U only need to take it in every 4-5yrs. for a mechanical Tag ~$200 and usually takes about 1-2week.
a quartz is every 3yrs, cost ~$30 and its a 30min job!

1) Longines is Tag's competitor.
2) Luminox ok... most watches are quartz. wouldn't rate it high along with Longines/Tag

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Added on February 28, 2010, 9:26 pm

Unitas? 6498/6497 they are not automatic all manual wind.
swiss movement and U want pwr reserve, i believe all the options are listed a few pages back. Thing is none of them are in PVD case in nando's 3K budget. if your budget is higher than his, there are of course 1-2 around.

its extremely hard to find chrono+pwr reserve combo watches.
when U say prefer are they optional options?
as for aviator are u looking for onion crown?

eg: Swiss Army Victorinox Airboss Mach 6 Power Gauge Limited Edition.
both chrono+pwr reserve+PVD+45mm case. cost wise ~US$4K
http://www.swissarmy.com/Timepieces/Pages/...&product=241308
Zenith will have it but u know the cost. its should be more than US$14K.
http://www.thewatchery.com/Zenith/Watches/...efy_Xtreme/Mens
Graham Swordfish PVD
Pam and Bell & Ross, U'll definitely find it.

not looking for complications.
Archimede Black Pilot: good value priced under EUR$450.
http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-family.htm
Fortis, its PVD with day date, but 42mm case and no pwr reserve.
http://www.worldlux.com/cgi-bin/navigate.c...froogle_sponsor
Aristo PVD Pilot
Zeno (found a chrono+pwr reserve+date) don't have PVD, 44mm case, day.
http://www.zeno-watch.ch/en/watches.html

I was like you when I was deciding on the carrera with date or DD. In the end I got myself the DD. For me the main difference is the size, and the usual date only version is too common IMHO. With the budget of around 10k, you actually do have a lot of choices My DD runs +1 sec / day crown up and +- 0 when my dial facing up. That's what I can tell u bout the watch. Tho its not a chronometer, the accuracy is within the chronometer range. I was tempted by the omega speedmaster as well, but it just looks too small on my wrist. If anyone were to say every tom d*** and harry has it, he/she must have a lot of friends who are quite well to do eh? No offense taken.
patryn33: the Zenith El Primero doesn't look like a swatch, it reminds me of gerald genta sport without the subdials

something like these? if omega can get ~25% discount 10K is possible.

What I meant by preferably is I don't really mind if the watch don't have the feature/function but it'll be a plus if it has.
And as for the crown, onion or no onion is okay with me. 

Thanks a lot for your recommendations, patryn33....the Swiss Army Victorinox Airboss Mach 6 Power Gauge Limited Edition you recommended looks great and I think it has almost all the requirements I wanted....however unfortunately the Swiss Army brand doesn't really appeal to me....like Tag, B&R and a few others (no offense to fans of the brands)...these are well established brands who produces fine watches but somehow for whatever reasons....the brand doesn't appeal to me. 

It ain't that easy finding the perfect watch I suppose!   

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Added on March 2, 2010, 1:26 pm

Many thanks Jason! I've always liked the Oris BC4...wonder why it never crossed my mind before this!! 
Maybe I'll check it out at the shops this weekend!! 

The Oris BC4 will easily set me back RM10k+ after discount!! But what to do....gatal....if nothing to do this weekend then maybe go 'look-see loo-see' la. 

Maybe should just settle for the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono 47mm 

Talking about my Aviator....one of my friends said it looked like a Swatch at a glance!! %*#@#&!!!!  

Its not that the brand sounds cheap to me....but dunno how to explain la....like I can't see myself wearing the brand I guess. In fact, I quite like their design (Swiss Army)...plus I know that particular model has pretty good movement...quality and all. Well, like I said...the brand doesn't appeal to me. Like Tag...its doesn't sound cheap and it isn't cheap either....but it doesn't appeal to me. B&R too...Montblanc (don't mind their pens actually  )...Longines too..to name a few.

Actually I just like that particular Oris....the BC4...the rest of their line, well not so much.

In fact, when I got the Ball Aviator, I was contemplating between Oris TT3 and Maurice Lacroix Pontos Chronographe. The TT3 is titanium...really light...and I dunno...it feels plasticky to me...I mean the weight of course!    I prefer something heavier I guess. I was really really tempted by the ML but then I was actually looking for something I can wear everyday...a 'workhorse' so to speak...and I don't think I can wear the ML everyday. So I finally settle for the Aviator...plus the sales person was going on and on about how great the lume is.    Well, after buying it...its now more like a 'retired horse' than a 'workhorse'!!! 

You asked which brand I have a thing for? Well, to be honest, there are a few brands that I stay away from (as mentioned above) as they don't appeal to me (again, no offense to any fans)....but I quite fancy IWC particularly the pilot models, Omega, Panerai, Sinn....sigh, if only can afford!!....but in general, I like Aviator/Pilot styled watches. 

What about yourself...I gotta feeling you have a thing for Zenith. 

Decision, decisions, decisions eh? hahahaha
Its a good thing ure not an impulse buyer...seriously. Wish I could be like that!
The Jean Richard 1665 looks seriously good! Which Oris and Ball are you eyeing at??

@6.5K either get Jean Richard or add more ### and get the omega co-axial!!!!!!
get Oris + Ball both end up entry level, double the cost of servicing.
check around, hope this yr increase didn't happen yet.

today I think Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra got the 8500 movement, with time maybe u see it in more models.
then again with time... prices go up too!!!

are U the kind who love 10 3K watches vs 1 30K watch?

everyone is bounded by economically and by monthly commitments (family, house mortgage, etc etc).
anyway my pt is are U the kind who will get a few entry level swiss made watches (oris, Ball, Tag etc) or a mid Lux watch (Omega, Cartier)
RM300 a bit too extreme here.. a few 3-5 RM3-4k over 1 RM12-20K.



die hard collector would have brunch off to vintage watches and collect a certain type of watches.
I have see a die hard collector showing me a tin box filled with military style watches, some cheap like those Hamilton others a JLC/IWC. all no strap just case and further more free to bang at each other. that really wow me.

the oh so common tag heuer..

versus this..


thoughts?

i find it funny that someone in the market to purchase a 50k watch (doesn't really matter MYR/USD/GBP) is posting in a forum... its just that i think he/she should already have an idea of what they want.

especially with that sort of budget.

just imo.

Wow RM100++ right?

yea sure guys, im not buying it...its my mum going to buy this time...im still yet to reach that standard yet lol just wearing a crappy tag heuer now hehe...

but must take time to choose la...this things cannot rush rite?
i rmb when my dad bought a PP,my dad's friend said it is like wearing a real moving honda accord on a wrist...==

I couldn't agree more, best is check out pre-own dealers. eg passions.com.sg ebronzeage.com

however the above in Bold I don't really get it. u mean prices adjust down to boost sales?

when ppl talk about resale value cold only mean 2 things.
- selling it privately online thru WUS/timezone etc
- selling it thru these dealers. dealers wanna make $$ priced u sell to them definitely lower than whats listed.

Rolex is steady... Pam.. i doubt it... when US Econ is strong, preown pammy was sold higher than their retail prices by a good 5-15%! today preown are sold at 5-15% down from their retail prices. If the hype didn't hold up... resale value drop drop drop.

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Added on March 12, 2010, 11:59 am

true! not a rolex fan... has the 2 tone prices sky rocketed?
rolex discontinued sea dweller replacing it with deepsea and prices went up very high for awhile almost immed. today not sure whats the deal out there.

ok so can i get the 2010 model http://precisiontime.blogspot.com/2010/02/...submariner.html for rm15k and below(when it will released) one thing if i bought it, will people say it is fake because im too young to wear rolex rite?i mean rolex is like for a matured men or businessman and im only a uni student