Is there any chance for me to work onshore if i take Nautical Studies. or is it compulsory to work on ship.

I mean terus work onshore. No need to sail at all.

This post has been edited by HiddenTrap: Feb 5 2009, 09:30 PM

yep. you can be port superitendant or manager.

other than that, you can also join tug boat or become strait/harbour pilot. only sail for few hours and not for days. hoho.

About RM150 to get it done. RM100+ for the medical checkup at approved clinics, then RM50 for passport sized photographs and post order for the application forms at the Marine department.

I got mine in just half a day. Morning go for medical checkup, then get the doctor's letter, go to Marine department and submit everything. Two hours later I got my seaman card and log book.

hoho!

welcome to the thread!

which department? engine or deck?

I'm not really a seafarer. I just happened to work on an offshore survey vessel. I got it just for fun. It's interesting to have the captains' stamps and signatures from the vessels I've been onboard, and also to keep track of the days I've been offshore.

Didn't expect to get it so easily. By the way, Malaysian seaman book is pretty much useless. I heard a lot of people go for seaman book from Belize and Panama. Less questions from immigration when going into Europe.

hrmmm...

don't know about that. since i'm only familiar with malaysian vessel.

hoho. nice job you have there. what is your opinion regarding seaman life?

The longest duration I've been onboard a ship is two months. It was interesting at first as I get to meet new people. But things become quite boring after that. Everytime I sign on, the only thing I look forward to is the next shore leave.

I've met people who like sailing. Life is much simpler for them on board. They get loads of money after signing off. Of course, I did met a few who are trying to find new opportunities onshore because they are sick with sailing.

Yep!

you're true about that. not many want to sail as they get older.

that's why we have many job opportunities in this industry. because the average retirement age for seafarer is around 30-40. once the senior step down, more opening will be available.

there also many career opportunities on shore for seafarer once they're tired of sailing.

something from google. http://www.itfseafarers.org/index.cfm

your topic caught my eye, and took a bit of effort to look things up. the high pay is supposedly for the long hours and fatique or stress on board the ship for months.

yep!

our lifestyle is very different from normal people.

during the first two or three month of sailing, you're still happy. after that, you'll be thinking about home.

moreover, during storm. the ship will roll and pitch. seasick. sometime, during storm, you'll be thinking that you'll never go sailing again. but after a while on shore, you'll be thinking to sail again. hoho.

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Added on February 7, 2009, 7:25 am1st post edited. past year oral question added. fell free to check!

*NOWADAYS, THERE ARE ALSO COMPANY SEEKING FOR MECHANICAL/MARINE ENGINEERING DEGREE GRADUATE TO DO THEIR CADETSHIP FOR 6 MONTH ONBOARD THEIR SHIP. AFTER COLLECTING SEATIME, YOU CAN TAKE THE ORAL TEST FROM MARDEP FOR CLASS 4 COC. THAT MEAN, IF YOU GRADUATE FOR EXAMPLE FROM UTM ALSO CAN GO ONBOARD SHIP. I'LL TRY TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THIS. WILL ASK FROM MY SENIOR FOR FURTHER DETAILS. I'LL UPDATE IT LATER ON.

DURING CADET, THIS COMPANY THAT I'VE KNOWN WILL PAY USD 650. AFTER GOT CLASS 4 COC, SALARY USD3450. WORK ONBOARD FPSO. 2MONTH ON/2MONTH OFF. DURING OFF, NO PAY.

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Added on February 7, 2009, 8:02 pmDefinition of Marine Engineer

Marine engineers are the members of a ship's crew that operate and maintain the propulsion and other systems on board the vessel. Marine Engineering staff also deal with the "Hotel" facilities on board, notably the sewage, lighting, air conditioning and water systems. They deal with bulk fuel transfers, and require training in firefighting and first aid, as well as in dealing with the ship's boats and other nautical tasks- especially with cargo loading/discharging gear and safety systems, though the specific cargo discharge function remains the responsibility of deck officers and deck workers.

Sometimes, they are involved in the design and construction of these complicated systems. New design is mostly included within the naval architecture or ship design. The field is closely related to mechanical engineering, although the modern engineer requires knowledge (and hands on experience) with electrical, electronic, pneumatic, hydraulic, chemistry, control engineering, naval architecture, process engineering, gas turbines and even nuclear technology on certain military vessels.


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Past year question for oral test. COC class 4.



This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 8 2009, 04:39 AM

Destroyer... after I read this thread I saw that you were a matrics student before joining ALAM... do you have to pay any denda?

denda?

nope. if you quit matric before receiving any allowances given by them, you don't have to pay back. if you already receive, you'll have to pay what you've receive back to them.

hey destroyer which batch are u? dme? ec?

just noticed this thread xD

i was just graduated from alam last year. taking nautical studies.

for sure misc sponsored.

i quit matrix oso last time. have to pay back rm 1k, their allowance i mean. i was being there for 2 weeks only.

im 22 this year, and earning 3250 monthly basis. up to 7k with total allowances.

hope that figures can attract more students to join us ;p

fyi, most of my frens same age as me are still struggling to complete their studies with no jobs confirmation.

welcome to the thread!

another seafarer here. anybody want to ask about nautical studies can ask linuskate coz he's more expert than me.

i'm DME 25. laz year intake. I'm AET sponsored. there is no longer ec batch coz they've change 3 1/2 years prog to 3 years.

yep! luckily maritime industries are not affected much by the recession. at this time. hope it will last.

I've been introduce these sea-going career to many people as possible. because i'll be happy to see more Malaysian seafarers. we are lacking of seafarer in malaysia and worldwide.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 12:52 AM

ho so ure a newbie. not much diff between aet and misc nowadays.

good luck with ur life at college now xD

strive for lng vessel. welcome onboard. =)

haha.

too bad aet no LNG. heard that life onboard LNG is much more happier. clean ship!

i'll be dealing with the baddest oil.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 01:21 AM

Destroyer, I think I can't be your junior in seafarer, will stick back to where I belong now.

When I need someone to help there is. And he help me alot.

Aviation field to get license by own is hard especially EASA CAT B1&2. But I have people helping and motivating. I would like to continue.

As your salary is high enough, at the age like your senior linuxskate 22, 7K + -. I need that firgure I have to work hard now and minimum 25 years old only have 8K + -......

As you said, every jobs have it pros and cons.

@destroyer, nice to see that you are helping others here.

My younger bro is sponsored by AET and is studying in ALAM. Just came back from sailing few months back in Mediterranean Sea and Gulf of Mexico. Will grad this year

Have fun studying!

haha. no problemo. send my regards to your brother.

Actually, i've promised myself. that i'll introduced this seafaring career. because, when i was asked to go for interview and written test, i have no ideas about it. I search the net and find very little info about this career in Malaysia and how to prepare for ALAM interview and written test.

moreover, i know there are many people out there that have the same vision as me. that is to end study early and earn big $ early. so can help famly and sibling. i'm willing to sacrifice my younger years and life just for this.

seaman lyf is not as hard and boring as everybody think actually. all your hardwork is paid when you go to bank, insert ur atm card, enter ur pin, and smile. hoho.

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Added on February 9, 2009, 2:35 pmIt's good then cause you've been back on your track. good luck for you! later on can find someone to help me get into avation field. haha.


This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 02:35 PM

No problems on this. Aviation always welcome to you. No age limit. (only you need to be able to read and write in english)

This post has been edited by JohnMax: Feb 9 2009, 02:42 PM