huhhhh, So many years already still not perfect yet.
Still comes with Jukebox

wat do u mean?

my half tank petrol mileage.....

petrol brand:BHP

total traveled 122km

driving conditions:...round 3/4 times at ss15 to find parking...den highway frm klg>subang>klg....den earlier went pyramid(round for 30mins in parking lot), aircond blow normal....heavy brake few times, and heavy cornering

speed: 80km>110km/ accidentally rev to 4000/5000rpm just now...shifting gear at 3000rpm/3200rpm/2500rpm......

note: havent change my airfilter since 9000km,oil changed on 19000km,spark plugs from factory never change before.....tyre pressure 230kpsi....pumped 1month ago...,two passengers including me

modification:rear and front 3point strut bar, 1 woofer..

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hmm... wut does hollow vibration means or sounds like?
not sure from which part the sound is from, just knew that it comes from front part of driver side... dunno inside or outside... will try to open window and listen is it from inside or outside...

I think ok lar this car, you can say the best car proton has made to date. I don't like the BLM/Saga because it's severely underpowered. It actually consumes more petrol as you know lor underpowered. And then BLM/Saga you corner cepat sikit feels like buang only.

Cheers to you mate. I do think that it is one of Proton's best.

Yes, I do agree that the BLM is severely underpowered, only the cabbie versions come in a 1.6 litre model.

I used to drive a 1992 Saga with a Magma engine, I was thinkin of upgradin to the BLM until my wife told me that it was no point to upgrade as;

1. You're buying a car with less power
2. Considered same standard in a different era, lol

And then I settled down for a Persona

Saga BLM compare to PerSona, huge difference between both.

1.3 Campro under the Saga hood, abit underpowered...After driving it for more than 10K km, i can live with it. Agree with the handling, it doesn't grip while cornering..i would prefer Proton to make this car have longer wheelbase, shorter rearoverhang, and wider, then stiffer suspension.

The only good point about Saga BLM is---> it Brakessss better than PerSoNa !!

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Added on February 28, 2009, 9:41 pmi found out one better way to achieve better FC for our PerSoNa, over inflate the tyre to 250-260psi
be warn that, overinflate so much, the road contact patch is smaller, barely no gripp...at Wet, sure skid and buang..

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Added on February 28, 2009, 10:10 pmI know and understood what you mean..it's not perfect



This post has been edited by ralf: Feb 28 2009, 10:10 PM

lol....i think 235/240kpsi also more than enough d.....250>> is too much.....how much is urs??....erm....persona cornering not as good as waja...tested 90km on the waja still ok abit of throw out....persona 80km like wana throw out d and cant go further even with 3point front and rear strut bar....

but waja tires are dunlop, persona stock continental.....both cars test on the same corners.....

240psi equivalent to 35kpa..abit bumpy dee..anything > 35kpa ride is harsh. I overinflate the both front and back tyre to 33-34kpa...FC, aikss..forget it, Campro isn't related to 'fuel saving'

Waja tyre is 195/55/15 wor, cannot compare. somemore ride height and suspension is stiffer. First generation Gen2 suspension is hard too..good for cornering.
Mine, downgrade to 195/55/15...can whack corner and give Wajalution a chase.

How's ur RS brake pad?

Mine mileage at 24k km, the brake screeching sound is back !! Oouuch, the Bendix only run for 3xxx km, brake scraping noise is loud..I can confirmed that PerSona brake really got problem, nothing to deal with pad
Went to Michelin tyre shop, mechanic couldn't find the root cause. the shop girl told me few Gen2 owner faced this problem, already claim the brake disc, caliper and piston but problem yet to resolved

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Added on February 28, 2009, 10:45 pmhey, someone is selling adjustable coilover at rm900 only..very cheap!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=934529&hl=

This post has been edited by ralf: Feb 28 2009, 10:45 PM

but the waja i drive is 195/60/r15....hmmm...maybe suspension stiffer..lol...anyway..after u change ur tires to 55series, the car sure lower right??..is it noticable??....

my rs brakepads working fine..no screeching....when u change ur rs pads??..me around 22000km..now going to 25000km..but 1 thing i wana ask...y sometimes i do braking..got some rough sound from the brakepads???...normal??

come come let me touch up ur alignment!



issit most of d time in da morning especially after rain? ?

195/55/15 radius is smaller by 2cm, so practically ride height is lower by 2cm..

yea, it is rough..i suspect it is the pad scraping with some part.
I had try to wash the caliper areas with shampoo and wheel degreaser, then rinse and dry, follow by clean away the brake dust with air pump..still the same. Strange, it is most noticeable when the pad is Hot...right?

mine still on bendix, change on 20500km, now 24000km, the "rough" noise and screeching noise are back. it drive me crazy...

This post has been edited by ralf: Mar 1 2009, 01:36 AM

hmmm...mine only rough sound/feeling...but right after i use rs pads...before that i was using bosch powerplus and some other brand...both no rough sound. for the bosch if i still can remember, there is no screeching sound but one day when i was speeding 160km and did few times of highspeed braking, the brake got spongy..so i change to other brand which is "KING"...after 6000km of usage, when i press the brake, the screeching sound occur but during braking time on stop and go traffic....

the brakepads that dosent produce screeching sound is the bosch powerplus and rapidstop....this is based on my experience on using it....but right after installation of rapidstop, sometimes it will make rough sound..wonder why.. ..but not of previous brakepads i had used...maybe its a performance brake?? but stopping the car on rapidstop pads are much much better than those brakepads i had used previously....

yea..it happens after long drive or traffic jam(previous "KING" brakepads))...but for my rapidstop pads..so far no sound, just the rough sound sometime will appear....no screeching sound..

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Added on March 1, 2009, 1:37 pmowh yea..so for the 195/55/r15 tire will be smaller by 2cm??...

This post has been edited by loong2020: Mar 1 2009, 01:37 PM

i went to pump my stock tyre, and all 4 tyres is with 275 to 280psi
is it ok like that?
according to the label stick on the driver's door, its recommended to use 210psi for front and 190psi for rear tyre...

so is it ok to have so much pressure for the tyre?

I think should be okay, I pumped maximum of 300psi for my front and 250 for rear, a little, 'hard' on the road. You can feel every inch of it, very rocky and bumpy. Feels syok la on highway, but don't take my word for it, still experimenting on the perfect tire pressure

wah, 300!


Is it just my car, or persona have the tendency to have an oversteer feel when u take corner at higher speed?

kena poison ni... .....erm nope..just occur anytime....like mood...sometimes ok..sometimes no....

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Added on March 1, 2009, 4:26 pm ....its ok for acceleration and fuel saving..but its dangerous when driving on wet surfaces and heavy rain as the traction is lessen due to the overinflated pressure u pumped for ur tires, worst still, it will skid when u do cornering during heavy rain/wet surfaces...so play safe bro...

try 230/235kpsi=front and 200kpsi/210kpsi-rear....im using it now and it feels just good for pickup,cornering,and also comfort as well....all i can say u have to reduce ur air pressure asap because 280kpsi is too much..

This post has been edited by loong2020: Mar 1 2009, 04:26 PM

touch up ur alignment sure can corner 9 9~

sure or not??... now persona more body roll...can minimize it with alignment??

will give u more confindent on cornering lo~