Any particular reasons why you're thinking of joining this uni? There are better choices out there....

becos there is a dana pendidikan for this uni.the loan basically cover the rest of ptptn cos ptptn only cover rm 150,000.that seem to be my only choice if i want to pursue medical course.that why i hope i can know more about this uni so that i wont regret after enter.

are you sure you want to be saddled with such a huge debt?.....do note that this dana is NOT a scholarship, but a loan...

trust me.....by the time you graduate, there WILL be unemployed doctors....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 17 2012, 11:27 PM

but i believe is worth it...and now actually doctor is not overrate is just overrate in certain area.but actually district places like sabah,swak,kelantan still need doctor..and that is what i interested..if can,i hope i can study what i want.

Hmmm what about UTAR?

but for what i know utar does not provide any loan or scholarship.so i cant affort.

What did you get for your SPM , STPM , A-Levels, etc?... and your for your English subject?

lets put things into perspective....

the course will cost about 300k give or take....

if you do get a job with the moh, your take home pay would be maybe 4k/month, or about 50k/year....assuming you don't eat or drink, and just use the whole salary to pay beck the loan, it will take 6 years.....

if you do like to eat, have a car, go cinema etc......and you can live with half the salary, it will take 12 years....

i think it is crazy to take up such loans under the present climate of over supply.....yes, even the borneo states will be saturated.....

it's different if one has a scholarship....whether 3rd party, or fama....

my stpm 3.58.muet band 5.

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Added on June 17, 2012, 11:54 pmi did think about all these,but that is why i am considering aucms becos the dana pendidikan include scholarship.if i cant get the scholarship,den i will go for the loan.that is why i need to know is this uni good?i still considering..

This post has been edited by joycejoyce: Jun 17 2012, 11:54 PM

They just produce the numbers required and the so called loans/scholarships are all structured in such a way to make it a commercially viable entity.

Many students are attracted by the "Dr." thing and the perceived long term employment with the government and the rewards matching the top student scholars during their time.

Its only when reality strikes.......

i see from your comment in a post about pharmacy course in aucms,u say it is dominated by one community.can i know what is this mean??r u currently study in aucms??n i c someone say the medical course thr is terrible.can i know why?

Do visit the website AND the campus.

is the lecturers not good or?teaching system not good?can u tell me more about the course there because i really interest to take the course and i afraid i will be regret after i enter.

Even if I say good or no good, it doesn't help you.

Assuming if you are looking for a future partner and I said I got a friend who would suit you fine with all the good qualities there. Surely, you would not trust me and need to have a look and a "trial dating" period.

What if later on, you found out that he/she smokes, drinks, snores, digs gold, sex crazy, sleeps naked, and with a cat in bed, all of which you cannot tolerate!

Seeing is believing.

This post has been edited by cckkpr: Jun 18 2012, 03:21 PM

is that a problem?......

LOL!

[quote=limeuu,Jun 18 2012,
Hey, its trial period!

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Added on June 19, 2012, 10:48 amhttp://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2012/06/18/%E2%80%98a-licence-to-churn-out-poor-quality-doctors%E2%80%99/


The Health Ministry and the Higher Education Ministry seem to be having a tussle over the responsibility to regulate medical education in Malaysia. A turf war! It looks as though the Health Ministry has lost the tussle,” he said.

“It appears to me that the power of the MMC to recognise and accredit medical training colleges has been taken away and placed under a committee under the purview of the Higher Education Ministry… the MMC’s function has been reduced to a clerical role,” he added.


“Today, what safeguards do we have that these giant corporate colleges do not influence the decision-making process of the regulators with megabucks? We know that these regulatory bodies also employ senior people to be in their board… so when the approvals are given, would they be given fairly?”

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Added on June 22, 2012, 3:38 pmMMC spurns Najib’s ‘directive’
B Nantha Kumar
| June 22, 2012

The only reason the Malaysian Medical Council de-registered the Crimea State Medical University in 2005 was because majority of its Malaysian students were Indians.

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian Medical Council (MMC), it appears, has chosen to ignore Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak’s directive to reinstate Crimea State Medical University (CSMU) which is situated in Ukraine.

According to a set of documents forwarded to FMT by an insider from MMC, Najib had ‘penned’ his support for the reinstatement CSMU in 2010. The university was de-recognised by MMC in 2005.

Najib’s intervention followed Koperasi Pekida Malaysia Bhd (Perkida) letter to the premier on Dec 9, 2010 requesting that CSMU be re-instated.

Pekida raised its concern to support more than 300 Malay students studying at the university at that time and that the cost of acquiring a medical degree from CSMU was much cheaper compared to other countries and would benefit poor students dreaming to become doctors.

Following Perkida’s letter, PM’s private secretary Mohd Po’ad Jelani had on Dec 10, 2010 sent an official letter to MMC informing them of PM’s decision to reinstate CSMU.

Other Indian-based organisations too have asked the government to reinstate CSMU as most of the Malaysian students at the university are from the Indian community.

MMC however had ignored Najib’s ‘directive’ and has until now not taken any steps to reinstate CSMU.

“It is a crystal clear that MMC is practising a racist policy despite, Najib having taken a strong step to help the poor students, especially the Indians, have access to affordable quality educational opportunities abroad,” the insider said.

According to the insider, former Health Ministry director-general Dr Mohd Ismail Merican and MMC secretary Dr Wan Mazlan Mohd Woojdy had allegedly acted on their whims and fancies, at times even defying the prime minister’s directive.

Incriminating ‘racists’ evidence

When the university was de-recognised by MMC in 2005, the then MIC secretary-general S Sothinathan had raised the issue in parliament, calling the government’s decision as unfair to the Indian students.

As a result, the deputy health minister was suspended for three months from his government post for criticising the government’s the decision.

The then MIC president, S Samy Vellu also had slammed MMC and described it as a move to prevent more Indians from becoming doctors.

But MMC argued that the decision was made as some CSMU graduates in the government service had poor grasp of English.

Since then the public and ministers in both MIC and MCA have pleaded to the government to recognise the university.

“The people are in the dark over why MMC is adamant about not recognising the university,” the insider said.

The insider also pointed out that that Wan Mazlan had written to the CSMU administration asking for a detailed breakdown of the ethnicity of the Malaysian students.

“The letter is a solid proof that MMC is discriminating against the Indians. At the time of Wan Mazlan writing the letter, 1,000 of the 1,600 Malaysian students who had graduated from CSMU were Indian. And this is since 2001 when the university opened its door to Malaysians,” said the insider.

Why the insistence?

The insider also pointed out that Najib had sent MMC another letter in April this year asking for an update on developments with CSMU.

“As far as I know, until today there is no proper answer from MMC,” said the insider .

The insider said that there is no reason for MMC not to to reinstate CSMU.

“They (MMC) approved Lincoln University College (LUC) to run offshore programmes in three Ukrainian medical universities.

“What is the rational behind MMC’s stand on CSMU, when they can make u-turns on other universities? asked the insider.

Previously, in 2005 Dr Ismail Merican also announced that the government would not recognise medical programmes offered by 10 other universities in Ukraine.

FMT reported that MMC gave LUC the green light to run offshore medical programmes in three Ukrainian medical universities.

The catch was that the students have to pay an extra RM70,000 each to be exempted from sitting for Medical Qualification Exam (MQE) as all the three universities are not recognised by Public Service Department (PSD).

This post has been edited by cckkpr: Jun 22 2012, 03:38 PM

It looks like even MMC isn't free from the deep malaysian endemic.So much for the hippocratic oath they took

This post has been edited by Rotuham: Jun 23 2012, 07:29 PM

The mmc had actually proposed to de-recognise ALL foreign med schools, and have a common qualifying exam...how is this racial?.....this was turned down by the cabinet....

it is impossible for mmc to monitor all 300+ med schools all over the world for quality....and many are of low standards....

luc was approved AFTER ismail merican was removed as dg....and by the new dg WITHOUT the approval of the full council...............

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Added on June 23, 2012, 8:11 pmthis has nothing to do with healthcare of a patient.....

it is about the training of doctors, which is an academic matter in most places....but a predominantly political and business matter in msia......

because mmc does try to maintain quality, there is now a move to take the responsibility of approving med schools away from mmc, and place it with mqa under mohe.....where it will be completely out of the medical profession's control.....

you prefer that?....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 23 2012, 08:11 PM

That shouldn't distract from the issue that mmc practises double standards.If they want to be stringent then do it properly.

There's a fair of share of what you,limeuu would call low quality med schools in malaysia itself.MMC would do well to look into those which also includes public unis.