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HW-Racer
post Oct 26 2009, 09:17 PM

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very hard to find Citizen watches retailer....in KL.... not many places carry it
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(HW-Racer @ Oct 26 2009, 09:17 PM)
very hard to find Citizen watches retailer....in KL.... not many places carry it
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post Oct 27 2009, 10:56 AM

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Finally my watch was sent to distributor for repair yesterday due to the sapphire glass was crack after 1st drop

The cost to repair the sapphire glass is RM 158.

However, the front desk girl ask me whether should I complete overhaul the watch since I drop the watch. Cost is RM 530 and i agreed. Complete overhaul included change oil, check the movement, change tube if necessary, etc. ( wonder if there any extra charge if tube need to change.)

My question is,
I bought the watch for less than 7 months. Don't you think that the 'complete overhaul' should be under warranty?
The manual book clearly stated that the warranty exclude the glass, bezel and case only.
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post Oct 27 2009, 11:33 AM

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Wow, overhaul at rm530. Whats the brand, bro?
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Reave @ Oct 27 2009, 11:33 AM)
Wow, overhaul at rm530. Whats the brand, bro?
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It's Ball watch...i expected the overhaul price is few hundred but unexpected to pay it within warranty period smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2009, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Oct 27 2009, 10:56 AM)
Finally my watch was sent to distributor for repair yesterday due to the sapphire glass was crack after 1st drop

The cost to repair the sapphire glass is RM 158.

However, the front desk girl ask me whether should I complete overhaul the watch since I drop the watch. Cost is RM 530 and i agreed. Complete overhaul included change oil, check the movement, change tube if necessary, etc. ( wonder if there any extra charge if tube need to change.)

My question is,
I bought the watch for less than 7 months. Don't you think that the 'complete overhaul' should be under warranty?
The manual book clearly stated that the warranty exclude the glass, bezel and case only.
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U drop the watch, such service is not covered by the warranty.


Added on October 28, 2009, 7:58 am
intro a young brand TX watch co. I guess those who low Seiko with multiple subdials may like their design.
retails (b4 discount): US$375 to US$700
http://www.txwatches.com/

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post Oct 28 2009, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Oct 27 2009, 09:41 PM)
U drop the watch, such service is not covered by the warranty.

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I read in the manual stated that warranty is not cover in crystal and case only...

For example,

Let say you bought a Ferrari for a month, assume it stated the engine will be fine even you wreck your car (In ball term, it stated shock resistance is 5,000G) you accidentally hit your pumper and crack (my case, crystal crack)...

You sent it for repair and the service center said they better check the whole car coz scare that any electronic device affected by such shock (my case, movement of my watch)...and they charge you few thousand for the service, exclude the pumper cost...

I mean, you can say it's your fault but my benchmark of good dealer should be checking for FOC within warranty period.

Just my 2 cents

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Oct 28 2009, 09:53 AM)
I read in the manual stated that warranty is not cover in crystal and case only...

For example,

Let say you bought a Ferrari for a month, assume it stated the engine will be fine even you wreck your car (In ball term, it stated shock resistance is 5,000G) you accidentally hit your pumper and crack (my case, crystal crack)...

You sent it for repair and the service center said they better check the whole car coz scare that any electronic device affected by such shock (my case, movement of my watch)...and they charge you few thousand for the service, exclude the pumper cost...

I mean, you can say it's your fault but my benchmark of good dealer should be checking for FOC within warranty period.

Just my 2 cents
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i think it's because you drop your watches then nothing is covered

if you wear it then it suddenly stop or something, then should be covered.

i think warranty nowaday only cover factory defect doh.gif
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post Oct 28 2009, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Oct 28 2009, 09:53 AM)
I read in the manual stated that warranty is not cover in crystal and case only...

For example,

Let say you bought a Ferrari for a month, assume it stated the engine will be fine even you wreck your car (In ball term, it stated shock resistance is 5,000G) you accidentally hit your pumper and crack (my case, crystal crack)...

You sent it for repair and the service center said they better check the whole car coz scare that any electronic device affected by such shock (my case, movement of my watch)...and they charge you few thousand for the service, exclude the pumper cost...

I mean, you can say it's your fault but my benchmark of good dealer should be checking for FOC within warranty period.

Just my 2 cents
there isn't warranty out there today. Its Limited warranty. U ought to read it more carefully.
Ball did state its shock resistance is at 5000G when the glass crack, since U did not measure the strength of impact its in their favor. U can try sue them. for those who got a Ferrari I bet Ferrari is smart enough to cover their Ass for such damage.
and BTW U bought a Ball in prestige wise its not even close to a Ferrari by comparison. if u got a PP @ US$200K every yr maybe there is leeway.

Its the same deal with Tag Heuer, I sent my watch in for change of battery, they change it and it didn't run. U would think its their fault but hell no, they make U pay to overhaul the watch to get it running! BTW that had happened to me more than 1 time. so its not the dealer fault, U can do it in Malaysia, USA, Singapore same Sh*t they will give U. With that U should stay away from Ball watches in general not the dealer.


http://www.abt.com/images/products/PDF_Fil...ners_Manual.pdf
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BALL International Warranty

Built to exceed traditional Swiss watchmaking standards, your BALL watch is warranted
by Ball Watch Company, Inc for a period of twenty-four months from the date of
purchase under the terms and conditions of this warranty. You are cordially invited to
register at our web site www.ballwatch.com during the initial 24-month period after
purchase for free extended twelve months warranty to effectively cover your BALL
watch by a total of thirty-six months warranty period. The international warranty covers
material and manufacturing defects.
The warranty will only be valid when the warranty
card is dated, fully and correctly completed and stamped by a BALL Authorized Dealer.
During the warranty period and by presenting the valid warranty card, you are entitled to
have any manufacturing defect repaired free of charge.
In the event that repairs are
unable to restore the normal conditions, Ball Watch Company, Inc guarantees its
replacement by a BALL watch of identical or similar characteristics. The warranty for the
replacement watch ends twenty-four months after the date of replacement of the replaced
watch.

The international warranty does not extend to the bracelet or glass nor does it cover any
damage done to the watch and the movement by humidity entering the watch because of
a handling error.
The normal wear and tear and aging of the watch will not be covered
under this warranty. We reserve the right to relinquish all responsibilities under this
guarantee for repair if the watch is tampered with or damaged by unauthorized persons
other than BALL Authorized Service Centers.
This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 29 2009, 03:38 AM
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post Oct 29 2009, 11:20 AM

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patryn33,

Wow, thank you for your effort to post it up...appreciated smile.gif

I read it few times in the Ball's manual...same as you, I only focus on the wording "a handling error"...

But if you read it as a sentence,

"The international warranty does not extend ...the movement by humidity entering the watch because of a handling error."

Don't you think that they're not cover only if water enter the movement?

I dropped the watch, the glass in crack and i responsible for that smile.gif

However, my movement still working fine...in my expectation, they should provide free service for checking within warranty period smile.gif

If they're not up to my expectation, too bad...but I heard a number of good customer service in M'sia...especially for free calibration within warranty period smile.gif

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post Oct 29 2009, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Oct 29 2009, 11:20 AM)
If they're not up to my expectation, too bad...but I heard a number of good customer service in M'sia...especially for free calibration within warranty period smile.gif
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true, but never free due to handling error. manufacture defects yea.

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try bringing this issue up to Ball; if the guy you are talking to is unable to do anything, escalate.

who knows, with enough effort, you might just get your money back.
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post Oct 30 2009, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Oct 30 2009, 11:04 AM)
try bringing this issue up to Ball; if the guy you are talking to is unable to do anything, escalate.

who knows, with enough effort, you might just get your money back.
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Did sent a email to Ball USA...will seek confirmation during my next visit on Ball Distribution Malaysia smile.gif

Thank for advice...

By the way, when will retailer provide free calibration?
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post Oct 30 2009, 06:05 PM

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Can someone advise me on the prices of Graf Zeppelin watches? Also where to view them..

Edit: Oh... I looked back one page, tropicana city? The last time I went there so empty.. Any place else to see Graf Zeppelin watches?

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nomanomi
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wassup guys
i want to buy new g shock
my budget is below 250

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post Oct 31 2009, 09:13 PM

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how to remove scratch from a watch?
izzit available to remove scratch or just change the mirror of the watch in watches shop?
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QUOTE(nomanomi @ Oct 31 2009, 12:02 AM)
wassup guys
i want to buy new g shock
my budget is below 250
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new ghock??...try look at the military edition...look nice to me...look for forummer who sells gshocks..the price range is within ur budget.. smile.gif
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ok2
thanks sucka3
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post Nov 2 2009, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Oct 30 2009, 04:46 PM)
By the way, when will retailer provide free calibration?
U mean, regulate the watch? when? its not about when. should your watch run out of the specs the retailer will regulate it for free.
should it run within specs even it is at the worst end, they will not do anything about it.

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QUOTE(sucka3 @ Nov 1 2009, 02:49 PM)
new ghock??...try look at the military edition...look nice to me...look for forummer who sells gshocks..the price range is within ur budget.. smile.gif
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military edition? i got one, mudman military edition
but nowadays its hard to find military edition under rm250
the price now range rm290-rm360.


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