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vostro78
post Sep 26 2011, 12:40 PM

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nto all china men company are bad... some are good also. once most of the chinamen company will not able to offer good package compare to others MNC...
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post Sep 26 2011, 03:32 PM

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Chinaman offered salary package is competitive at certain stage compare to MNC. A chinaman will never afford to pay a manager @ 10k above but MNC will able to pay which I refering to basic salary. In chinaman, they may give u commision, bonus, and company car and which ur salary have a limit to go up. If u have luck, the best is chinaman allow u to be their partner(director).
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QUOTE(Rukhster @ Sep 26 2011, 09:43 PM)
Work for chinese in chinaman:

1. Damn bloody calculative. 1 paper clip missing from office will cause a huge issue.
2. Everything will be counted e.g time spent in toilet, buy food etc.
3. Everything will be monitored e.g cannot even sufr internet for 5 minutes.
4. Work like a dog till u die.
Then stop being a dog and get a better job. Easy, problem solved.

Unless of course, a dog's the best you can be.

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post Sep 26 2011, 09:53 PM

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The reason this chinaman so calculative is because every single cents is their own money, as compare to MNCnthe top management mostly do not own the company unless they are holding directorship.
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post Oct 15 2011, 10:12 AM

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one thing I hate about chinaman company is "Family"!

they tend to bring in their family members into the organization regardless their expertise and ruined the whole thing
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post Oct 15 2011, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(frequency @ Oct 15 2011, 10:12 AM)
one thing I hate about chinaman company is "Family"!

they tend to bring in their family members into the organization regardless their expertise and ruined the whole thing
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What's wrong with bringing in family members to work in their company? The purpose of bringing them in is to train them up so that they can take over the business in the near future. Of course whether they have the ability/ expertise to succeed is another story.
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post Oct 15 2011, 12:47 PM

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Oh... I thought if boss not in office, no work gets done. Boss is management, hr, finance, handyman and such. Everything also do himself and don't know how to arrange staff resources for his share of work load. Something like that la... So pay and claim is late, whatever spoil didn't get fixed because the boss forgot about it etc etc...
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QUOTE(frequency @ Oct 15 2011, 10:12 AM)
one thing I hate about chinaman company is "Family"!

they tend to bring in their family members into the organization regardless their expertise and ruined the whole thing
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Do your neighbours hate you because you only buy toys for your own kids but not theirs? Did your classmates hate you because your grandfather left his wealth to you but not them?
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post Dec 27 2012, 12:27 PM

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They will have the following characteristic as well:

1] Usually they can override all the policy they've set before.

2] Usually they are very calculative, especially in term of pay, bonus and allowances.

3] They do not favour work-and-life balance kind of things.

4] Usually the company will set lots of rules that's unfavourable to employees.

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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Dec 27 2012, 01:22 PM)
Nothing is wrong bringing family member to work in their own company but the family member must start from zero without any special privilege.

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This hardly happens in a chinaman family oriented company.
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post Dec 27 2012, 01:43 PM

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the chinaman company is mostly family-oriented..

not all companies that are calculative and stingy run by chinese...

and not all chinese men run calculative and stingy companies

it's a classic fault
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:12 PM

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the only phrase can be applied in this case..


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post Dec 28 2012, 03:22 PM

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Chinaman company sux. That's sums all.

I will neverever go back to it again. But definitely if you want to gain some massive experience from 1 leg kicking and dun mind being paid peanut, go for it during the early stage of your career for a year or 2, will benefit you.
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post Dec 28 2012, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Oct 15 2011, 12:47 PM)
Do your neighbours hate you because you only buy toys for your own kids but not theirs? Did your classmates hate you because your grandfather left his wealth to you but not them?
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Agreed. It is common that chinaman company owner will bring in their family members so that they can get gear up. Nothing is wrong here if the company is a family business. Family comes first ma.

But on d other side, yeah some chinaman company really sucky and calculative (etc want cheap rate but expect to be done fast & increment, bonus and allowances). They don't really mind you quit the job as they can always find others that is willing to replace.
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worst impression of chinaman company, got worm inside water filter..too dirty nobody bother to clean up!
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post Dec 31 2012, 05:55 PM

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Why no one mentioned cannot wear shoes in office? Got carpet or not also cannot wear shoes. Everyone barefoot. So unprofessional and ugly look.
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post Jan 1 2013, 09:45 AM

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the management skills are very sucks. they dont bother on training, safety or whatsoever
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post Jan 1 2013, 01:25 PM

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They more focus on gain profit and company performance as it is the basic reason you run a business right? Yes, I agree some of chinaman do not really particular on employee welfare (same goes to other race company), but most of company / business run in Malaysia are by them and a lot of people out there depend on their business to gain income. If family, I believe some other company out there also practise same things. Hence, it is normal.

For my past experience, it's really valuable and useful for me in when joining new industries. Learn many things. And we always will look for better prospect. It is all about "do you know how to work and survive". Try to run you own business and see how well you manage it. smile.gif

If you do not like working in there, just find other places. Me feel the same way during early period of working. But it does nothing unless you take your own step or do something. But difficult to say if yourself want to change the whole company system right? So, just find other place if you feel you cannot work any longer in there. If you cannot find other way, then just continue working as it is what we've paid for (unless you can survive without own income). my two cents:p

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This post has been edited by nash9701: Jan 1 2013, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Jan 1 2013, 01:25 PM)
They more focus on gain profit and company performance as it is the basic reason you run a business right? Yes, I agree some of chinaman do not really particular on employee welfare (same goes to other race company), but most of company / business run in Malaysia are by them and a lot of people out there depend on their business to gain income. If family, I believe some other company out there also practise same things. Hence, it is normal.

For my past experience, it's really valuable and useful for me in when joining new industries. Learn many things. And we always will look for better prospect. It is all about "do you know how to work and survive". Try to run you own business and see how well you manage it. smile.gif

If you do not like working in there, just find other places. Me feel the same way during early period of working. But it does nothing unless you take your own step or do something. But difficult to say if yourself want to change the whole company system right? So, just find other place if you feel you cannot work any longer in there. If you cannot find other way, then just continue working as it is what we've paid for (unless you can survive without own income). my two cents:p

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post Jan 1 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(hercules899 @ Jan 1 2013, 05:26 PM)
All i can say is your English is veli power.
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r u joking? haha, but as long as the message delivered.

This post has been edited by nash9701: Jan 1 2013, 10:34 PM

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