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Hardware The New MacBook/MacBook Pro Users Thread v3, Share your joy and your pain here

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Edoras
post Dec 31 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(hapa @ Dec 31 2008, 01:45 PM)
About the hard case, will it leave marks??
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So far so good...

The only problem is that its quite slippery when put on my lap... tongue.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(hapa @ Dec 31 2008, 12:46 PM)
bro i don think tat a good idea.. double protection jz will make the mbp ventilation bcome more worse...
after i apply the skin on my mbp, i get 2 times black screen of death adi while playing games, the heat dispersion on the bottom is kinda blocked by the skin.. b4 i apply the skin, i nv hv this prob, even while gaming..

bro, better don apply two together, sure will make ur mbp easily overheat...
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The skin really make your mbp went off?
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:00 PM

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Yeah...From my understanding the Invisible Skin does not block the ventilation....
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(victorchew @ Dec 31 2008, 02:46 PM)
The skin really make your mbp went off?
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yep... twice after i apply the skin... screen go black, but the sound still on, hv to manually restart it...


Added on December 31, 2008, 3:14 pm
QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 31 2008, 01:55 PM)
hapa, i dun see how it would block ventilationi
alumimum is used to disperse the heat through the material itself n not through ventilation, i thnk biggrin.gif
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sorry sorry, wat i mean is act the aluminum body itself not the air ventilation hole behind mbp... the skin cover up the bottom mbp, cause the heat unable to disperse thru bottom alu...

This post has been edited by hapa: Dec 31 2008, 03:14 PM
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:19 PM

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i dun remeber aluminium dispersing heat this way though, but then again, i only had education till primary 6 biggrin.gif


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post Dec 31 2008, 03:34 PM

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The beauty of aluminium unibody, besides being carved from a single block, is also it helps dispersing heat from conduction through its body to the surrounding air via convection. Your unibody shell acts like a giant heatsink, and wrapping it with any kind of plastic or layers of thin plastic negates this capability or severely degrades it. Sure, everyone wants to protect their beloved purchases, but do so at a common-sensical approach. The white plastic Macbook, you can wrap it with whatever casing, or Invisibleshield, it does not affect its heat dispersal method, since plastic does not conduct heat away, and its main approach towards conducting heat away is via the vents.

All I'm saying it I know we all want our beloved portable to be protected from scratches, but sometimes dont realise that by doing so, has detrimental consequences on its intended properties, in this case, its heat dispersal properties.
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:36 PM

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so the film kills the mb/mbp?
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 31 2008, 03:19 PM)
i dun remeber aluminium dispersing heat this way though, but then again, i only had education till primary 6 biggrin.gif
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lol. kidding huh..
anyway, after apply the skin my mbp really get more hotter under xp...
yes, the skin hv good protection.. but 1 thing, will it leave marks too?? bestskinever website stated it wont leave marks on ur mb after u remove the skin... is it true? hmm.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:44 PM

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It may not kill it, but it degrades its heat dispersal efficiency. Your fans will work harder to disperse the heat via convection from the vents due to the trapped heat unable to excape from your wrapped Macbook.

People complain that their MBPs are hot when put on the lap while they work on them, but that heat, IMO, is good, because it is a good sign that your unibody shell is WORKING in conducting the heat using the unibody shell to the surroundings. Just make sure the "surrounding" here is not your delicate thighs/skin. The heat conduction from the metal shell will convect to the volume of air around the shell, and with moving air (either house fan or air conditioning) moving this convected hot air away, the continuous cycle of cooling air helps bring the temperature down.

You see, heat is not a problem to those in temperate countries in the US or Europe, so InvisibleShield works for them without detrimental effects. Here in the tropics, it is already hot and stuffy, and you want to wrap your already hot and stuffy MBP with more stuffier material? Imagine wearing leather jackets in Malaysia, that is how your MBP is feeling right now.
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:44 PM

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marks i dun think so
are u using ur mbp under air conditioned environment?
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 31 2008, 03:44 PM)
It may not kill it, but it degrades its heat dispersal efficiency. Your fans will work harder to disperse the heat via convection from the vents due to the trapped heat unable to excape from your wrapped Macbook.

People complain that their MBPs are hot when put on the lap while they work on them, but that heat, IMO, is good, because it is a good sign that your unibody shell is WORKING in conducting the heat using the unibody shell to the surroundings. Just make sure the "surrounding" here  is not your delicate thighs/skin. The heat conduction from the metal shell will convect to the volume of air around the shell, and with moving air (either house fan or air conditioning) moving this convected hot air away, the continuous cycle of cooling air helps bring the temperature down.

You see, heat is not a problem to those in temperate countries in the US or Europe, so InvisibleShield works for them without detrimental effects. Here in the tropics, it is already hot and stuffy, and you want to wrap your already hot and stuffy MBP with more stuffier material? Imagine wearing leather jackets in Malaysia, that is how your MBP is feeling right now.
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agree... wasted rm100.. lol...


Added on December 31, 2008, 3:53 pm
QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 31 2008, 03:44 PM)
marks i dun think so
are u using ur mbp under air conditioned environment?
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yes.. when gaming (air conditioned environment)
the heat goes up too fast bcoz of weaker heat dispersion cause by the skin and fan speed goes up very slow.. maybe should use smcfancontrol to set the fan speed to 4000rpm b4 start gaming.

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post Dec 31 2008, 04:00 PM

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lucky i dun game tongue.gif

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post Dec 31 2008, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 31 2008, 04:00 PM)
lucky i dun game tongue.gif
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haha. good... i seldom game too... but since mbp hv quite a good gpu, why don try it?? brows.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:08 PM

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i rather game on my PS3 thumbup.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:15 PM

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What do you use your MBP for then, rx330?

Not just for gaming, any graphic or processor intensive application will result in the need for proper heat dispersal. Your wrapped Mac will feel it when that happens.
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 31 2008, 04:15 PM)
What do you use your MBP for then, rx330?

Not just for gaming, any graphic or processor intensive application will result in the need for proper heat dispersal. Your wrapped Mac will feel it when that happens.
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bro, u own a alienware lappy huh? cool... gpu?
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QUOTE(hapa @ Dec 31 2008, 04:17 PM)
bro, u own a alienware lappy huh? cool... gpu?
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512MB 8800M GTX.
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:22 PM

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for normal usage nia, online, email, syncing with the pods/phone and some work related stuff
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 31 2008, 04:20 PM)
512MB 8800M GTX.
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ouch... hv u played RA3? can all the setting maxxed out?
9600 cant...sad...
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 31 2008, 04:22 PM)
for normal usage nia, online, email, syncing with the pods/phone and some work related stuff
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Wouldn't a Macbook Pro be an overkill if all that you do are those things? I assume "work-related stuff" means spreadsheets and word processing, so those wont kill or stress the processor, or the graphic card for that matter. A Macbook would already suffice.

QUOTE(hapa @ Dec 31 2008, 04:23 PM)
ouch... hv u played RA3? can all the setting maxxed out?
9600 cant...sad...
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Yes I have. 1920x1200, all options turned maximum/high. Framerates stays at 30fps no matter what, the game forces it.

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