STEINHART "ESQUELETO NEGRO limitiert" this one is damn nice

You can take a look at Arbutus. My friend just bought one for herself and her bf. RM600 each. What is the suprise is that, these two watches are both automatic, chronograph, leather strap with deployment and one of them even had Power reserve. I was like wtf. The one with the power reserve also had blued hands and they both looked great. Its an American brand, has EVERYTHING but somehow I can't bring myself to buying one. Wtf is wrong with me.

Edit: So yea... Do consider this brand, you will be suprised.

Albert Reed along with his brother, founded the ARBUTUS watch company in the early 1980's. They named the company after Albert's hometown in Canada, which was largely destroyed by a fire. Albert spent almost 30 years studying and working as an apprentice in a watch factory located in Shanghai. So, he is well versed in the mechanics of fine timepieces.

but credor or grand seiko is not available in malaysia. the credor cost 150k USD is it?

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Added on December 16, 2009, 8:05 pm

the price is aint that bad. retail price was rm2520 but i got 30% discount of of it...i think u can do the maths right

I like this design. How much?

the price is aint that bad. retail price was rm2520 but i got 30% discount of of it...i think u can do the maths right

maybe thats the reason haha...
havent been wearing a japanese watch for a very long time, got converted to swiss lover haha it is like if you go swiss made, you wouldnt go wrong

Tag Heuer New Caliber 1887 Watch Movement SNAFU

This was certainly a sticky situation for Tag Heuer, the details are a bit murky, but the situation is clear. Tag Heuer recently announced their "new, in-house made and designed" Caliber 1887 automatic chronograph movement. All seems well with the movement itself, but the problem is that Tag Heuer didn't design it. Nope, they sort of cosmetically altered an over 10 year old Japanese Seiko movement design (Seiko 6S37). So after 150 years, Tag Heuer's anniversary surprise was on loan from Japan. I do understand that this was arranged with Seiko, and that Tag Heuer will actually be building the movements in limited quantities themselves. At least Seiko isn't doing everything.

Tag Heuer got caught red handed by the watch lover community who noticed the similarities between the two movements. This qualifies us as true nerds, seeing details such as this. Tag Heuer would have gotten away with it to, if it wasn't for us meddling bloggers! That's right, thank the internet watch lover community, who is responsible for this situation being discovered. A powerful indication to the watch industry of what the internet can do for them, or against them. In good taste, as a response to the situation, Tag Heuer CEO Jean-Christophe Babin himself went online to respond to the "accusations." He honorably admitted a "mistake" by Tag Heuer and that the movement was in fact "adopted" from Seiko.

The clear winner in this whole situation is first and foremost the power of the Internet watch lover community, second Seiko, and third Tag Heuer for responding to a sticky situation quickly and admirably. Seiko movements are pretty outstanding, and it is funny that here even the Europeans are rather tacitly suggesting that. Plus, Tag Heuer is a rather mainstream watch brand. Meaning that most people who buy their watches will never even know about this situation. Tag Heuer admitted wrong doing, hopefully a few heads will be caved in there in the marketing department, and they will go on their lives being good watch designers, not movement designers. Lastly, there are several watch forums and blogs that knew about this situation but refused to mention it even though they discussed the new Tag Heuer Caliber 1887movement. They lose the most in this situation for the destruction of valuable street cred among Internet watch lovers who simply expect more.

i do agree with you. seiko got too  many range of products and caused a problem on their branding.

people no longer see that seiko as an expensive watch compared to swiss made

How bout this credor? it's usd 150k

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Added on December 17, 2009, 1:56 pm

that's why i took the plunge to try out the latest seiko premier and i must say, im happy about it especially the reception towards the watch. in fact the high range seiko watches dun come cheap nowadays. i came across a limited edition Seiko Arctura and it cost a whooping rm19000 for a japanese movement watch.
i guess it's time we look out of the box cheers

nope. certainly not. it was clearly stated rm19K for a limited arctura which look something the above pic. saw it at Moments the last time i was at The Curve

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Added on December 17, 2009, 10:41 pmHow much is 15 millions yen? that's the price quoted for the seiko credor sonnerie
http://www.seikospringdrive.com/sonnerie/i..._procedure.html

haha. if u're a billionaire...will u spend tat much on Seiko?
personally i think the LE arctura is not worth it

if billionaire in USD, for sure will get the Jaeger Le-coultre Hybris Mechanica Grand sonnerie 3 piece set along with the vault

orgasmic!!

Where to get a nice discount of BALL watch?
1 U o mid valley?

i looking for BALL watch:
something with both Date n Day:

i have some on my mind but need to know the pricing you guys get
engineer 2 ohio
engineer 2 arabic
engineer master 2 aviator
engineer master 2 chronometer
engineer master 2 diver

which one is the cheapest?

you sure dude ???? What's wrong with the dial?

I got this from my relatives as a reward for studying abroad and i didn't check it properly until now. I think i had to check the receipt and proof of cert he kept when i'm going back msia.

Nah I don't think I can afford this  So I guess am gonna live with homage 

i have posted maurice lacroix masterpiece squelette at www.limautambun.blogspot.com . Maybe today i'll write a story related to that timepiece.

do you guys have any recommended websites which i can read up about watches? whether it be basic or advanced level..

hello! im new to watch collecting, about to graduate to my 1st auto watch. I have 2k-3k budget, and have been pretty keen on victorinox, hamilton, ball and fortis. u guys think theres any from these models that can suit my budget?

perhaps you can try certina (example as below):
http://www.certina.com/Collection/Gent-Aut...Valgranges.aspx

i belive the price would suit your budget perfectly (~myr2-3k), is swiss made (although not a luxury watchmaker), and has decent, classic designs.

i have been reading this forum from the very 1st thread until now, i still dont understand the grey market stuff. Is it genuine watches? patryn33 pmed me and suggested a hamilton from a grey market, i peeped into hamilton website and found pretty nice ones. i am interested to get a hamilton from a grey market, but im worried about the authenticity, and after sales services. another matter that im confused about is are these grey market are just on the net, or are there some brick and mortar watch sellers that is a part of the grey market?