u don't need ipod touch and 5800 together..
i sold my ipod touch after i bought my 5800 because their functionality is the same to me and i don';t have to carry my phone and ipod everwhere i go now.

i was wondering why there are quite a number of ppl selling off the 5800 ?
is there anything wrong with it ?
i was thinking of getting one actually had a few phones in mind now
a lil help here

can u all feel that video taken with 5800 is not actually at full 30fps
there is some lagginess occured most of the time
it's not as smooth as in should be

turns the sky quite purple..

and the video recording nice with widescreen but indoors or low light very grainy..

quote form smash
"Video recording: I have never seen a DVD-like video recording as grainy/noisy as this one! Seriously.. The videos will only look good if they are recorded under bright sunlight.. and bright sunlight only…. anything other than that you will notice graininiess in the video."

This post has been edited by alpha_company: Jan 5 2009, 12:42 PM

strange, i find it okay wor. quite smooth.

maybe i dun have high expectations for the video.

now i prefer to use mini qwerty..it's not not bad at all even though first impression is like impossible to type with very small keys
just try it and u'll love it..
my successful rate is on par with ipod touch qwerty

as mentioned b4
take off the cover to shoot photo
it should looks better in some degree
(but who will gonna do this = =")
lets find those who buat cermin
ask them to create high quality protection cover for us XD

some people just can't get used to touchscreen and/or typing sms difficult for them on this phone.

some sell because probs with the phone..yup i've asked those people i saw in trade zone.

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Added on January 5, 2009, 12:40 pmanybody please record and see the video properties...i think it's 30fps but grainy la..

This post has been edited by alpha_company: Jan 5 2009, 12:40 PM

it's smooth
but not as smooth as 30fps should be
if u've seen those produced by n82 and etc b4
u will feel the same way too i guess

This post has been edited by feimeng: Jan 5 2009, 12:41 PM

guys can i set the sent message to save more than 20sms...last time my se phone can save more than that lol

hi.. just want to ask, if buy ori, what does the things that comes with the box?included the stand dock to hold the phone?

if this can be done...very nice wor.. can take much better pics

maybe he meant jagged video when the camera moves so fast?
i think if jagged, it happens to all nokia video recording not exclusively happen to 5800.
the smoothness is there, only a bit jagged when the camera pan or moves too fast.

regarding grainy video...i used to own N93 for a while...the video is very grainy and almost black and white under low lighting, perhaps 5800 grainy-ness is slightly better than my old N93.

but anyway all VGA quality recording will look good on CRT TV, try it and you'll amazed at the quality on your CRT TV screen

s60 v3 can do that ..in the N series phones so i dont see any reason y it can't.

as u wish

Codec : MPEG-4 Visual
Codec/Family : MPEG-4V
PlayTime : 24s 954ms
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 2700 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 30.216 fps
Minimum frame rate : 14.925 fps
Maximum frame rate : 61.224 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.397

I wander where is the overwriting in sent item: "allow" or "not allow" option is???


Yes the stand dock is there.
The full package is here:

hmm like what kinda problems with the phone
well so far any user encountered any major problems ?

average fps is still 30fps.. but just very grainy indoors or low light

no, it's not jagged video i mentioned
just feel it doesn't reach 30fps
it's smooth but not that smooth at the same time
i dunno how to explain
haha XD

ear speaker going soft, need to fix by tightening screws inside or something like that....check pages 50+ to 60+ for info or google it..