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TSIEE
post Dec 1 2008, 10:24 PM, updated 18y ago

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My friend keep telling dun go to chinaman company to work.I also dun know what is that.
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post Dec 1 2008, 10:34 PM

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That means don't work for a company where all the man come from China.
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post Dec 1 2008, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(JoLee @ Dec 1 2008, 10:34 PM)
That means don't work for a company where all the man come from China.
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hahaha.. what a good explanation
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:29 PM

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cool answer - but c'mon la. let's be serious.

basically they're referring to those company where the management style is CHINESE - meaning all about $$$$$ work long hours and so on so forth.

that's my understanding of it la. oh yeah and quite often characterized by heavy chinese influence and having most, if not all Chinese staff BUT not necessarily so.

it all depends on da boss. biggrin.gif but then , best get your friend to explain what they mean cos everyone has their definition and boundaries.
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:34 PM

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in a simple of explaining it

a company who follows the chinese methodology of running a business by squeezing every employee till last drop by paying them peanuts
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(IEE @ Dec 1 2008, 10:24 PM)
My friend keep telling dun go to chinaman company to work.I also dun know what is that.
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Chinaman company definition are referring to employer/boss whom treat staff like shxt and pay peanut... Also, employer/boss that likes and reward shoe licker people only
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:57 PM

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China man company means...every thing labor law only, u never get extra....

For eg:

5 & 1/2 days per week

10 public holidays instead of follow calender one..

Bonus "depands" on "management's discretion"

No dental, no coorparate parking, medical limited to RM 30 per month & etc & etc.........

And the untimate weapon during interview...the boss said " I tell you what, the pay (the peanut) I offer you is very high already for your position....(with those peanuts u can handle ur living well enough already)........

Hahaha....sorry, I don't mean these for those really kind & gentlemen bosses out there, but I really experienced all these on my own... sweat.gif
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(cfng76 @ Dec 1 2008, 11:57 PM)
China man company means...every thing labor law only, u never get extra....

For eg:

5 & 1/2 days per week

10 public holidays instead of follow calender one..

Bonus "depands" on "management's discretion"

No dental, no coorparate parking, medical limited to RM 30 per month & etc & etc.........

And the untimate weapon during interview...the boss said " I tell you what, the pay (the peanut) I offer you is very high already for your position....(with those peanuts u can handle ur living well enough already)........

Hahaha....sorry, I don't mean these for those really kind & gentlemen bosses out there, but I really experienced all these on my own... sweat.gif
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Hahaha,
I think from all the explanations, I think this is nearest unless new example crop in.

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post Dec 2 2008, 12:01 AM

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haha chinaman company those bosses veli calculative. i heard a fren of mine deal wif his boss from hong kong really kira kao kao.
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post Dec 2 2008, 12:05 AM

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Means if the boss pays you RM2k salary, he plans to suck you out
by pressure you to work worth more than RM20k. Suck till you dry.. smile.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Dec 1 2008, 11:34 PM)
in a simple of explaining it

a company who follows the chinese methodology of running a business by squeezing every employee till last drop by paying them peanuts
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AGREE and SUPPORT your STATEMENT ALL THE WAY..

sorry for caps smile.gif

QUOTE(yen1022 @ Dec 2 2008, 12:01 AM)
haha chinaman company those bosses veli calculative. i heard a fren of mine deal wif his boss from hong kong really kira kao kao.
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ahhahaa.. then you should see singapore's one.. its even worst...

the worst chinaman company is OT = no extra pay

chinaman company the worst, but chinaman company survive long times smile.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 12:08 AM

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chinaman are famous for kiamsiap (stingy) ... even local companies are better than them
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post Dec 2 2008, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(wister @ Dec 2 2008, 12:05 AM)
Means if the boss pays you RM2k salary, he plans to suck you out
by pressure you to work worth more than RM20k. Suck till you dry.. smile.gif
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partly true...

usually chinaman company will hire you pay you 2k... while you do 3 persons job...

while a MNC will hire 3 person give each person 2k for the job..

so in away chinaman company policy is

12 hours a day..

6 days a week

medical no claim, you sick its your problem not company...cause its you who is sick not company..

travel/parking own pay, why should i pay you to come to work....

leave is very very difficult to apply....
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post Dec 2 2008, 12:09 AM

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is it chinaman company == company boss from china? or all the boss which is chinese? haha.... not all chinaman company bad 1 la...sure got some exception 1...depend on ur luck
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QUOTE(ykc @ Dec 2 2008, 12:08 AM)
chinaman are famous for kiamsiap (stingy) ... even local companies are better than them
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aren't local company considered chinaman company in terms of style.. even though they are local chinese ?
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post Dec 2 2008, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(red_scorpion @ Dec 2 2008, 12:09 AM)
is it chinaman company == company boss from china? or all the boss which is chinese? haha.... not all chinaman company bad 1 la...sure got some exception 1...depend on ur luck
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The boss is chinese.....not from china..


Added on December 2, 2008, 12:16 am
QUOTE(JinXXX @ Dec 2 2008, 12:09 AM)
aren't local company considered chinaman company in terms of style.. even though they are local chinese ?
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Maybe he refer to those local owned company with western or those days ppl call it "modern" management style. hmm.gif

This post has been edited by cfng76: Dec 2 2008, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(cfng76 @ Dec 2 2008, 12:14 AM)
The boss is chinese.....not from china..
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the term chinaman is cause.. chinese comes from china.. and on a basic level all chinese type of business follow the same

chinese/china style of business

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post Dec 2 2008, 10:23 AM

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Imagine you are the Chinaman boss.... U will oso want to squeeze ur staff till dry by paying them peanuts but in return able to maximise your returns.

C'mon la, we are all chinaman.... who dunwan "yi ben wan li" = means cost is RM1 but margin is RM10,000.
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post Dec 2 2008, 10:28 AM

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Guy, please do not mislead our fellow members here.

A typical chinaman company will have a structure whereby most of their employees, especially higher level mgmt consist of majority chinese. But that doesn't means they're chinaman company either.

They will have the following characteristic as well:

1] Usually they can override all the policy they've set before.

2] Usually they are very calculative, especially in term of pay, bonus and allowances.

3] They do not favour work-and-life balance kind of things.

4] Usually the company will set lots of rules that's unfavourable to employees.

I guess that's all.
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post Dec 2 2008, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Dec 2 2008, 10:28 AM)
Guy, please do not mislead our fellow members here.

A typical chinaman company will have a structure whereby most of their employees, especially higher level mgmt consist of majority chinese. But that doesn't means they're chinaman company either.

They will have the following characteristic as well:

1] Usually they can override all the policy they've set before.

2] Usually they are very calculative, especially in term of pay, bonus and allowances.

3] They do not favour work-and-life balance kind of things.

4] Usually the company will set lots of rules that's unfavourable to employees.

I guess that's all.
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5] Employees 70% = freshgrad or worked not longer than 2 years.

6] Organize some event for employees and expect (froce) employees to pay half for the event they organized.

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