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kanethesun
post Jul 15 2010, 09:28 PM

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hi there, I have a question,

I plan to tender my resignation on tomorrow (16/7)

by right I only need to give 2 months notice in advance, so my last day would be 16/9 (Malaysia Day, hahahahahaha)

but then I have around 12 days of AL, my Q is, can I reduce all my AL, says like until 4/9, and I pay for the 4 days wages, so my last day will end on 31/8? is this possible?
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:40 PM

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if they say 24 hours notice or salary in-lieu, does that mean you can leave after giving 1 day notice?
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post Jul 16 2010, 11:56 PM

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My fren just started work in a small audit firm for 2mths. At the 2nd mth of probation period her boss told her that her performance very bad and want her to leave.

Her boss said will give 1 mth notice period but during that 1 mth my fren sure will take leave and go for other new job interview. So, he gave my fren a so called "mutual agreement" and release my fren on the spot without any extra payment.

Is it a proper procedure to sack my fren like that?

This post has been edited by G@rfield: Jul 16 2010, 11:57 PM
qqstranger
post Jul 19 2010, 05:52 PM

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hi bro all here, i need advice regarding on my contract.

my contract list i need to serve 1year/12month and after confirmation need to give 1 month notice. my last date is 19/8 and i submit my resign latter to HR few day ago.

The HR say i can not resign now because i need to finish my contract 1 year then only can resign and need 1 month notice. so which is i need work until 19/8 and plus 1 month notice then the last day is on 19/9. if they proceed my resign latter then i need to pay back the whole year salary.

so now is that i have no choice to follow them my last day is 19/09 or i can just stop work after 19/08?

thanks for the advice
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QUOTE(qqstranger @ Jul 19 2010, 05:52 PM)
hi bro all here, i need advice regarding on my contract.

my contract list i need to serve 1year/12month and after confirmation need to give 1 month notice. my last date is 19/8 and i submit my resign latter to HR few day ago.

The HR say i can not resign now because i need to finish my contract 1 year then only can resign and need 1 month notice. so which is i need work until 19/8 and plus 1 month notice then the last day is on 19/9. if they proceed my resign latter then i need to pay back the whole year salary.

so now is that i have no choice to follow them my last day is 19/09 or i can just stop work after 19/08?

thanks for the advice
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1. must serve 1 year or 12 mths
2. after confirmation, need to give 1 mth notice

my advise :
1. just follow what the HR said, which means yr last day 19/9
2. if you are in good relation with your dept. manager and the HR manager, slow talk with them. Use reasons like :
---- "i am furthering my study. just got the opportunity which i waited so long and didn't think it came now coz long time no reply from the edu. institution"

James831
post Jul 28 2010, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Jun 30 2010, 07:35 PM)
I'm working as a teacher in a kindergarten, after 4 years, due to some reason, I've decided to leave.

I've already summit-ed my one-month notice (month ago) and today should be the last day of that one month (30 June).
However, my boss still assign many tasks for me and said If I can't finish it, I might need to go there and work for her on the following days (tomorrow, 1 July and so on).

My question is, are she having the right to do so since I'm not her employees anymore? Also, she is keeping my remaining EPF and salary, I afraid that I can't even get it without the job done.
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i have a similar problem too, i have submit 2 months notice to my boss and my last day is 29 July.
in previous stock check ,they found a few item missing, so just today he phone me and ask me to work 1 more month to help up do another stock checking.
my boss say if the problem not settle, i might not get my final month salary .
so should i stay for another month or work till 29 July only?
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post Jul 28 2010, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 28 2010, 09:30 PM)
i have a similar problem too, i have submit 2 months notice to my boss and my last day is 29 July.
in previous stock check ,they found a few item missing, so just today he phone me and ask me to work 1 more month to help up do another stock checking.
my boss say if the problem not settle, i might not get my final month salary .
so should i stay for another month or work till 29 July only?
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your boss not professional lor. Where got people do like that.
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post Jul 29 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 28 2010, 09:30 PM)
i have a similar problem too, i have submit 2 months notice to my boss and my last day is 29 July.
in previous stock check ,they found a few item missing, so just today he phone me and ask me to work 1 more month to help up do another stock checking.
my boss say if the problem not settle, i might not get my final month salary .
so should i stay for another month or work till 29 July only?
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Tell your boss that you have done what is required of your contractual obligation. He should fulfill the company's part of the contractual obligation and not resort to threat which is illeagal.

I will not stay another month. Your boss may pull another trick on you to keep you in. If you can stay for another month (no need to start new job), then negotiate for extra allowance. It seems like the company is desparate for manpower.
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post Jul 29 2010, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(DDSFan8 @ Jul 16 2010, 09:40 PM)
if they say 24 hours notice or salary in-lieu, does that mean you can leave after giving 1 day notice?
Yes.

Regards, Joey
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 28 2010, 09:30 PM)
i have a similar problem too, i have submit 2 months notice to my boss and my last day is 29 July.
in previous stock check ,they found a few item missing, so just today he phone me and ask me to work 1 more month to help up do another stock checking.
my boss say if the problem not settle, i might not get my final month salary .
so should i stay for another month or work till 29 July only?
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Agree with the others, this is quite BS

I would quite laugh at the face of the boss really, he is just trying to threaten you

Official last day is 29th of July, end of the story, world can die and company burn on the 29th afternoon, officially you do not have obligation to work for them after that.
And they have to give you full money and all since you did your side of the work.
Just to check, the stock issue, is it due by some error you did?
If so then can negociate, but otherwise not.

After that if the boss wants to make some special arrangements with you to work a bit more to finish some added work or something, it's really up to you.
But then you guys both decided on arrangement (money, time etc.)
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:35 PM

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Dear friends,

I’m a foreigner working for sub-contractor for an IT company in KL, staying here with my family.
Lately I just extend my employment with my current company for another 2 years, in the 3rd month after I renew my contract, the office where I assigned offered me a permanent employment with them.

And after long consideration, I choose to take this opportunity as they offer me a permanent employment, salary not really different, but they offer me a very good benefit although they will only cover my employment pass, and pass for my family I will neeed to bear the cost but they still going to help me to process

Fact:
- I still got a long employment with my current company
- 2 months notice before effective resignation
- Im staying here with family

Qst.

- I heard, here we must get what so called a release letter before we can join another company, else we will have to return to home country for 6 months, is it correct ?
- how about the immigration thingy, as im going to be converted to another company, is my family, my wife and kids also need to convert they pass ?, as it still got 1 year + validity
- in my contract stated, notice period 2 months, if I do not follow that I will get penalty 2x salary, so if I follow the contract, there shouldn’t be any issue is it ?
- how if after I follow all the process but still my company giving me hard time to get the release letter, is there anything I can do to push them ?

thank you very much for the enlightment

regards,

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:46 PM

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Hello epriann,

I am a foreigner too so maybe I can at least answer some of your questions:

- I heard, here we must get what so called a release letter before we can join another company, else we will have to return to home country for 6 months, is it correct ?
Yes, you need to get a release letter from your current company.
Then you can pass it to the agent of the new company that will handle your case
With this the agent will cancel your current visa (since it's associated to your current company) and issue the new working visa with the new company.
If I remember correctly the exact cooling period between the 2 visas is 2 weeks, but meanwhile you can stay in Malaysia (you will be issued a normal touristic visa for this).
I do not remember me having to leave the country by doing it this way.

- how about the immigration thingy, as im going to be converted to another company, is my family, my wife and kids also need to convert they pass ?, as it still got 1 year + validity
I was single at the time I jumped ship so I am not totally certain, but what kind of visa do they have?
If it's a touristic visa and in no way associated with your current company, I believe they should not have to change anything.
You might want to ask the visa agent of the new company about this.

- in my contract stated, notice period 2 months, if I do not follow that I will get penalty 2x salary, so if I follow the contract, there shouldn’t be any issue is it ?
If you follow the contract and give the 2 months notice, you should not have anything special to do if your contract does not mention about it.

- how if after I follow all the process but still my company giving me hard time to get the release letter, is there anything I can do to push them ?
Well, after this it comes to soft skill and negotiation with your current company.
Just try to make the transition as smooth as possible with your current company and be straightforward with them.
Explain about the new offer and why you would go with it (who knows, they might even make you a counter-offer smile.gif )

Officially they have to give you this release letter anyway I believe, they might just make it troublesome if they are not happy which is why I just suggest to try to make it as smoothly as possible
Personally my boss wasnt exactly so happy about it but I managed to make it smooth enough he didnt give me any issue.
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jul 29 2010, 04:32 PM)
Agree with the others, this is quite BS

I would quite laugh at the face of the boss really, he is just trying to threaten you

Official last day is 29th of July, end of the story, world can die and company burn on the 29th afternoon, officially you do not have obligation to work for them after that.
And they have to give you full money and all since you did your side of the work.
Just to check, the stock issue, is it due by some error you did?
If so then can negociate, but otherwise not.

After that if the boss wants to make some special arrangements with you to work a bit more to finish some added work or something, it's really up to you.
But then you guys both decided on arrangement (money, time etc.)
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the stock issue is that my previous supervisor misconduct ,then in recent stock check found out got product missing, so my boss ask me work 1 more month to help .
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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 29 2010, 06:17 PM)
the stock issue is that my previous supervisor misconduct ,then in recent stock check found out got product missing, so my boss ask me work 1 more month to help .
Do you want to extend your service to the company or not?

Regards, Joey
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:21 AM

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i have no intention to extend my service to my company.
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:53 AM

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You already serve notice so leave. If they dont pay report them.
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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 29 2010, 06:17 PM)
the stock issue is that my previous supervisor misconduct ,then in recent stock check found out got product missing, so my boss ask me work 1 more month to help .
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Then yar, if it's not a fault done by you then you are under no obligation to work anymore.

If you WANT to do so, can negociate with the boss but from what you are saying it does not look like you want.

Agree with faceless, if they do not pay, report them
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QUOTE(G@rfield @ Jul 16 2010, 11:56 PM)
My fren just started work in a small audit firm for 2mths. At the 2nd mth of probation period her boss told her that her performance very bad and want her to leave.

Her boss said will give 1 mth notice period but during that 1 mth my fren sure will take leave and go for other new job interview. So, he gave my fren a so called "mutual agreement" and release my fren on the spot without any extra payment.
Is it a proper procedure to sack my fren like that?
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Notice was serve accordingly. You friend accepted the notice without protest. It is by the book.

If the company wanted the employee to leave early, they can waive the notice period. That means they must pay the salary while the employed is not required to report for work. Companies do this because they are afraid the terminated employee can sabotage the company. They dont mind paying the "gaji-buta" for peace of mind. Since there is a "mutual agreement", it saves the company the trouble of waiving the notice.
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QUOTE(G@rfield @ Jul 16 2010, 11:56 PM)
My fren just started work in a small audit firm for 2mths. At the 2nd mth of probation period her boss told her that her performance very bad and want her to leave.

Her boss said will give 1 mth notice period but during that 1 mth my fren sure will take leave and go for other new job interview. So, he gave my fren a so called "mutual agreement" and release my fren on the spot without any extra payment.

Is it a proper procedure to sack my fren like that?
How long is your friend's probationary period? I think there's foul play here.

Regards, Joey

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post Aug 3 2010, 12:00 PM

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i tendered resignation on 2nd August and stated i will give one week notice instead of two months. the rest of notice period will buy out from new company.

replied from hr regarding short notice : upon manager approval
replies from manager : cant promise i can leave this week, need to discuss with my team lead.

i will need to join new company on 9th August.

In this case, what will happen if my manager does not approve for short notice even if i will compensate the rest of notice period ?

Manager doesnt happy and said my act was being unprofessional.



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