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 Chinaman company, what does it means?

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post Jul 25 2011, 08:16 AM

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one leg kicking, get two three files when he asks for one, think of years later when he asks for weeks, always yes and no no
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post Jul 25 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 10 2010, 10:59 PM)
i've known of some "ang moh" bosses that ask their staff why are they still around if she sees them after 6pm. and asks them to go home. smile.gif and yes, in Malaysia.
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Mine did that recently... "I don't want you to stay back at the office until the night comes" icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 25 2011, 12:24 PM

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i also working in chinaman company...it is really cb boss..
- damn a lot multitask
- no bonus
- clock in style > must be punctually reach to office, if late will have RM20 punishment
- boss voice out to us for not happy we leave the office punctually
- Change working time easily
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post Jul 25 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Lone46 @ Jul 25 2011, 12:24 PM)
i also working in chinaman company...it is really cb boss..
- damn a lot multitask
- no bonus
- clock in style > must be punctually reach to office, if late will have RM20 punishment
- boss voice out to us for not happy we leave the office punctually
- Change working time easily
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Bad boss, but that is the way they make $$$. But unhappy employees. vmad.gif

If you able to find other jobs, i support you to jump.
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post Jul 25 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 25 2011, 12:30 PM)
Bad boss, but that is the way they make $$$. But unhappy employees.  vmad.gif

If you able to find other jobs, i support you to jump.
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Yeah~ he really earn a lot of money...he just bought new Honda Accord...
No paid us bonus due to our performance drop...

cb boss forever...
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post Jul 25 2011, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Jul 2 2011, 11:32 AM)
Characteristics of chinaman companies:-

1) Still using Pentium 3 PC with CRT monitor
2) Usually family based company
3) Low salary and benefits and bosses are calculative
4) Usually need to work on Saturdays
5) Company's carpet have not been changed for the past 10 years
6) Chinese or cantonese is the standard communication language around the company.
7) Your boss sucks in English grammer and vocabularly
8) Usually have a Chinese praying alter at the front of the company compound.
9) Your boss would rather keep a 2-3 dogs to safeguard the company instead of hiring a security guard or investing in security devices bcos it is cheaper.
10) Using punch card to take attendance instead of access cards or biometric devices.
11) Company's assets 80% mostly RM1 NBV
12) Salary release date normally is the 5th to 7th of the following month for last month's salary.

That's all I can think off rite now bcos I have previously worked in a Chinaman company before for 5 mths, then now joinned a MNC. The environment totally different.
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aiks.. i also work in chinaman company...and not even pentium3 , pentiun 700++ something?
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post Jul 25 2011, 10:18 PM

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I've been to this Quantity Surveyor's office in PJ and boy the place surprises me.

The roof of the place is like 7 feet tall, there's only one old P3 with dialup at a corner. No wonder cannot email stuff to them. Heck they even passed a floppy disk, even at 2011.

I was there to send stuff, and I saw this auntie typing on an electric typewriter. I never seen one in years, till then.

I suppose the low pay problem is caused by the bigger Chinamen (Genting, KLK, Berjaya) squeezing the smaller Chinamen (contractors and consultants), thus resulting in smaller pay. Then the workers suffer for it.

As an example, in Urban Planning, the Planners Association mandate that fees for a project be about RM500K ish for large developments. But since big Chinamen squeeze consultants, its pretty lucky to get RM 30K.

Figures are for an example, but the monetary disparity is real.

This post has been edited by seatux: Jul 25 2011, 10:19 PM
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post Jul 25 2011, 11:53 PM

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long working hrs,work like slave,and confirm u r not happy inside this kind of companies
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post Aug 18 2011, 04:36 PM

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i so co-incidentally work in a chinaman company....

coz its quite hard to get a job other places in Perak in my field, any suggestion how to report if my bosses never give me a day of annual leave?

Can i report to the labour office??

Its been 3 years i trap here n never had a day off =( .... I WANT THEM TO PAY BACK!!!!!!!!!!
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post Aug 18 2011, 04:55 PM

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wah....REPORT lo...wonder how u survive inside
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post Aug 18 2011, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(night1218 @ Aug 18 2011, 04:55 PM)
wah....REPORT lo...wonder how u survive inside
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Everyday is like a nightmare!!
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post Aug 18 2011, 05:39 PM

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china man means objective driven company, all you do is work. chill also cannot everything cannot. most important element is the company not YOU. And they are the most important element so they get higher pay and benefit, you get to work smile.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 06:48 PM

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1 more thing is OT is like compulsory with no claim..
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post Aug 18 2011, 06:57 PM

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i thought chinaman as a company name....
but not all of china boss like that

some even consider about their employees
employees is human,have life too,not some machine

the worst you can get is scolding.then again dont make them mad although on certain occasion ,they are mad without reason

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post Aug 19 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(axis_lua @ Aug 18 2011, 05:39 PM)
china man means objective driven company, all you do is work. chill also cannot everything cannot.  most important element is the company not YOU. And they are the most important element so they get higher pay and benefit, you get to work smile.gif
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chinaman company is totally no objective. wat u get is work, work work!!

when all ur work under ur job scope is done, they ask u to do another person job, when u rest a while for a tea break, they ask u if ur work is done, even when its done they add other peoples work into ur table which is not ur expertise.....if u do it with some minor mistake, they scold u tat u never follow their way,

if u met some bosses like this, pls quit after 24 hours, or else ur world will be a miserable one

and there will be no break, no rest, no lunch, no facebook, no raise n no annual leave forever!!

LETS BAN CHINAMAN BOSSES!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(adamccc @ Aug 19 2011, 02:38 PM)
and there will be no break, no rest, no lunch, no facebook, no raise n no annual leave forever!!
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i have seen plenty surfing facebook during working time, which they havent even finish their daily task.
sometime they wont just cherish the freedom that given by the company, yet, abuse
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post Aug 19 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Treepex @ Aug 19 2011, 02:57 PM)
i have seen plenty surfing facebook during working time, which they havent even finish their daily task.
sometime they wont just cherish the freedom that given by the company, yet, abuse
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What you said is more less a typical chinaman's mind.

Simillar to my company, one chinaman boss complaint about staff opening facebook duirng working hours to HR. Now can't use facebook, even our personal email because of him. He himself not in his office, wandering outside office, when we need him there.
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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Aug 19 2011, 03:11 PM)
What you said is more less a typical chinaman's mind.
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i do not think that abusing your freedom to use facebook is acceptable in the workplace.


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post Aug 19 2011, 04:34 PM

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if facebook is not work or business related, it is the company's right to stop the employee using it. i don't think there is anything wrong on this.
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post Aug 19 2011, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Treepex @ Aug 19 2011, 02:57 PM)
i have seen plenty surfing facebook during working time, which they havent even finish their daily task.
sometime they wont just cherish the freedom that given by the company, yet, abuse
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The staff will complain to say that :

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surfing in between is their time to relax / take a break. In current generation working environment, work + play comes together.  rolleyes.gif they say they can't be working and thinking for 8 hours a day, and yet they want to leave on the dot when half the time is spent on FB, YT, LYN, IM chat, etc. cool.gif 


Go figure rclxub.gif


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