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 Begin Your Career As A SEAFARER, Marine Engineering, Nautical Studies,etc

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hakunamatata
post Feb 10 2009, 12:01 AM

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hi, may i ask if i finished the diploma programme and search for cadetship to do OJT and will be hired as fresh grad with 4-5k salary?

Approximately how long does it takes to finish the course and become a seafarer?


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post Feb 10 2009, 12:04 AM

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yeah sure best way is to start after spm. usually they will open their sponsorship program in the paper. they will sponsor whole 3 years diploma program and u work with them straight away.
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Feb 10 2009, 12:01 AM)
hi, may i ask if i finished the diploma programme and search for cadetship to do OJT and will be hired as fresh grad with 4-5k salary?

Approximately how long does it takes to finish the course and become a seafarer?
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if you enter alam, you're high probability you're sponsored by shipping companies. in fact, 90% are sponsored by companies. the other 10% is sponsored by felda and JPA. for petronas sponsored, they'll be working with MISC.

for cadetship. only little pay. if i'm not mistaken. rm680 for MISC and usd200 for AET.

yep! not 4-5k. coz linuxskate juz come back from his 1st voyage. it is around rm7k
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:20 AM

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wow.. the salary is much higher compare to LAE..Approximately how long does it takes to finish the course and become a seafarer? Any other university proviede this courses beside ALAM?

Most student in ALAM is malay right? so as seafarer?


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post Feb 10 2009, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Feb 10 2009, 12:11 AM)
if you enter alam, you're high probability you're sponsored by shipping companies. in fact, 90% are sponsored by companies. the other 10% is sponsored by felda and JPA. for petronas sponsored, they'll be working with MISC.

for cadetship. only little pay. if i'm not mistaken. rm680 for MISC and usd200 for AET.

yep! not 4-5k. coz linuxskate juz come back from his 1st voyage. it is around rm7k
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during my time cadetship only earn 450 myr per month. blush.gif

actually basic pay for fresh grad is 3250. + allowances around 6.7. its for 6 month probation period. (junior 3rd officer)

after 6 months ( promoted to 3rd officer) the basic is 3900. plus allowances i dunno.

another 6 months to one year ++, if got promoted to 2nd officer, earn > 5 digits oready.


Added on February 10, 2009, 12:28 am
QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Feb 10 2009, 12:20 AM)
wow.. the salary is much higher compare to LAE..Approximately how long does it takes to finish the course and become a seafarer? Any other university proviede this courses beside ALAM?

Most student in ALAM is malay right? so as seafarer?
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malay + chinese + indian + sikh

normally those with mariners background. because we malaysian doesnt exposed well with this job.

most want to further into uni. for me, im so grateful for not going into local uni. i think i made the right choice.

at alam oso got some foreigners. i mean lots of them. sad.gif arabiannnnn, indiannnn..

as alam now are becoming a world class maritime academy. all are up to dates i can say. from classroom to their simulators.

onboard ship u can work with british ppl, some japanese, filipinos.

u can take it 3 years to complete the courses.

This post has been edited by linuxskate: Feb 10 2009, 12:28 AM
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Feb 10 2009, 12:20 AM)
wow.. the salary is much higher compare to LAE..Approximately how long does it takes to finish the course and become a seafarer? Any other university proviede this courses beside ALAM?

Most student in ALAM is malay right? so as seafarer?
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nope! LAE is higher provided that they work outside malaysia. for starting, they're higher than us. but they start working later than us. if you enter alam

by the age of 18, you'll work by the age of 22, at that time you've already earn rm7k per month. when you're 25(age when normally LAE start

working), provided you past all the test and promoted, you'll earn rm13-15k per month. but remember this. you don't have to pay income tax for being

seafarer. during working, meal provided, no need transportation to go to work. thus, we save more money.


in ALAM, we have balance number of student here. majority is malays and indians. chinese not mush since not many of them apply for this course. but

for seafarer, most were foreigner. we hae small number of malaysian seafarer.

3 years is needed to finish diploma. after grad, company give around 2-3 month of rest before you start working.

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post Feb 10 2009, 12:33 AM

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We need good eyesight (without optical aid) to become a seafarer?
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Feb 10 2009, 12:33 AM)
We need good eyesight (without optical aid) to become a seafarer?
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that is for deck side(nautical). for engine side(engineering), can wear spectacles.
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:59 AM

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hmm.. this career is quite interesting for a spm leaver.. currently considering diploma in aircraft engineering tongue.gif want to be pilot but gt short sightened sad.gif but this career is quite interesting too .. will put into consideration.. smile.gif

The cons are staying away from home and family (cadet 1 trip 12mth doh.gif ) and will be boring at ship .. Pros is no need collect OJT, work sche,log,type rating etc straigth can start ur career after diploma rclxms.gif

Thanks(destroyer and linux) for the above replies and answers, wish you all the best in ur career biggrin.gif

Cheers
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:14 AM

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hoho.

thanks for the wishes. i'm still student while linux already working. he's just come back from 1st voyage. probably enjoying his salary.

i'll try to bring more seafarer to contribute to this thread. we already have deck officer in this thread. i'll try to look for engine officer.

yep! from what i've heard, for nautical, they have to do 12 months onboard ship while engineering only 9-11 month during cadet. hope you can help me clarify this linuxskate coz i'm not familiar with ur courses.
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Feb 9 2009, 05:16 PM)
haha!

just thought that there is position like that for engineer. maybe can have dynamic positioning engineer. haha.

hoho. you're in the 10 years contract or 5 years after Class 1/captain?
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DP courses available in MSTS Asia, Pasir Gudang, Johor. LINK

Dynamic Positioning Induction (4 days)
Dynamic Positioning Simulator Advanced(4 days)
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post Feb 10 2009, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(new~b0y @ Feb 10 2009, 06:01 AM)
DP courses available in MSTS Asia, Pasir Gudang, Johor. LINK

Dynamic Positioning Induction (4 days)
Dynamic Positioning Simulator Advanced(4 days)
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ok! thanks for the link.

wonder if only nautical can only take this course. hoho.

have to wait from someone familiar with this.


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btw, i've find the suitable course for marine engineer.

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Dynamic Positioning Technical & Maintenance Course.


but i don't think it is available in malaysia yet.

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post Feb 10 2009, 05:51 PM

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hehe every job has its pros and cons of course. that why they are willing to pay more for our sacrifices =)

no idea about this DP course. not our level yet.

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post Feb 10 2009, 07:11 PM

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yeah.

shouldn't be thinking about that now. better focus on my COC and diploma 1st. and planning to take commercial diving license too. but later on. too expensive and don't have much tym.

linuxskate, come and share your story about ur experience onboard ship.
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i didnt notice this thread exist .. lol .. by the way ... just to update u guys .. DME 22 and DNS 08 graduating this coming Saturday (valentine day) ^^
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post Feb 10 2009, 07:39 PM

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@drake88

you're dme or dns? u must be dns right. coz there is no dme 22. there is EC 22. hoho.

so, when are you going back to alam for graduation rehearsal?
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my friend .. EC is for last time .. now they call it DME (dip in marine engineering)

im DNS senior so dont have to go rehearsal ^^
waiting for your arrival to melaka campus .. : ) im sure u gonna take some module here...


Added on February 10, 2009, 7:47 pmfor your information im still studying (DNS 09).. hehe ..
not graduating ...


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post Feb 10 2009, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(drake88 @ Feb 10 2009, 07:45 PM)
my friend .. EC is for last time .. now they call it DME (dip in marine engineering)

im DNS senior so dont have to go rehearsal ^^
waiting for your arrival to melaka campus .. : ) im sure u gonna take some module here...


Added on February 10, 2009, 7:47 pmfor your information im still studying (DNS 09).. hehe ..
not graduating ...
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hoho. we only start DME for the 23rd batch. EC22 still 3 and 1/2 years. starting from dme 23, only 3 years.

yep. i'll be taking modular there. wait for me. haha!

btw, share your practical onboard stories here! i'm sure there are many readers want to hear it.
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post Feb 10 2009, 09:09 PM

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im 3rd year deck cadet (navigation) student in ALAM , going to grad mid of this year

practical onboard for 10 1/2 months (insufficient seatime ^^) , in order to obtain our COC we atleast need 12 months seatime

by the way im AET sponsor cadet, 1st ship Eagle Stealth trading along black sea and Mediterranean sea basically all around Europe

2nd ship Eagle Otome , trading around US to be specific is gulf of mexico this ship is more to ship to ship operation (VERY HECTIC) maximum 1 day voyage.

in this career often get work sick,sea sick, home sick and nevertheless love sick @@

but u get to travel to alot of places and experience different culture ^^


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post Feb 10 2009, 10:26 PM

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hoho. you're same sponsor as me. while you'll be graduating mid of this year, i'll go for my practical for 9-11 month. hoho. later on maybe i'll be meeting you as my senior officer if we happen to be on the same ship.

btw, how do you take the oral exam when you don't have enough sea-time? are you going for another 2 month for cadetship onboard?

onboard ur ship, do you internet? AFAIK, only aframaxes got internet facilities while for vlcc only able to send email right?

share ur story here about SRC(ship recreational club) and the BBQ experience you're having during shipboard practical. tell them about the facilities. they'll love to hear it.

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