali or cameron route, the tyre sure break the traction and screeching noise...but now change to better rubber, not even screeching noise heard...

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Added on May 2, 2009, 11:08 amFill up full, it will show 44xkm before next refuel needed. If "overfill" it, i can see it show 46xkm ...

But don't trust the meter, fuel gauge drop very fast..

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Caltex, Petronas. but it is very subjective, the difference is so small.

yeah..i didn't expect it behave like a 2.0L sedan. Met a mechanic at Brinchang,Cameron..he said Campro engine cannot tuned for FC, he can tune the MitSu based Waja to have better FC but not for Campro.

It is now 28.5k km...i think have to ask them to clean the throttle body when it reach 30k service..

now i waiting to see how long the auto gearbox can last after revv like mad.

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yeap, i revv everyday..lol I have the Need for Speed ATF change at 20k km already, upcoming 40k km have to change again..

But hor, Civic 1.8 is now rm11xk...can buy 2PerSona dee..somemore hardly any discount given by HM ...The best bang for bucks is still the new City with 5AT, just imagine at 120kmh, it revv at 2600rpm only...i managed to do 0.165cents per km for penang town driving which is prettty good. PerSona aah, at least 0.19cents

nothing much you can do..it is the torque curve.

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Added on May 2, 2009, 10:32 pmfamily members ride, so i have chance to swap as daily ride...
Loan repayment still okay, but our monthly fuel usage is on the high side...maintenance fees is important...my house WiraLution per month can do 5k km..every 2months major service..

Bro loong, 90k km, auto gearbox sure okay wan..wait till 1xxk km, major problem come already... It is not related to ATF fluid flushing, auto gearbox is a fragile item.

me too, i recall the time i got my license 10years ago, whenever traffic light turn green, wheel spining all the way..smoke the tyre until clutch get burned.

This post has been edited by ralf: May 2 2009, 10:34 PM

cask your dad to swap his Altis temporary, wait till your dad visit petrol station..he'll realized it is a CamPro

New City has improved alot especially high speed stability.
The brake system is class leading, top nothc quality, has set a benchmark for its category.."Two thumbs up"
Cornering isn't that bad although there's simple torsion beam behind...can match PerSona handling..no joke..
Honda Paintwork quality<-- Good...better than Toyota ! Proton oem paint(KanSai) suckss..
Build quality of course is much more better than Proton where you don't find rattling noise here and there..

PerSonaSE does not come cheap, RM60K..! The additional accesories doesn't justify...

that's why B or M Line still the best bang for bucks..

Loong brother is not scaring you..

It is a fact..

anyone can post the details for 30k km service at PESC branch?

You went for it already?I check other forum, TesCo,Carrefour selling Shell 5-40w full syn at rm139 , Mobil1 5-50w full sync at rm150 ONLY ! My dad told me weeks ago but i doubt that..!

Haven't go time to go Tesco/Carrefoure..if can buy, then can save at least rm50 for oil change. SC charge rm209 for Shell 5-40w..

If i'm not mistaken, both of our car mileage almost same now.. i check mine today 284xxkm..end of the month, should be 31000km...

Use full. New car can enjoy full syn. After some time, engine start to eat oil..cannot enjoy full sync liao.

If semi, change at 5k, still need labour charge wat.. price almost same..

Got problem, going through speed bump...lower arm "dhhupp" sounds, very obvious .. I check front ashober, no oil leaking sign...tyre wear out nicely, shouldn't not be ashober problem

my hand itchy, go open the brake oil cap and check for brake fluid level everytime open up the bonnet...not sure if got air stuck my last service, SC mix DOT3 with DOT4, very angry leh. thinking of flush it out and load with new DOT4 oil

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SC mechanic mix it the color is now rojak color, red+yellow mix..

no choice then, have to drain and flush the brake fluid. Somemore, i check the brake fluid is overfill..yeakkss..

Yours is tyre problem, can't examine how many thread left..a tyre with 90% tread already caused serious steering shaking issue after bring the car to a skid pad.
Don't have to kasi corner...a good example is during emergency brake, if very heavy braking applied..skidmark and smokes coming out..did it only once, the tyre said Bye Bye already. After that, you can feel it is no longer smooth..

but hey, Michelin new tyre, Primacy LC launched already..have 195/60/15 size

50% tread left? No matter what type of tyre...it is getting noisier dee.
Somemore a new tyre only have around 7.x-8.x mm tread...50% left means, it perform bad during wet especially Aquaplane...the tyre cannot cut water 1..
Malaysia weather, when it rains heavily, go and measure the water level on road...you'll be shock..

This post has been edited by ralf: May 6 2009, 12:12 AM

4.6 - 5.9L/100km

Yours is manual ?

congratulations, you have did it

You only did it for testing purpose, or in future you drive like this...

I ask them not to include engine treatment X1R for service already..this little thingy cost rm50

hye guys,

I am going to Completely flush out the old brake oil, it is now mix with DOT3+4 (by PESC mechanic)...

Wanna change to Bosch Super DOT5.1, anyone using it?

Just bought 2 bottles of SHELL Helix ultra 5-40w from TESCO next to EGATE Penang...plenty of stocks there.

SC charge rm209 for shell 5-40 helix ultra...quite worth to try it out , @rm139 only, nothing to lose

The oil is imported and made in EU..the plastic bottle is soft soft type unlike the one we purchase locally, label is abit different, plan to buy 6 bottles but i also afraid it could be fake oil. .so end up bought 2 bottles only for testing.

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Human instinct ma..when it is selling cheap, people suspicious it is fake...

At first My dad told me TesCo and CFour selling, but i doubt it.. Gonna try it for upcoming service which is 2weeks later..If it is good, then i proceed to buy another 4-6bottles .

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Added on May 11, 2009, 9:54 pmYa lor, every 10k service once...Still can save some $$ in long run.

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can fly.
I will try to post a comparison between the one we purchase locally and made in EU later ..

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Added on May 12, 2009, 6:22 pmWiralution, send for TB cleaning and reset ECU, kena charge rm45 that was year 2006..

For ECU, no need to retune. Once TB has been cleaned, it will reset back... that was for Wira..not sure for PerSona

This post has been edited by ralf: May 12 2009, 06:22 PM

Recommended RON for Campro earlier when it was first released.. RON98 isn't it?

Now pump RON97 VPower also feel like no difference..no significant improvement. I could not imagine when it is time for RON95

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