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 [Discussion] How to Improve the iPhone Forums?, Serious Discussion. Please Contribute.

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TripleH
post Dec 28 2008, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(chinamobile @ Dec 28 2008, 01:51 AM)
bro student become sifu 1 day.
And hopefully they will stay and contribute.

about the pinned thread

if you have zero idea about iPhone
reading the title of the pin may not give a clear direction.
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QUOTE(chinamobile @ Dec 28 2008, 01:59 AM)
i have been to some forum. new member

my first visit to a certain room .

there was a pop up.

directing to list of pin thread with more then 2 line details.
more like a summary of the threads.
which i find was
very helpful
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Yes..some forums does that but i don't think this will be implemented here at all.

If i'm zero in knowing the iPhone, then i do my homework by reading the pinned thread kan? Also, the pinned thread is not that hard to read and all in English ma. How can one not get a clear direction leh on reading pinned thread?

This is not hard to read lor..

[GUIDE] Malaysia iPhone User Guide (MiPUG) The self learning and self help resource

[GUIDE] iPhone Purchase Guide - Your road to iPhone Ownership

Pwnagetool/Quickpwn(Mac & Win) & 3G Unlock »2G/3G Fw 2.2 Unlocking & Jailbreaking«

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post Dec 28 2008, 05:48 PM

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Chinamobile, a super good example of a senior not reading pinned thread lor.. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/889028

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/876169

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davidgary73
post Mar 10 2009, 03:52 PM

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Hey guys, just bring this thread up to ask some questions regarding minor improvement in the forum.

1) Is the pinned thread helpful or too cluttered? Which pinned thread you think is not relevant?

2) Which you prefer for new open thread?

a) Close thread or merge it to relevant topic/thread?

b) New threads that needs answers will be left open till TS finds one. If answers provided by forumers helped TS to troubleshoot, thread will be given 1-6hrs of grace period to close by TS and a pm will be send to TS, asking to close the thread. Forumers can ask TS to close thread immediately. If TS fail to close after the grace period, the thread will be close by mods. Is this fine with you guys? Need longer grace period?

3) Do we need a Rules and Regulation post/Thread? Don't have to be a thread in itself as i can post it in one of the pinned threads. Suggestions?

Do suggest your ideas and see how we can go about making slight changes to this forum. If you have other suggestions to improve the forum, do chip in.

Thanks

Cheers

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post Mar 10 2009, 04:17 PM

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gotta have a standard rules that over rule everything regarding the sub-section. ie. no cracked apps discussion

pinned threads are too crowded d.
me thinks everything should be taken down except for
Please README BEFORE POSTING
iPhone Tips 'n' Tricks
[GUIDE] Malaysia iPhone User Guide (MiPUG)
[GUIDE] iPhone Purchase Guide

and take down the mod announcement as well, thats sufficient for three days laugh.gif
i'm gonna close it now
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post Mar 10 2009, 05:01 PM

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Very cool. Thanks Hanxz. Took down Winterboard and the "unnessasary" thread.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

As for the Apps reviews, they seems to be useful unless majority vote to unpin them. Do let me know if it stays pin or unpin.
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post Mar 10 2009, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ Mar 10 2009, 04:17 PM)
gotta have a standard rules that over rule everything regarding the sub-section. ie. no cracked apps discussion

pinned threads are too crowded d.
me thinks everything should be taken down except for
Please README BEFORE POSTING
iPhone Tips 'n' Tricks
[GUIDE] Malaysia iPhone User Guide (MiPUG)
[GUIDE] iPhone Purchase Guide

and take down the mod announcement as well, thats sufficient for three days laugh.gif
i'm gonna close it now
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kinda agreed with what bro Hanxz suggest. but i've some to add.

1. apps review can stay but i think most would resort to getting reviews from other sites and they are more updated. that's what i usually do.


2. iPhone exist as an sub-section of a forum rather than a thread on itself, unlike those in Phone-Specific Discussion. therefore, creation of new topics should be allowed actually. agree with the implementation of this:

b) New threads that needs answers will be left open till TS finds one. If answers provided by forumers helped TS to troubleshoot, thread will be given 1-6hrs of grace period to close by TS and a pm will be send to TS, asking to close the thread. Forumers can ask TS to close thread immediately. If TS fail to close after the grace period, the thread will be close by mods. Is this fine with you guys? Need longer grace period?

3. topics like these should be left in normal discussion thread rather than always pop out as a topic on its own:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/960207
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/960198

4. this is needed to educate forumers and newbies on how things work here:

3) Do we need a Rules and Regulation post/Thread? Don't have to be a thread in itself as i can post it in one of the pinned threads. Suggestions?

This post has been edited by teikwing: Mar 10 2009, 05:47 PM
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post Mar 10 2009, 06:05 PM

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hi, lemme give my opinion...

i'm a noob when it comes to iphone. Just got one 2 months ago. Before i even bought the iphone i started reading the pinned threads by maverick wil namely the iphone purchase guide and the MiPUG.
I would like to thank Maverick and also some of the seniors here who spent time creating and maintaining these pinned threads...
by reading those threads i got a better idea of what i was getting and most of my questions were answered in those thread itself!

I believe for many of us we buy the iphone for normal daily use. Not many of us will really go all out on modding the iphone especially if u're a newbie, so how hard can it be to find the general answers in the pinned thread? And i'm sure if u're into modding diff aspects of ur phone u're not the only one and certainly not the 1st one, most of the time somebody will have already covered it in the discussion section right? a simple search will give u ample information.. and if finally u really can't find the answer i'm sure nobody's gonna flame u for opening a new thread...

I think that most of the important information like differences between 2G/3G iphone, setting up itunes acc, caller ID fix, custom ringtones and sms tones, transfering video to youe phone etc have all been answered in the pinned threads... I had those questions in my mind even b4 i bought the iphone and i found the thread very useful and not too hard to follow.
Anyway i think my conclusion is: Getting an iphone in Malaysia is a little bit complicated coz it's not really officially available here so of coz it needs a little bit of tweaking to make it more usable over here. So i think if you want to use this good piece of technology from Apple it wouldn't hurt for you to do some homework beforehand...

that's it for now... keep up the good work!
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Mar 10 2009, 05:45 PM)
kinda agreed with what bro Hanxz suggest. but i've some to add.

1. apps review can stay but i think most would resort to getting reviews from other sites and they are more updated. that's what i usually do.
2. iPhone exist as an sub-section of a forum rather than a thread on itself, unlike those in Phone-Specific Discussion. therefore, creation of new topics should be allowed actually. agree with the implementation of this:

b) New threads that needs answers will be left open till TS finds one. If answers provided by forumers helped TS to troubleshoot, thread will be given 1-6hrs of grace period to close by TS and a pm will be send to TS, asking to close the thread. Forumers can ask TS to close thread immediately. If TS fail to close after the grace period, the thread will be close by mods. Is this fine with you guys? Need longer grace period?

3. topics like these should be left in normal discussion thread rather than always pop out as a topic on its own:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/960207
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/960198

4. this is needed to educate forumers and newbies on how things work here:

3) Do we need a Rules and Regulation post/Thread? Don't have to be a thread in itself as i can post it in one of the pinned threads. Suggestions?
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Taken down apps/games reviews as we do resort to outside sources.

For new threads, some threads will be left open till solution is found but for some simple thread, merging to related thread would be a good option.

As for rules and regulations, a thread by it self or a post in one of the pinned threads? For example http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

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1st question thou.... how can we make the people (especially) the new forumers to read the pinned thread....

lately ive seen lots of repeated questions and never close it when they got an answer....

if we can make this new forumers read the sticky thread... then we can go to another phase...

thats my comment lah....,

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post Mar 10 2009, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 10 2009, 06:09 PM)
1st question thou.... how can we make the people (especially) the new forumers to read the pinned thread....

lately ive seen lots of repeated questions and never close it when they got an answer....

if we can make this new forumers read the sticky thread... then we can go to another phase...

thats my comment lah....,
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In a forum like this, there will be boundless opinions and different ways of looking at things.

One quick way, attempt at least, to alleviate repeated questions is to have categories pinned for forumers to go to when putting up a thread/post. Examples would be Software, Hardware, etc., etc.

Don't know whether this will help cut out the repeated queries and cluttered threads but anyone wanting to ask a pertinent question relating to say Software would/should logically read up what were posted first before doing so and if the answer is already there then he/she would not need to anymore.

This also encourages people to read/search as they can just zoom in to the topic of query which would then be less of a hassle.

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 10 2009, 06:09 PM)
1st question thou.... how can we make the people (especially) the new forumers to read the pinned thread....

lately ive seen lots of repeated questions and never close it when they got an answer....

if we can make this new forumers read the sticky thread... then we can go to another phase...

thats my comment lah....,
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We can never stop people from opening threads. Some just don't read. Hard to make people read when they prefer not.

As for new threads, you can either ignore the thread or give your comments. thumbup.gif Or you can report them.

Another way is to let it go down the post till next page. If the thread has no answers in 24hrs, i'll close it or merge it in iPhone Club v8. What you guys think?


Added on March 10, 2009, 6:53 pm
QUOTE(PeeEl @ Mar 10 2009, 06:30 PM)
In a forum like this, there will be boundless opinions and different ways of looking at things.

One quick way, attempt at least, to alleviate repeated questions is to have categories pinned for forumers to go to when putting up a thread/post. Examples would be Software, Hardware, etc., etc.

Don't know whether this will help cut out the repeated queries and cluttered threads but anyone wanting to ask a pertinent question relating to say Software would/should logically read up what were posted first before doing so and if the answer is already there then he/she would not need to anymore.

This also encourages people to read/search as they can just zoom in to the topic of query which would then be less of a hassle.
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Indeed a great idea with the Software and Hardware thread. With the [GUIDE] Malaysia iPhone User Guide (MiPUG), most infos required are in there. We made it for this subforum and forumers to refer to.

But..i'm afraid it won't work well when we have hardware and software pinned threads. Forumers will still open new thread and skip the pinned threads. We have seen it happen all the time..hahaha. Proven too many times.

For example like how to sync video, it really easy only when one takes the time to find how to go about it may it be via google or read the User iPhone Manual. As we know, we are impatient peeps and need answers fast. So new thread suface for fast/quick fix. But don't worry, we can close them after the answers are available to them. Just more work for mods rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Mar 10 2009, 06:30 PM)
We can never stop people from opening threads. Some just don't read. Hard to make people read when they prefer not.

As for new threads, you can either ignore the thread or give your comments.  thumbup.gif Or you can report them.

Another way is to let it go down the post till next page. If the thread has no answers in 24hrs, i'll close it or merge it in iPhone Club v8. What you guys think?


Added on March 10, 2009, 6:53 pm

Indeed a great idea with the Software and Hardware thread. With the [GUIDE] Malaysia iPhone User Guide (MiPUG), most infos required are in there. We made it for this subforum and forumers to refer to.

But..i'm afraid it won't work well when we have hardware and software pinned threads. Forumers will still open new thread and skip the pinned threads. We have seen it happen all the time..hahaha. Proven too many times.

For example like how to sync video, it really easy only when one takes the time to find how to go about it may it be via google or read the User iPhone Manual. As we know, we are impatient peeps and need answers fast. So new thread suface for fast/quick fix. But don't worry, we can close them after the answers are available to them. Just more work for mods  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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i like that idea.... since like davidgray73 said do make sense.... if the mod think its informative then they can just merge it on the iphone club question... or if its a repeated question... just close it....

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The absence of a moderator before this has allowed a lot of non constructive posts. I worry that it is only a matter of time before post counts are not taken into account anymore in this sub forum.
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QUOTE(allornothing @ Mar 11 2009, 12:46 AM)
The absence of a moderator before this has allowed a lot of non constructive posts. I worry that it is only a matter of time before post counts are not taken into account anymore in this sub forum.
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