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 Begin Your Career As A SEAFARER, Marine Engineering, Nautical Studies,etc

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HiddenTrap
post Feb 1 2009, 11:52 PM

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4 month off/on is nice. And only 8 hours a day. I guess the higher your rank the easier the job.

I wish I can live on a ship for some time to experience seafaring life. But where got ah. Maybe can volunteer on a ship unsure.gif

My friends discourage me to work on ship. Saying it's no life doh.gif . Maybe family also won't allow. ..so yea..

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post Feb 2 2009, 12:38 AM

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yup. job might be easier. but heavier responsibilities.

hard to get onboard merchant ship as passenger nowadays. because of strict company policy.

haha. at first my mom also discourage me to enter this course. but i manage to "pujuk" her. then she calm down. and she said it's my choice. i tell her. this might be my only chance to get scholarship. i'm not doing well with my academic. so might not get this chance anymore. moreover, i always wanted a job that promise me big bucks so can help ma family.

i also wanted to attract many young generation into this industry because we have many shipping companies in malaysia. but most of the men working onboard are foreigner. this is a opportunities for malaysian.

another factor that cause lack of malaysian in the maritime industry is because lack of exposure given to us. i never know anything about alam until i finish my spm. that is when i come across my senior friendster profile. i saw his college. so i ask his phone num and call him to ask more about it. after getting much info. i receive my spm result around march. while reading newspaper, i saw alam advertisement. so i apply for it. hoho.
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post Feb 2 2009, 03:51 AM

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destroyer....should i take seamen license b4 i apply to be sea farer coz seemly all the cmpany either i have the license or not...anyway u r deck or engine stdent n what bacth r u....23 or 25.....just wanna know.....actually my friend r stdying at alam too....


Added on February 2, 2009, 3:53 am*ask

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post Feb 2 2009, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(EquinoX @ Jan 31 2009, 01:03 AM)
I rejected ALAM offer last time but now think it back like jus wasted. Haha, since recession in msia, if u grad as seafarer sure no problems. Cause u don need find the job but they already give u the job with a good benefits.

Anyway,
To be successful for sponsored, i have few opinions here.
*Make sure u have a medical fits(Which no sickness o illness) if not harder u get in.
*Is an advantage if u dont have any vision problems(Colour o vision blind) which mean perfect eyesight is preferable.
*I think geography and race is one another factor which u cant ask they why. I think u will know what this mean.
*And lastly, make sure u take this line as ur future, if not dont do it, once u break the contact, i think u will stay just like hell, u need pay back much more than they amount they spent on u.
* And if u not the one tough and rough, which maybe u easy get sick and bored with a job, better don try ~

That my advise ^^ Good luck to all~
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pardon me...I just want to be realism towards this matter ...

racism is what I anticipate,

but how is the chance of non-malay being selected compares to malay during interview ??
in other words, how high the chance of a chinese like me being selected to be sponsored??

how the real life environment ?? is there any racism or overbearing of seniors towards juniors inside the institution ??
I want to make sure I won't stick in racism environment for decades ...

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regarding the application form,

-Identity card
-school leaving cert
-examination cert
-co-cu cert

and I need to send ..

-examination cert: SPM result alone or along with form4/5 examinations results or both??

-co-cu cert: all co-cu certs I got or the general co-cu cert(Sjil Penilaian ku-ko) by our own school ??

thanks smile.gif

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post Feb 2 2009, 07:15 PM

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Suddenly I feel like going onboard.. sounds like an exciting life, ships. If I could work on cruise ships or RO/RO or RO/LO vessels.. naiss..
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post Feb 2 2009, 07:55 PM

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ya the life does sound exciting. The pay also sounds exciting. But there must be a reason why they pay you so much.

http://www.midwaysailor.com/military/shiplife.html laugh.gif

Btw I don't even know how to swim. Better learn swimming first in case you fall in the Atlantic ocean.

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post Feb 2 2009, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(kimm @ Feb 2 2009, 03:51 AM)
destroyer....should  i take seamen license b4 i apply to be sea farer coz seemly all the cmpany either i have the license or not...anyway u r deck or engine stdent n what bacth r u....23 or 25.....just wanna know.....actually my friend r stdying at alam too....


Added on February 2, 2009, 3:53 am*ask
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no need. once you're admitted into alam, all of necessary item such as international passport and seaman card will be handled by them. company will pay for you. no need to use ur own money.


QUOTE(Marsiano @ Feb 2 2009, 04:16 PM)
pardon me...I just want to be realism towards this matter ...

racism is what I anticipate,

but how is the chance of non-malay being selected compares to malay during interview ??
in other words, how high the chance of a chinese like me being selected to be sponsored??

how the real life environment ?? is  there any  racism or overbearing of seniors towards juniors inside the institution  ??
I want to make sure I won't  stick in racism environment  for decades ...

-----------
regarding the application form,

-Identity card
-school leaving cert
-examination cert
-co-cu cert

and I need to send ..

-examination cert: SPM result alone or along with form4/5 examinations results  or both??

-co-cu cert: all co-cu certs I got or the general co-cu cert(Sjil Penilaian ku-ko) by  our own school ??

thanks  smile.gif
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actually. in ALAM, i'm not sure about racism in alam lyf. coz in my batch, no racism is going on.

but it is a lie if I said there is no racism. there is. but not malay fight chinese or indian.

it's a racism against foreigner. those coming from outside malaysia. because, they the one who caused problem. and the whole batch will get the punishment for the prob they caused.

but it'll be reduced once they can cope with our tradition. coz they're not used to it. and we'll also cope with them.

among malaysian, there is no racism going on as far as i know.


QUOTE(latias93 @ Feb 2 2009, 07:15 PM)
Suddenly I feel like going onboard.. sounds like an exciting life, ships. If I could work on cruise ships or RO/RO or RO/LO vessels.. naiss..
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yep! lyf onboard cruise is much more comfortable. but more tiring as more thing need to be maintained. but i think i'll opt to cruise if i've given a chance. everyday live in hotel.


QUOTE(HiddenTrap @ Feb 2 2009, 07:55 PM)
ya the life does sound exciting. The pay also sounds exciting. But there must be a reason why they pay you so much.

http://www.midwaysailor.com/military/shiplife.html  laugh.gif

Btw I don't even know how to swim. Better learn swimming first in case you fall in the Atlantic ocean.
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hoho. dun worry. because onboard merchant ship(i'll use oil tanker as an example). il tanker is one of the biggest ship in the ocean. guess what. the crew onboard normally only 27 people in the whole ship. haha.

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so what does these people on ship do everyday? do mapping/routing? do maintenance? flyfishing? they'll be working everyday as long as their sailing right?

the only seafarer's life i know is what i see in pirate movies.. man the steering, man the canon, pull sails, do the sextant thing, man the bird nest with telescopic monocular... LAND AHOY! tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Lestat @ Feb 2 2009, 08:40 PM)
so what does these people on ship do everyday? do mapping/routing? do maintenance? flyfishing? they'll be working everyday as long as their sailing right?

the only seafarer's life i know is what i see in pirate movies.. man the steering, man the canon, pull sails, do the sextant thing,  man the bird nest with telescopic monocular... LAND AHOY!  tongue.gif
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for the deck side, they'll drive/navigate the ship.

for the engine side, we will monitor the engine room and carry out maintenance if anything go wrong.

when not in working tym, either sleep, playing snooker, online, swimming, karaoke, watching tv(or dvd), playing computer games, fishing and many more that you can think of. haha.

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actually im diploma stdent in electric engineering..but then all the cmpany that i apply eto(electric n technical officer) ask about the seaman license.....so how????....plz help me.....
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QUOTE(kimm @ Feb 2 2009, 08:49 PM)
actually im diploma stdent in electric engineering..but then all the cmpany that i apply eto(electric n technical officer) ask about the seaman license.....so how????....plz help me.....
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ask them. whether the seaman license they ask is COC or seaman card.

for the seaman card & discharge book, you can do it at the Marine Department.

but i think it is a seaman card. better give the company a call again and ask about it.
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post Feb 2 2009, 09:08 PM

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which cmpny should i apply to gain my interest to be seafarer...seemly all the cmpny already have their own sponsor students.....
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post Feb 2 2009, 09:19 PM

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errr...

right now, there is no company sponsoring for electrical officer.

you can try MISC, GMV, Bumi Armada, AET, Alam Maritim, Tanker Pasific n many more.

call them and ask if there is any vacancy for Electrical Officer.

if they have, ask for the requirement.

btw, here is the document you needed if you want to work onboard/sailing on merchant ship as worker..

Required:

Seaman Card and Discharge Book: can get from Malaysia Marine Department.

International Passport : Immigration

Modular certs : from institution providing these course. for example ALAM.
ask the company whether they can sponsor you for this courses. since it is very expensive.


Added on February 2, 2009, 11:55 pmbtw, i think i forgot to mention that you don't have to pay income tax.

haha.

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post Feb 3 2009, 02:30 AM

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how much the fee to get seaman card and discharge book
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Feb 2 2009, 08:47 PM)
for the deck side, they'll drive/navigate the ship.

for the engine side, we will monitor the engine room and carry out maintenance if anything go wrong.

when not in working tym, either sleep, playing snooker, online, swimming, karaoke, watching tv(or dvd), playing computer games, fishing and many more that you can think of. haha.
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woah, never thought seafarer could ever be able to enjoy such entainment drool.gif im so gonna join now rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(silverchain @ Feb 3 2009, 03:04 AM)
woah, never thought seafarer could ever be able to enjoy such entainment drool.gif im so gonna join now rclxms.gif
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Mmm ya they are able to enjoy such entertainment in their free time. Everyday they work for 12 hours, sleep and enjoy for remaining hours.
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QUOTE(kimm @ Feb 3 2009, 02:30 AM)
how much the fee to get seaman card and discharge book
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I'm not sure. since all are being handled by ALAM. mybe you can give marine department(mardep) a call and ask about it. i think less than rm200.



QUOTE(silverchain @ Feb 3 2009, 03:04 AM)
woah, never thought seafarer could ever be able to enjoy such entainment drool.gif im so gonna join now rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(HiddenTrap @ Feb 3 2009, 08:13 AM)
Mmm ya they are able to enjoy such entertainment in their free time. Everyday they work for 12 hours, sleep and enjoy for remaining hours.
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yep! that's why some people escape to this career to relax. we have different life than shore based work. even more relaxing. just work then relax. food also provided. some ship organize party on weekend. depends on captain. if you're going on oil tanker, you can also play futsal.

salary is tax free. hoho. njoy the full power of your salary once you're on shore. haha.

but my advise, better save a little bit of money. for future investment.


Added on February 4, 2009, 4:39 amopppsss!

seem i missed some of marsiano question.

ok. the selection process is equal in number. just for the felda/jpa might be more malay.

sponsorship from companies such as misc and aet carries equal number.

but you might find out that you'll see more malay and indian. and less chinese. this is because, not many chinese apply for it. it is true. during interview process, i can only see 3-5 chinese among 50 other candidate.

but no worry. during the induction program, you'll get to see how these 3 major races get along together like we're family. the hardship we face make us realise that we should work together no matter what race.

they train us from here because later on when working onboard ship, you'll be working with people from other country, races, and religion.

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post Feb 4 2009, 09:10 AM

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ya seaferers will work in an international environment. I watched a vid on Youtube about seafarers. They came from everywhere from Philippines to India to Ukraine to Mexico all in one ship.

During induction program what do you have to do?
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QUOTE(HiddenTrap @ Feb 4 2009, 09:10 AM)
ya seaferers will work in an international environment. I watched a vid on Youtube about seafarers. They came from everywhere from Philippines to India to Ukraine to Mexico all in one ship.

During induction program what do you have to do?
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more like body and mental torturing. it bring your body to the limit. those who cannot withstand it will quit. they don't remove who cannot perform the activities. but the pain will make you quit yourself. hoho. one week of hell.

during the induction, it's not the physical that determine you're strong or not. it's ur mental.
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hmm, sounds scary. Im curious too wat do we have to do. If my mental is strong but not physical. Maybe like i cant do well some of the activities? They will not sack me?

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