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Hardware The New MacBook/MacBook Pro Users Thread v3, Share your joy and your pain here

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stringfellow
post Dec 14 2008, 10:55 PM

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Or Apple introducing a whole new segment of a portable/desktop Mac. Macbook Touch or a more powerful Mac Mini? Both would have my purchase consideration.
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:34 PM

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The beauty of aluminium unibody, besides being carved from a single block, is also it helps dispersing heat from conduction through its body to the surrounding air via convection. Your unibody shell acts like a giant heatsink, and wrapping it with any kind of plastic or layers of thin plastic negates this capability or severely degrades it. Sure, everyone wants to protect their beloved purchases, but do so at a common-sensical approach. The white plastic Macbook, you can wrap it with whatever casing, or Invisibleshield, it does not affect its heat dispersal method, since plastic does not conduct heat away, and its main approach towards conducting heat away is via the vents.

All I'm saying it I know we all want our beloved portable to be protected from scratches, but sometimes dont realise that by doing so, has detrimental consequences on its intended properties, in this case, its heat dispersal properties.
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:44 PM

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It may not kill it, but it degrades its heat dispersal efficiency. Your fans will work harder to disperse the heat via convection from the vents due to the trapped heat unable to excape from your wrapped Macbook.

People complain that their MBPs are hot when put on the lap while they work on them, but that heat, IMO, is good, because it is a good sign that your unibody shell is WORKING in conducting the heat using the unibody shell to the surroundings. Just make sure the "surrounding" here is not your delicate thighs/skin. The heat conduction from the metal shell will convect to the volume of air around the shell, and with moving air (either house fan or air conditioning) moving this convected hot air away, the continuous cycle of cooling air helps bring the temperature down.

You see, heat is not a problem to those in temperate countries in the US or Europe, so InvisibleShield works for them without detrimental effects. Here in the tropics, it is already hot and stuffy, and you want to wrap your already hot and stuffy MBP with more stuffier material? Imagine wearing leather jackets in Malaysia, that is how your MBP is feeling right now.
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:15 PM

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What do you use your MBP for then, rx330?

Not just for gaming, any graphic or processor intensive application will result in the need for proper heat dispersal. Your wrapped Mac will feel it when that happens.
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(hapa @ Dec 31 2008, 04:17 PM)
bro, u own a alienware lappy huh? cool... gpu?
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512MB 8800M GTX.
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 31 2008, 04:22 PM)
for normal usage nia, online, email, syncing with the pods/phone and some work related stuff
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Wouldn't a Macbook Pro be an overkill if all that you do are those things? I assume "work-related stuff" means spreadsheets and word processing, so those wont kill or stress the processor, or the graphic card for that matter. A Macbook would already suffice.

QUOTE(hapa @ Dec 31 2008, 04:23 PM)
ouch... hv u played RA3? can all the setting maxxed out?
9600 cant...sad...
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Yes I have. 1920x1200, all options turned maximum/high. Framerates stays at 30fps no matter what, the game forces it.
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 31 2008, 04:32 PM)
well.... the screen size also plays a part, n some other factors
mainly maybe my wife may be using it for her designing courses, if tat happens i will use her early 2008 macbook
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Screen size? You'd save a lot if you picked a Macbook + external LCD combo.

As for your wife's designing courses, I assume that would stress the processor and graphic card much. Wouldn't you worry that your wrapped MBP be stifling hot when doing this?
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(myxery @ Dec 31 2008, 04:42 PM)
you sounded pretty much like an engineer thumbup.gif
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Nope, I still remember my science and physics class lessons in high school. tongue.gif

Although I do deal with heat dispersal and heat induction during my days at work.
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post Dec 31 2008, 04:55 PM

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That changes things, rx330. If the MBP is in London, then wrap her in leather jacket, it will still be cold there. tongue.gif

Just remember the climate change once it changes its geographical location to here. tongue.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(myxery @ Dec 31 2008, 05:11 PM)
high school mana ada ajar conduction / convection heat transfer... tu blajar kat U.. especially for engineers n science students... bleh jd eng la plak string
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Errr, got....or was it A-levels? I think it's during A-levels, but IIANM, the basic principles of heat transfer were taught in high school.

Aku tak habis U bro. Ada advanced diploma jer. tongue.gif

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post Dec 31 2008, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(david888 @ Dec 31 2008, 05:19 PM)
if i'm not mistaken i think it's Form 4 or Form 5 physics subject got those heat related topics and the basic heat transfer calculation.
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There you go. tongue.gif

I'm a lazy ******* when it comes to studying, but thankfully I pay attention during classes.
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post Jan 1 2009, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Dec 31 2008, 06:43 PM)
haha basically String, rx330 got the same principle as me for getting MBP ~
Firstly "Screen" whereas is portable
Secondly better "Graphic card" Watch movie i guess smile.gif
Thirdly "Backlit keyboard (using in the dark after 12am)
Lastly is stated "PRO" biggrin.gif

Although we paying quite high price  but i think worth it, is tat so rx330 biggrin.gif

Hmm...MB + 24" Cinematic lcd? will tat be costly as well? More electric power consumption i guess smile.gif


Added on December 31, 2008, 11:52 pmn Happy new yr to u guys biggrin.gif
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My gist of enquiring his plan to use his MBP stems from the concern about rx330 wrapping his MBP with that InvisibleShield. Heat would not be an issue should he picked a normal Macbook, plus it fits his scale of operation with the things he needs to do. Then his location sort of throws all caution to wind, since the MBP will largely stay in a location which heat would not be much of a problem, compared to our tropical climate.

I agree with the screen asset argument, but watching movies would not require anything more than even the old GMA930 on the old Pre-Santa Rosa Macbook. Backlit keyboards are available on the high-end Macbook, so that is an option if the choice of graphic card is not an issue.

All in all, my concern was the "overkill" factor from the things he would want to do on his MBP. But hey, who am I to say anything? It is after all, our own money. Others may find my decision to get my gaming laptop, an "overkill" as well, but it serves its purpose to me. The same matter may apply to rx330 as well, so with this, I say, use it and use it well! thumbup.gif


Added on January 1, 2009, 1:11 amMy view on things, buy things based on what it can do NOW, not on what it promises in the future, because by the time that promise is fulfilled, there are already better spec-ed laptops available in the market, and at better pricepoint too.

But it on what it can do NOW, and based on what you need it for, at the present.

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post Jan 1 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jan 1 2009, 01:51 PM)
Hi String,

From your post:
im abit confuse, buy it on what it can do now...basically, i'm a windows user for ages never touch Mac OS before, i was very tempting to get an iMac at the first place but since Macrumours mentioned the new released will be out soon in Jan (finger cross) but i need something portable where i travel once a month back to M'sia by bus...so im worrying Spore/JB custom will ask lots of question about electronics stuff bringing in/out.  hmm.gif

So off iMac, then comes to portability, I was thinking MBP but im not a graphic designer cum Multimedia guy  laugh.gif  I "Admire" MBP with larger screen and sharp quality display, althought the Processor/hdd/graphic card + backlit keyboard is the advantage from MB -->MBP with extra RM1300 (comparison from high-end MB --> Base MBP)

My usage just to surf net, watching movies, listening to music n P2P. Another factor i holding back my purchase due to P2P...coz i used to stress my laptop 24/7  rolleyes.gif but it can survive for close to 5 yrs now. So i might worry MBP suffer from "internal bleeding"  wink.gif

After reading your post regarding MBA, i love the concept u wrote it there.... smile.gif although MBA only comes with 1USB i still okie with it...but it started again...the old model or the new model MBA? Well...i know the MB/MBA will be good for portability and carrying around n the price tag is not as high as MBP would consider it as well.

For the picture quality indeed MBP wins.. an excuse for me to get it but i only left it stationary at home for most of the time. 

And another thing by watching movies under .mkv/ rmvb/ .avi how is the graphic card utilization with nVidia 9600?
Will the graphic card enhanced the colour boost for movies?

Basically, spending a huge amount of money into things that  i don’t really utilize it is kind of wasted.  nod.gif  I agree with that  biggrin.gif
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What I meant by "buy it based on what it can do now, not what it promises in the future" is that futureproofing does not work based on placing high-specs on a laptop and hoping it would last you longer than buying a laptop with a specs that you need and upgrade as necessary later in the future.

Based on your usage, a Macbook works fine. I myself have a Merom White Macbook 2.16Ghz that has been relegated into a desktop of sort, running 24/7 for almost a year now, this is my workhorse, and it has not failed me one bit. I've stressed her much by ripping DVDs , while tagging the ones that I'm done with using MetaX, at the same time opening a couple of windows of Safari, and listening to iTunes, as well as streaming that to my Apple TV at the same time. IT just works, which shows you don't need the Macbook Pro, unless you need the specs that Pro offers to do professional-grade work. Hell, I've even stretched his old Macbook to the limit by doing Final Cut Express video-edits!

Picture quality, yes, the MBP wins hands down, although if you do look at the comparison shots, Macbook Pro and Macbook Air is neck and neck. If you are leaning towards MBA, get Revision B, a.k.a the second gen. First-gen although fixed with SMC updates from Apple, do still tend to overheat and shuts one core down, unless I ran Coolbook .
It does not make any difference watching movies while running on discrete or integrated graphic card, they all look the same. The GMA950 itself have proven to be able to run HD movies on Quicktime, so it is capable. SO now the question remains, what are you getting the MBP for? If it is portable screen size, then Apple basically have your hands tied, you have no choice but to get the MBP. But if you are getting it under the notion that the MBP plays better movies, it does not. As for better screen quality, that depends on what you can live with. I chose not to burden myself with a heavy laptop, at a size that is not convenient for me to carry around. All that power under the hood would be wasted for the activities that I would do, so MBA is perfect for my daily usage.
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post Jan 3 2009, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jan 3 2009, 02:10 AM)
tak pa la, computer you always wont use for whole life
can use up to 3 years will do


Added on January 3, 2009, 2:17 am
Bluray? i bet you wont use it. cuz review back youself, how many original DVD you buy b4? if none, then i hardly see the way to go into bluray world

Acer quality? crap! I was acer user b4
another thing, i have a fren using almost same acer as you describe, bluray, 16", battery life like crap! 1 hours, that's all!
screen viewing angle is shxx! maybe you can go to understand why ACER does make cheap laptop, and what kind of component quality they use.
and it's very very very heavy, make you dont even thinking of bring everywhere

you rather go for Sony Vaio FW instead
http://www.sonystyle.com.my/product/produc...bcategoryid=184
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The question here is not whether you would use Blu-ray or buy original Blu-rays, but a question of choice. Even if Apple decline to support Blu-ray (or its playback), at least provide the option as a BTO. Otherwise, you'll see people who uses Apple/Mac OS X resorting to playing .mkv files, most probably pirated/ripped from original Blu-ray contents. Is Apple encouragng piracy?

The Apple I know supports and embraces emerging technologies. Blu-ray fits into that description. What happened?
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post Apr 17 2009, 01:33 PM

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Unibody construction on Macbook Air helps it survive a plane crash.

This is for all those doubters who think that the Air is fragile and/or easily snap in two just because of its thin looks. Suck it! rclxms.gif
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post Apr 18 2009, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Mizo @ Apr 18 2009, 10:48 AM)
Yea, Breakin News in forum
But juz nw i found out
tat tis macbook belongs to one of the passenger onboard turkish airway
Tis incident happen on Feb 2009
The passenger suffer from broken neck n nid serious surgery to be able to walk again
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Apr 17 2009, 01:33 PM)
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-----> Unibody construction on Macbook Air helps it survive a plane crash. <-----

This is for all those doubters who think that the Air is fragile and/or easily snap in two just because of its thin looks. Suck it! rclxms.gif
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For the love of God, the link to read about that snippet of an info is on that link I marked -----> <-----. There is a reason why some sentences are red in color, they want you to click them to find out further. Nothing breaking here, not the news, not anything, ....but perhaps that guy's neck.doh.gif

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post Apr 19 2009, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Apr 19 2009, 03:04 AM)
Hi anyone kind enough to lend me their leopard installation cd?i will pay if needed to.thanks
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you'll have to be careful on which Leopard installation DVD you would need. If this is meant for Macbook Unibody (MB Alu, MB Pro Alu, new Macbook Air Rev.B), their Leopard installation DVDs are unique to them. I had an older Leopard DVD that comes with a White Macbook circa 2007, that will not work with my new MBA, nor will the Leopard installation DVD on my MBA work on the White Macbook.

You will have to specify on which model of Mac(model and year) you intend to install this on.
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post May 1 2009, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(diwan jamil @ May 1 2009, 11:51 AM)
how about malay songs?  brows.gif
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Unless there is a database of these songs that apps like these can tap into, it would have to be manual entry I think.

Been looking at your posts since you won my Macbook, I see that you're getting active in the Mac section and really getting behind your new Mac purchase, good on you bro! I trust my Macbook is satisfactory for your daily usage? smile.gif

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