nope. there is one "obese" guy in DNS. he almost cannot do all the activities. but he stay until the end of the induction program. and he pass and got admitted into the program.

also, bear in mind. if you're not selected for the first intake, there might be also 2nd and 3rd intake. because, if some of the students quit during the induction program, they'll replace by calling other candidate.

my advise, do your best during the selection process.

Asking about seafarer,

Hi, Maybe you know me

1) I want to ask that people who wear spec cannot get this course in ALAM?
2) How about study half way and change to this seafarer field?

Thank you, reply asap

Reply From destroyer
hrmmm....

for the 1st question.

yes. you can enter alam if you wear spec. but make sure you choose marine engineering course. nautical studies need you to have almost perfect eyesight. almost same like pilot.

for the 2nd quest,

what course are you taking now. what make you interested to change to seafaring field?

I am from Aircraft Maintenance Engineering. Now my college does not comfirm my future with License Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (LAME). As finish my senior still get nothing from MAS. If all be contract staff, useless is a part, forward degree, everything start from zero, useless is a part, than I with my friends will change career field from Air to Sea right now this March intake. Wasted 1 years and 1 year in Polytechinic. If they start a program for us to forward our study to LWTR or TAME, than it can consider. But the point now is everything is in a maze. Still do not know what path to go after leaving the maze of this course DAM(Diploma Aircraft Maintenance).

With your engineering background perhaps Marine Engineering would seem more familiar to you.

well... it really depends on you. because it's up to your interest.

in ALAM, all student will be prepared for Class 4 Certificate of Competency. almost same like LAME license.

we have oral and written test to obtain the COC.

the written test is the diploma.
the oral will be conducted with MARDEP(marine department) after you finish.

so the program here is almost like LAME. just for the ship and not airplane.

i cannot give you final words since it might be a correct choice for you. and it might be wrong choice for you.

are you willing to go into sem 1 in ALAM? what is your age now?

but i don't think it is too late because in my batch, there are also people enter here by 21 years of ages. and as far as i know, ALAM graduate have not having any problem in securing job after grads since most are sponsored by shipping companies.

another thing need to be consider. lyf in ALAM is very2 different from politeknik. why don't you apply for marine engineering course in politeknik?

ask more in this thread if you need any more info or suggestion. so the others can also share the info.

Changing from air to sea also means you will have to sail around the world for months and months. This is why not many people are into seafaring.

yep!

very2 different lifestyle you'll be having. between living in land or sea.

in this case, i suggest you follow your passion. ask urself what you really want to be. i cannot give you final answer for this prob.

gudluk in making decision JohnMax. take ur time. ALAM intake is still far away. think carefully.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 4 2009, 10:45 PM

Going around is what I wanted cause is my one of my hobbies.

Im an advanturer, like to discover everyrthing by my self. Just matter is sailing or by air.

Choosing the air is the first but now it seem start faded away (need long long time to make my hobby a live). So sailing is good in money and also travelling the world. Same with Aviation, money is good by problems is alot.

I like engineering.

I have been attach to MAS since last year and now also in MAS OJT. I live aviation but the point is working as a jr.tech for my job is not what I want

If you like travelling, then i suggest you to be seafarer. because i don't think that LAME will be able to travel worldwide. but as seafarer, everyday also travel. this week here, next week there. hoho.

haha. i also considering myself to go into aviation industry before. but failed miat interview.

after Jr.tech, will you be able to climb to LAME?

Aviation and maritime industry both interest me. Do you know that the maritime industry actually generates more money than aviation. Meaning it's a bigger industry

o.O Ya must pass the interview.

Ya Can but is a matter of time factor. As A Jr.Tech of MAS staff, must wait for the LWTR course avalilable and to be selected. It take times...

If contract staff, sorry that chances is like 10 pages of Harry Potter Books... and to take our self, EASA part 66 CAT B got 11 papers, and each paper exam is import from UK and we have to pay our self 100%. And how about study meterials? Who will teach you? If went for courses money is a booming. You work and money is for study.... Is this what you want? Not 1 or 2 years, but is counted as 6 years above +++ depends OMG.

One more thing is when we start working, we tend to be lazy and stop learning. Did you agree??

We need extreme motivation to continue study when working. This will be the hardest time of all time. Overtime is a money earning point. But where is the time for learning?

Compare to METC (Malaysia Airlines Engineering Training Centre), for them all the syllabus is fix and toward directly to LWTR>LAME, and everything is FREE and for us all is vice versa.

Our syllabus is not fixed, and we must find the way to get license ourself. We need to search for the path by ourself. Cause my institution is still new. First batch just graduated. We are the white mouse, and when there is a program error, start changing....

So this is what I get if be Jr.Tech.

1) Work under MAS as staff Jr.Tech, coporation with formen and go for LWTR at MAS training school is free. After LWTR is LAME with Type Rating Courses.

2) Work under Mas as contract staff Jr.Tech, want to get course can need to pay(individual)...but depend on company want you or not. But chances are like 10 pages of Harry Potter Books...

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Added on February 4, 2009, 11:26 pmHehe My age this year is 20 years old. The last chance to register for this year, Next year will gone the chance. Cause I was born in January.

Im Taking time to consider, asking more opinion. And than I will decide. Im trying to finish my B747-400 systems gen.fam. this friday and start crack big head thinking.

This post has been edited by JohnMax: Feb 4 2009, 11:26 PM

haha. no comment about this. i think both job almost same amount of salary given. just that seafarer don't have to pay the income tax. and marine engineer have wider line to join after tired of sailing. we can work as a steam engineer, boiler engineer, pump engineer, welder, fitter, electric engineer. because u'll be learning and doing most of the job of the profession i've described above when you're working onboard ship. can also become manager. because chief eng and 2nd eng they engage more in ship management. if you perform well, company can even promoted you to management level. can join oil and gas.

working on shore means you've to pay ur meal, pay ur transport to work. hoho. onboard ship, all these are provided. meaning for your salary, you'll be earning full. no cut here, cut there(ooops! forget that got EPF cut). all ur salary is in ur total control.


hoho. yep! we'll be lazy to study after working.

up to you. If you want to be in maritime industries, then you're welcome. Coz i'll be happy to see more young generation of malaysian in this field.

think carefully! later on decide. but if you want to enter alam, make sure you're not more than 21 years in ages.

Ask more if you've any more doubt towards this career. I'll be happy to assist you.

dun worry, if you miss the chance for ALAM, you can opt for Politeknik Ungku Omar. they also got marine engineering. their program is catered for sea-going marine engineering officer like alam. the differences between PUO and ALAM is that PUO take 3 and 1/2 years while in ALAM only 3 years. it is worldwide recognised like ALAM too.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 4 2009, 11:43 PM

So the next intake is around March 2009? After SPM release in between 1 week?

nope! the form only will be released after SPM results are released. If i'm not mistaken, the application closed on 31st march last year. interview & written test(will be conducted on the same day. some interview 1st, then written test) around mid Apr-May.

first intake should be around Jun-July. hoho. I manage to study in matric for one month and rest for 2 weeks before entering ALAM.

thanks for ur explanations

can u emphasize the contains of interview and written test ?? if u still remember lar...

like what the tester usually ask during the interview, what subjects are mainly ask in the question papers ...
because now I really no idea how to start doing preparation ..

thank you again ...this career seems interesting for me

i think ALAM is part of petronas, right? same as MISC.. is it?

destroyer, u know a lecturer name hanim zainal there? what subject she teach eh?

for the interview,

1st: Introduce yourself.
2nd: why you choose this career.
3rd: Who introduced/wanted you to be in this career.
4th: Who is MISC top people.
5th: how many vessel MISC have?(can be any question regarding MISC ship)
6th: Are you willing to sail for months and leaving ur family.
7th: what will you contribute towards this industry.
8th: what do you expect in 10 years to come?

and other basic question. hoho! that is what I can remember. hoho. i'll post more later on if I remember.


for the written test, i covers 3 subjects you learn during spm. 20 question for each subject. together, there is 60 question total. need to answer in one hour if i'm not mistaken. all objective. make sure you bring along calculator and stationaries.

English, Physic, Math(with AddMath).

It is random topic for each subject. so just study all. but not too deep since just basic or introductory question for topic selected for each subject.

hoho. this is what i can remember by now.

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Added on February 5, 2009, 12:38 amALAM is owned by MISC which is a subsidiary of Petronas.

hrmmm.... don't know any lecturer by that name. maybe she's in main campus(DNS).

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 5 2009, 12:38 AM

I can say that this is the most better career because it have scholarship for those who needed, and the money is also a nice firgures.
But the only thing is offshore.

haha. we only get rm200 allowance every month.

but that rm200 is for ur spending/enjoy. since food are provided. once a week get to eat western. meal also quite nice. the quality have improved.

It would be bad if you look offshore on the negative side.

If you look on the bright side, it'll be ok. Imagine, no need to pay for ur meal. going to work no jam, no transport needed thus no money spent on fuel when working onboard ship. when not working can do anything you want. peaceful environment if u don't cause any prob. air-conditioned accommodation(one room for one person for officer). cheap cigarette(no tax for cigarette. around rm3 for marlboro 20's) but encourage you not to smoke. live a healthy lyf.

in ship, at the galley(dining hall) the place one fridge. inside the fridge, there are many ice-cream(mostly cornetto for malaysian ship). you can eat as much as you want. one of my senior said he have no craving for ice-cream for 1 month after coming back from shipboard training. hoho!

many more. haha!

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Added on February 5, 2009, 3:10 amAdded. min salary(inclusive allowance) for malaysian crew by some shipping company. PM me for company name. get in USD, then spend in malaysia. haha! this figure is for FPSO. no income tax!
2month on/2month off


*harap boleh bagi bayangan kepada yang masih tertanya-tanya.



my advice, don't choose this career because of the $$. this is just for motivation towards aspiring seafarer. if you choose this career because of money, later on you'll regret it coz this thing involved the changing of ur lifestyle.

but, money also might be the factor you choose this career. rather than being jobless and the commit crime such as robbery. better become seafarer la. duit halal. legal money.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 5 2009, 03:52 AM

destroyer, can you tell me the module you study?
Semester 1 until last semester. And what facility. What you do doring weekend?

ok. right now i can only tell you the subject i learned for 1st sem. since i cannot remember the subject i'm going to learn in sem 2 and afterwards.

sem 1 subjects.

Applied Mechanic (3credit hour)
Electrotechnology (3credit hour)
Mathematics (3credit hour)
Thermodynamics (3credit hour)
English (2credit hour)
Engineering Material (1credit hour)
Engineering Workshop Practice (1credit hour)
Laboratory (1credit hour)
Workshop (6credit hour)

for workshop, in one sem, you'll learn 2 workshop skill. either combination of welding+maintenance or bench-fitting+lathe machine. sem 2 also got workshop. and you'll learn the other combo. hoho!


This is the timeline for ur study.

Sem 1 and Sem 2: in ALAM campus.

Sem 3 and Sem 4: practical onboard ship(9-11 month)

Sem 5 and Sem 6: in ALAM campus



Facilities(for terengganu campus).

1) Accommodation until finish study. Students are required to stay inside the hostel. stay in dorm. largest room can occupy 36 person. smallest only 12 person.

2) Galley(dining hall). food provided. 4 times a day(breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper)

3) Workshop(4 of them). for maintenance and bench fitting we'll use our own facilities. for welding and lathe machine, we'll use INSTEP facilities. out own workshop are still under construction.

4) Air-conditioned classroom.

5) we share library with INSTEP. we have our own books, just that we don't have the building yet. can online in library or go to cyber cafe near our accommodation. rm2 per hour.

6) sport facilities. football, basketball, volleyball, badminton.


Activities.

Daily routines(weekdays)

0530: waky-waky, Subuh prayer.
0600: Physical Training
0630-0730: breakfast, prepare urself.
0730-0800: colors(morning assembly)
0800-1000: class
1000-1030: break
1030-1230: class
1230-1400: lunch break+zohor prayer
1400-1600: class
1600-1700: class end+break+asar prayer
1700-1800: sports(you can play anything you want.
1830-2000: Dinner+maghrib prayer
2000-2200: prep
2200-2230: supper
2230-2245: roll call or room inspection
2300:pipe down.

weekends

free activity. sometime warden ask to do gotong-royong.


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my suggestion, if want better facilities, better go to Politeknik Ungku Omar. they have better teaching facilities. but the problem is, if you're unable to secure a scholarship, it'll be costly to attend ur modular courses. and their course is 3 1/2 years while in ALAM 3 years. but if you want better lyf better go poli. hoho. save money, go ALAM.