aviation is cool oso dude, with lotsa of stewardess. and their studies is damn easy. the syllabus just more or less like us. and working as a pilot is oso easy mannn, i have lotsa friends all of them said that. everything is controlled by the control tower. they just have to take off and landing. but they are carrying live stock. hehe.

but from what i heard around, aviation and marine cant make big bucksss as long as u are working with malaysian company. but what to do, they feed us with good training.

Study now for me is not easy hehe cause still fresh.

Stewardess,.... some ok some OMG>(dont want to think also)

Really Pilot earn more than engineer but is like marine will not always stay at home. engineer always at home, pilot 14days out. Marine 6 months.....

Ya, that is real. Like people who hire from other country in Mas RM60~Rm150/hour. Is that little or many? Just work 8/hrs per day with Rm60/hours for 20 days a month=RM9600....

hurm so u are now a cadet pilot? u are under mas or what? how much a fresh grad can earn? u graduated as first officer eh? i dunno how their ranks. hehe.

yea in marine we earn more than marine engineer. but no big different.

how much ur 4 stripes eg captain can earn a month?

yep! just that, pilot have more chances of travelling. actually, if you notice, different ranks have different sea-going time. it is because that they want us to collect seatime to undergo next level of COC.

if you notice, you can see that actually LAME bring more bucks than mariner. but, as you can see, they've to pay for income tax, transportation to work, meal. etc...

but if you work in Dubai, bigger bucks and no income tax.

hoho. right now, money is my 2nd concern as i'm still studying. but for linuxskate, haha! he's already earning it.


btw linuxskate, have you ever heard anything about dynamic positioning officer. heard that ALAM melaka are currently conducting these course. i also heard that for senior dynamic positioning officer, they can earn up to rm 45k per month without income tax working in malaysian companies.

if you happen to know these course, wanna ask. is there any same course dynamic positioning officer for marine engineer?

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 04:43 PM

Nono, im just a trainee in engineering. Under Poly OJT under mas. Pilot not sure cause 100% more than engineer. No pilot friend currently so cno story to tell.

4 stripes is captain, 3 stripes is FO. 1 Bar is trainee( cadet pilot). In mas i saw alot pilot including other country such as ANA(All Nippon Airlines). But no friends yet. And learn Radio under a B747 retired captain, but still did not talk about pilot. hehe

Yeah people who in India from mas $$$ is good. But mostly come back say no good. nice with 45k permonth. USD or RMY?

RMY of coz. not much. i think LAME earn more than that.

oh ok ok for all that info. i thought u are a cadet pilot. sorry dude. hehe. i have some frens also from MIAT.

yeah destroyer, heard that oso for dynamic position. basically they are learning how to stabilize the oil platforms etc at sea. yes they are making big bucks. im not sure whether they open for marine engineer or not. most of the ppl taking that course is self sponsored. about a few person only for every course. have no idea actually. just paying attention to get my 1st class first and finished the contract xD

haha!

just thought that there is position like that for engineer. maybe can have dynamic positioning engineer. haha.

hoho. you're in the 10 years contract or 5 years after Class 1/captain?

wanna ask, if we take nautical studies. What do we learned from that course? is it like how to predict whether..read the map..temperature..altitude and etc2?
How bout mechanical engineering? study abt electronics and electromagnetism like in form5?..
been thinking and wondering..wnted to choose the best for me XD i like calculations btw if it matter..

yep! if i'm not mistaken, nautical will learn about stuff that you've mention and maritime law. they have math if i'm not mistaken. but just basic math. they also learn about cargo handling. how to load cargo. how to unload. the procedure. the part that i don't like that prevent me from taking nautical is the maritime law. haha. only to learn that in engineering also need to study some of the laws.

for engineering, yes electronics and electromagnetism we will learn in electrotechnology. but juz basic stuff. for math, almost the same as add math and mod math you've learn in form 5. just a bit harder. we also learn thermodynamics. and we learn applied mechanics. which is something like advance version of physic you've learn in form 5.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 06:57 PM

Like after I have my license, I cound not join seafarer anymore? Cause the age problems???

woot! looks like marine engineering wud be my best choice gotta prepared hard frm now

errrr... i dunno about that. still can be seafarer. but not marine engineer. maybe if you got welder professional certs, you can be welder. not very much compared to marine engineer. and normally, company have age limit for those who wanted to go onboard ship. due to fitness reason.

haha. my advice, think about it very carefully once you've passed the selection process. coz this will be ur career. you have to sail for a long tym(unless you want to pay money due to breach of contract).

like me, sometime i'm happy with my decision. sometime i think i've made a wrong decision. haha.

don't think only stupid people go to work onboard ship. in my batch, there is 12 A's student. 9 A's student.

hehe u want to work with the machines or u want to navigate a ship? our ships are about 300 metres long average. hehe. navigating is much more easier, but u have to take a lot of responsibilities.

u can still sail no matter how old are you. no such things as retirement in our jobs prospect. as long as u are fit, there u go. but if u want to start fresh n follow their sponsorship program, there are certain age requirements.

if u still insist, i recommend u to find other shipping company to get u sponsored.

try to apply for politeknik ungku omar if you're above the age limit. coz they accept until 28.

is there temporary kind of jobs available in this area? like a few days/weeks in sea, moderate pay, low qualifications (in term of less paper work/requirement just to be on ship). plan to introduce my lil bro to give a try. seaman book seems easy to get, what a seaman book holder can do?

i think there no temporary jobs. because before sail u have to complete urself with much much requirements. to make urself competence. unless u want to go onboard cruise ship as passenger. =)

not only seaman book. but you also need international passport, modular courses certs(this is the expensive one).

seaman book just to show as evidence when you want to seat for higher level of COC classes and test. as a proof that you've enough seatime.

ok, thx destroyer, linuxskate.
passport, of course, unavoidable.. about modular course, which place carry it out? ALAM? what is the rough estimate cost / number of modules enough to enable one to be on ship?

plan to get rid of my bro and ask to pay my money back later

my advice, better search for job before doing all this stuff. coz it'll be expensive and will be waste in case your brother cannot find the job.

may i suggest tanker pacific for u to search job for ur bro. they have their website and online job application.

yep. can do it in ALAM. around 2 weeks for basic and another 2 weeks for advance.

basic around 3k.
advance i'm not sure about this.

what is qualification/academic achievement/certs that ur brother holding? and what is his ages?