you're the guy that ordered Jorg's Stowa right? the Flieger ? been contemplating it for a long time...

love the Nomos Tangente series...

but after currency conversion......sigh......




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ck 77's experience with this homage made me do some browsing on Chinese movements...

was shocked when i read more about them..!!

first, show pictures first..



http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=272341

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=263690


other homage models can be seen here...

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=320150


kind of a hit and miss if you read the user's experiences...but for a price of below 100USD.....i am amazed!!

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yeah, i had same thoughts...most of the review are immediately after receiving..with photos and all that...was searching for after 6 months or 1 year ownership experience...
well, hopefully ck77's one will turn out to be alright!


Am looking at watches with power reserve display now...dont know why...but i like the idea of knowing how much juice left in my automatics.....hahahaha


now, shortlisting to
Hamilton jazzmaster,
Mido Baroncelli,
or perhaps one of those Seiko Premiers with the power display function

Frede C., Maurice Lac, and Longines do have some nice lower end models with the function but still pricey...

not wanting to pay more than 3k if possible...

[quote=patryn33,Jan 25 2010, 09:34 AM]frederique Constant? I didn't find any. which 1 are u looking at?

Hamilton H32519535, isn't more than 3K?
http://www.watchconcepts.com/wc/hamilton/h32519755.htm

Mido Baroncelli definately cost more than a Hamilton
Seiko...not true mechanical... get Orient since they are part of Seiko group
http://www.roachman.com/orient/preserve/CFHAA001.html

this NOS Hamilton seem the cheapest. under 3K
http://www.thewatchery.com/Hamilton/Watch/H34519591

Tissot also do. maybe cheaper than hamilton
http://www.luxurywatchstore.com/watches/wa...4.11.053.00.asp

Sandoz
http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/San...SSalesTable.htm

Swiss Army Airboss Mach 4



ooops...my bad...no power reserve display for FC....

but Maurice Lac has one...the pontos series....retailing about 6.5K i think....

This post has been edited by nando: Jan 27 2010, 07:38 PM

at end of day, its your watch......you must know why you buy it...

a lot of watch lovers will tell you why buy this brand and that brand...and many times they are right....but always buy what you like....

buy what you can afford...its a never ending..chase....you might be tempted to fork out few hundreds just to get a better brand....and then some one will tell you...with the price...why not pay a bit extra to get better brand? and so on and so on..

Movement is very interesting thing....a main criteria for watch lovers....first thing they'll do is to ask about movement...
But is everyone a movement person? No. So you need to ask yourself....if you really like a design, and the brand has reputation for durability, and pricing is not bad...but movement is something not attractive....do you buy it because of the design...or dont buy it because of movement? At end of day, its your watch...do you get excited seeing the design and wearing the design...or you're very particular about what is beating inside? WE have to admit..to some people...chronographs and multiple hands is more important that if its a 7750 or a lower ETA...

Basic point...ask around, browse around, especially if you're forking out more than 1K for a watch...but at end of day..buy what you like...

ITs true..Fortis and Ball are better `value for money' for watch people...but at end of day...if you're really impressed and in love with a Tag....and found one with an acceptable pricing....it's better you go for it...Dont wear a Fortis or Ball just because watch lovers say its better...buy it only because you're totally convinced this is something you will want to keep for long time...

As for investment..remember, this is not a case of one day if you sell you make money...Only an elite group of watches have that characteristics.....and they are usually very very expensive to start with...or it takes a very experienced watch person to know that this particular design will be very popular and limited..blah blah blah....To us novice.......good `investment' means buying something that is lasting, reliable and will not lose you lots of money when you resell......But then, when you do homework properly and buy what you like..no reason to resell mah!

Also, buy something that will remind you of an occasion.....after all...a watch serves as a great way to remind yourself of something/someone


for past 2 months, i've been reading, browsing forums....and i know..one day, i will find what is valuable to me...and me....Hopefully, it will be a piece that will also impress people but first priority is me...hahaha!!!

do browse many forums and talk to experts.....check out forums on brands like Oris, Ball, Fortis, Hamilton, Sinn, Mido...and then..there is the Omega, Tag, Longines...and once in a while...browse the IWC, Panerai and Rolex forums ...hahahaa!!! and then there are those brands with names of people..that we cannot even pronounce...and buy..hahaha

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Added on February 6, 2010, 7:36 pmis this true by the way???

Breaking news: LVMH announces merger of Zenith and TAG Heuer!

http://home.watchprosite.com/show-forumpos.../ti-578221/s-0/

This post has been edited by nando: Feb 6 2010, 07:36 PM

hmmmm...maybe we see Zenith in hands of F1 stars and actors...

saw this thread and nearly pengsan!!

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=352840&page=2

patryn...you dealt with collectors time before? are their web listed prices negotiable?

This post has been edited by nando: Feb 6 2010, 11:58 PM

yeah....collectorstime have quite nice collections of Zenith...

u need to provide more details to narrow down.....dress watch? sporty? with subdials? etc?

however with budget for 2-2.5k, i think you'll have more choices with Tissot and lesser choice with Oris and definitely Tag...

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Added on February 18, 2010, 10:15 pmcool looking homage, khopl...
BTW, care to share the specs/price/source of this Pam homage? if not convenient, do pm me the details...

i think your Ball is getting lonelier...hahahah




This post has been edited by nando: Feb 18 2010, 10:15 PM

man khopl...you're winning the unofficial title of most number of new watches/week...!!

The Jean Richard Bressel Alternativ 1665 looks nice....any comments on this brand and pricing?
http://www.collectorstime.com/new-watches.php

[quote=patryn33,Feb 21 2010, 03:17 AM]
Jean Richard make great watches. JR 1000 is their 1st inhouse movement and irrc they didn't even rely on their famous sister company Girard-Perregaux!! unlike other lux brands such as JLC, A Lange etc they didn't do much decorative finishing.
got 1 older model for my sibling a yr ago, movement is base off ETA (compare it with a Oris, the base ETA movement already so much better, not to mentioned on a Jean Richard its Mod). resale value is weak but U are getting a good watch (inhouse movement with power reserve, date, regulator style) for little money.



thanks patryn...yeah...did some review myself when i saw the advertisement....

just wondering why so much discount is given? normally, good swiss watches dont go beyond 35% unless if its clearance or very special offer...

This post has been edited by nando: Feb 21 2010, 11:12 AM

ok..thanks...now i got one silly question...
what actually is grey market in watch business? how is it different from AD?

good to know you own one as well...How is the quality of JR? read in forum elsewhere that all their parts are genuinely swiss...

This post has been edited by nando: Feb 21 2010, 09:52 PM

[quote=patryn33,Feb 22 2010, 04:40 AM]
AD = authorize dealer. In their contract, they are required to buy X amount of watches from these brands and can only give limited controlled discount.

gray market dealers, they obtain watches thru AD. In this bad Econ, AD may go under and need to liquidate. There is no way to sell in such a short time, they will let go their items at a low price to these dealers without warranty. in other case, AD are carrying too much stock or need cash flow or some other reason. They also let it go cheap to these dealers.

I did tell U the quality of JR! u missed that in my post? JR is a sister company of the GREAT Girard-Perregaux.
guess U aren't familiar with Girard-Perregaux. Girard-Perregaux is up there with JLC/Patek/VC.. they make their own movements.

to quality swiss made at least 51% of the parts must be made in Switzerland, assembled in swiss and regulated and case in swiss. JR 1000 may have a higher percentage since they have access to Sowind group manufacturing facilities. rest assured u are not getting a watch with quality that is avg.

read all about "The man behind the brand Daniel jeanRichard"
http://www.watchtime.com/2010/01/the-man-b...el-jeanrichard/


thanks for the explanation..yes, i am aware of JR's connection with GP and their infamous JR1000 movement...

what i meant by quality was daily usage... toughness, etc, ...since you owned one, i was thinking of you sharing day to day user experience.., not so much on background of manufacturing..from your posts looks like your giving it a thumbs up...anyway, appreciate your insights

This post has been edited by nando: Feb 22 2010, 10:50 AM

sorry, i meant famous (not in famous)

i might not be as knowledgeable in watches as you but i think i am aware that the JR Bressel is not for swimming with crocodiles or dodging bullets in a war with Talibans. thanks anyway for the insight that its a reliable dress watch.

This post has been edited by nando: Feb 22 2010, 12:54 PM

looks good!!

...pity your Ball....lonelier now....hahaha

wah...7 days power reserve indicator some more...so, does it work?

haha


This post has been edited by nando: Feb 22 2010, 08:20 PM

thanks mate!..only thing i need to watch out for is if there's a problem in years to come...watches like this may cost a bomb to repair...

anyway, i saw in JR website there is a JR office in KL...so should be okay....

anyway, here are the 4 models on sale....any comments from all the watch lovers here on the dial design...? all same movement and same specs (i think)...only dial design different...

BTW..pics taken from the gray dealer website..hope its okay...(i am kind of doing free promo for him right? (hehehe)

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WOW!!!..one of my grail....

must have cost a big hole in your pocket!

i cant say i am not envious...and of course i am wondering what kind of job you have...hahahah!!

but important thing is let me wish you `Wear in Good Health!'