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Buying Advice Wanna buy New Camera? Undecided which to choose?V2, ASK HERE! Dont create a thread elsewhere

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joyyy	Jan 7 2009, 07:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #61
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(phylem_hao @ Jan 7 2009, 06:16 PM) @joyyy, thanks. @TheWandererX, I have shortlisted my list to D60 and D80 now. Might come back with more questions about these 2 models. Btw, where can I post those questions like "what's the biggest different between these two models from a beginner's point". You asked at the right place =D I guess by now you would've more or less know each of their technical specs. So I'm once again gonna give a personal opinion on this question of yours. From a total beginner's point-of-view, the 2 cameras are more or less identical. It's only when you start to venture into various lenses that you realise that the D60 is quite short-ended. Since the D60 doesn't have an AF motor in its body, you would have to get lenses with AF motors in them, and that will be a little more expensive. The D80 on the other hand, does come with an internal motor. All that being said, I don't think I'll advise you on which model to get, you can do it better yourself
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joyyy	Jan 7 2009, 08:08 PM Return to original view \| Post #62
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(phylem_hao @ Jan 7 2009, 07:37 PM) Thanks for the prompt reply. So I believe that's the biggest difference between these two. I would need AF, build-in or with lens (actually difference between these two type of AF is...? speed wise, operation wise etc?) Ok let me think about it and I might post what I have eventually decided to buy. Thank you once again. I believe they are the same or have little difference between them. Operation-wise, they both do exactly the same thing, which is obviously autofocusing. The only thing Nikon entry-level fanboys might say is that since the D80's AF motor is located within the body, if it spoils, you cant use AF anymore. But that argument is far-fetched at most.
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joyyy	Jan 8 2009, 12:42 AM Return to original view \| Post #63
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(phylem_hao @ Jan 7 2009, 11:56 PM) @joyyy and TheWandererX I just came back from 1utama, there's a shop selling the D60 with kitlens + nikon bag + 4gb card + cheap tripod at RM2288. Is it a good buy? Understand that you guys might not know the pricing for a certain model, just asking. I might not be up-to-date with the pricing of the D60, but I still think that the price quoted to you is too expensive. Here check this thread out. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ts&highlite=D60 Most of them got their package for around RM1900, which makes yours really expensive. I'd suggest going to Lowyat or Sungei Wang to scout for your camera, since there are more shops and it will be easier to compare prices there.
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joyyy	Jan 9 2009, 12:30 AM Return to original view \| Post #64
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(shepiroth @ Jan 9 2009, 12:02 AM) Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR Budget: CAN be adjust (aiming at 2k) Your Location: kl Preferable brand : nikon Type of photography u want to do : night view, scene like sunrise or set, and macro. Any specific models in mind? : d60, d80 or 2nd d70? (how much a 2nd d70 cost now) Any specific features u want? : more than 6 focus point, high shuttle speed. For best shuttle quality, I would suggest getting a Yonex Aerosensa 2 Tournament Grade. Ok srsly, I dont think you should get a second hand d70. Either get a new D80 or the D60. The D70 kinda outdated
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joyyy	Jan 9 2009, 01:37 AM Return to original view \| Post #65
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(shepiroth @ Jan 9 2009, 01:04 AM) ooo... basically how much diff the price of D60 and D80... and also the functionality... If you're just looking for a good camera to shot photos, they both do the same thing. The D80 is still more expensive than the D60, I find that its more expensive pricing worth it =/ At least more worth it that the 450D over the 1000d. =D This post has been edited by joyyy: Jan 9 2009, 01:38 AM
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joyyy	Jan 9 2009, 11:47 AM Return to original view \| Post #66
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Jan 9 2009, 08:56 AM) Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR Budget: RM1300-RM1800 including kit lens Your Location: PJ Preferable brand : Nikon / Sony Alpha Type of photography u want to do : Portrait Any specific models in mind? : D40 / D60 / A200 Any specific features u want? : - I'm planning to buy but then tight budget..any good recommendation for a beginner? I'm newbie...please advise.. I heard that lens for sony alpha will be more expensive compare with nikon.. but then body for nikon will be slightly expensive than sony alpha.. in long term..nikon will be more economic right? Trust me, no one brand is more "economical" in the long run. Once you've commited to investing in lenses, you'd bound to be spending a lot of money on lenses and other what-nots.
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joyyy	Jan 9 2009, 10:55 PM Return to original view \| Post #67
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(sunmenghao @ Jan 9 2009, 10:33 PM) Hi! Secondhand Nikon D60 + 18-55 VR Kit + 4gb + Bag + Tripod + screen protector + 52mm UV filter warranty still got 5month RM1400 worth to buy? OR better fund for canon 1000D? Please advise Or do you want a brand new Sony A200? It's around that price you know, and it has in-body image stabilization too. =D I love that camera
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joyyy	Jan 12 2009, 11:09 AM Return to original view \| Post #68
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(whymengy @ Jan 12 2009, 12:12 AM) Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR+Kit Lens Budget: RM2000 Your Location: KL Preferable brand : none Type of photography u want to do : Travel, Portrait Any specific models in mind? : Nikon D60, Canon 1000D, Olympus E-420, Pentax K-m Any specific features u want? : 1-Live View NOT important 2-Need a reasonably good cam and kit lens as i want to learn more and dun plan to spend more on camera to upgrade lens or body anytime soon 3-Good image quality with low noise Okay..you've basically got your choices right. Just something to add, you might want to include the Sony A200 in your list. I personally like the A200 very much and at around RM1500, it's a grab =D All DSLRs more or less produce quality images with low noise. Now it's up to you to personally test out those cameras and see which one you prefer over the other. Added on January 12, 2009, 11:19 am QUOTE([gs�]JackMin @ Jan 12 2009, 08:48 AM) Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR Budget: RM2500 ish Your Location: PJ Preferable brand : none Type of photography u want to do : Travel Any specific models in mind? : no idea. Any specific features u want? : 1.) im a completely noob in photography and my current camera is the first generation touch screen Sony cybershot (very lousy) 2.) lookin for a camera that i can easily take great shots (like those pro DSLR users) 3.) something that can stabilise image during movement. 4.) i travel alot and i hope for a great camera that can capture those moments. You dont really get the point of DSLRs dont you. A DLSR will not guarantee you "great shots". It's how you utilize the camera that will produce great results. But then, if you insist on getting a DSLR, I would suggest you to do more research on DSLRs and get some idea on the models that you want. This post has been edited by joyyy: Jan 12 2009, 11:19 AM
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joyyy	Jan 15 2009, 10:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #69
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(ad3rb33n @ Jan 15 2009, 01:43 PM) Type of accesories : DSLR camera bag Budget:< RM 100 Your Location: KL Preferable brand : as long reliable Type of photography u want to do : outdoor, humid Any specific models in mind? : as long reliable Any specific features u want? : waterproof,compact It's hard to find a proper sub-100 DSLR bag. Most weather resistant bags are normally priced in the RM200-400 range. >__< I'm personally looking at the Lowepro Inverse series
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joyyy	Jan 16 2009, 10:22 AM Return to original view \| Post #70
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(qiuhuek @ Jan 16 2009, 01:44 AM) Type of camera: DSLR Budget : <2k Your Location : PG Preferable brand : Canon, Sony, Nikon Type of photography u want to do : anything/everything Any specific models in mind? : Sony A200, Nikon D40 & Canon 1000D Any specific features u want? : DSLR which suite for beginner, durability, flexibility for me to expand needs (play around with some special effect by changing filter n so on), wide range of accesories (lens) & reasonable price. Like TheWandererX said, I would also be against the purchase of the D40 since it's old technology. Not to say that it is bad, but with that price, you could get yourself a newer model, like the A200. Everything about the A200 says its better than the D40, exept the brand. Add a little more cash, and you'll be looking at the Canon 1000d or the Nikon D60.
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joyyy	Jan 17 2009, 12:06 AM Return to original view \| Post #71
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(viruz019 @ Jan 16 2009, 10:52 PM) Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR camera Budget : 1.5-2k with kitlens Your Location : KL Preferable brand : Canon or Nikon or Sony Type of photography u want to do : Landscape(scenery?), macro(closeup?) Any specific models in mind? : Nikon D60, Sony A200 Any specific features u want? : Something that can help me with the type of photography i wan and gives me the best performance for it that is within my budget.. If you want the camera with the best performance-to-price ratio, then you're looking at the Sony A200. If you're looking at availability of lenses, Sony does have a wide variety of lenses to suit most shooting styles, but, Canon and Nikon does have the advantage of having a wider range of lenses.
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joyyy	Jan 17 2009, 10:07 AM Return to original view \| Post #72
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(biscut_87 @ Jan 17 2009, 10:06 AM) Type of : DSLR Budget:1.5k(could push till 1.7k or 1.8k but not sure yet) Your Location: KL,selangor Preferable brand : any Type of photography u want to do : art photos and anything Any specific models in mind? : no Any specific features u want? : have more lens option A200 You are as vague as could be. So is my answer This post has been edited by joyyy: Jan 17 2009, 10:07 AM
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joyyy	Jan 18 2009, 04:19 PM Return to original view \| Post #73
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(malayneum @ Jan 18 2009, 04:00 PM) is it ok to buy DSLR if i never plan to upgrade or change the lens? Sure. Why not? But I bet you anything that you'll feel limited by the kit lens after a while.
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joyyy	Jan 18 2009, 06:10 PM Return to original view \| Post #74
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(malayneum @ Jan 18 2009, 04:34 PM) by that rationale, wouldnt it be better for me to get top of the line PnS instead? You're not wrong at all. Or, if you like the DSLR-ish design, you could try looking at superzooms.
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joyyy	Jan 18 2009, 10:26 PM Return to original view \| Post #75
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(shanelee840424 @ Jan 18 2009, 10:05 PM) Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR Budget: 1600-1700 Your Location: KL Preferable brand : Canon / Nikon Type of photography u want to do : Travel, Landscape, Portrait Any specific models in mind? : Nikon D60, Canon 450D(body only),Canon 400D(body only) Any specific features u want? : Good Landscape photo quality and night view Hi, I am in dilemma in choose Canon 400D(body only), Canon 450D(body Only) and Nikon D60. Some of the camera shop owner told me that Nikon D60 is suitable for the landscape shooting. However canon is more to the portrait shooting. I am wondering is that true? Which one i should go for it? After a trip back from Hong Kong, my current camera can't fulfill my needs anymore. thanks for advice. There's no such thing as to what type of photography a brand is "more suitable" at. The only thing that determines that is the lens itself. If you've got a super telephoto lens on a D60, I wouldn't say it's very suitable for landscape shootings. Wide angle lenses are more suitable for landscape shooting, and both brands do have their range of wide angle lenses.
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joyyy	Jan 20 2009, 12:28 AM Return to original view \| Post #76
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(malayneum @ Jan 19 2009, 10:43 PM) so what does the LCD on cameras like A200 doing? it doesnt show any live image?? sorry noob question. It doesn't. It only allows you to review the pictures that you've taken, it doesn't allow for real-time viewing.
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joyyy	Jan 20 2009, 09:04 PM Return to original view \| Post #77
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(hosay @ Jan 20 2009, 08:16 PM) Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR Budget: RM2K-3K Your Location: KL Preferable brand : Canon/Nikon/Sony Type of photography u want to do : use for event and travel, Potraits? Any specific models in mind? : Canon 1000D / 450D, Sony A300 Any specific features u want? : live view. Compare below 2 camera, which one is more worthy? Canon 1000D+4GB+tripod+bag = RM1999 Canon 450D+4GB+tripod+bag = RM2699 (Just a few different from spec, but $ wise different a lot) How u guy think about Sony A300? Bcoz it looks more worth for money if compare the spec from paper. I'd rather take the 1000D and use the extra RM700 to get a flash or an extra lens =D Those little advantage the 450D has over the 1000D isn't going to be significant.
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joyyy	Jan 21 2009, 11:30 PM Return to original view \| Post #78
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 21 2009, 10:12 PM) Well like i said, the users of Nikon n Canon can't seem to accept Sony's entry to the DSLR's market. One should know that Sony bought over Konica Minolta, so there was a development from there already, not a total n00b footing in DSLR. Each camera has their pros & cons, so just weigh it accordingly to your preferences. Go touch n feel it. Like me, i used to be a total n00b in DSLR 1month ago, but i'm proud to say, i do read a lot and progress since then. IMO, when i tested the 1000d, it was too light for my liking, the weight distribution wasn't balance, and when u fit for eg a 75-300mm, it will only get worst. Build quality wasn't that good either, on the other hand, the A200 felt solid n fits my grip comfortably. my point is, try to look things in a neutral way, read unbiased reviews/judgements/input and decide for urself Quoted for truth. I myself am a Canon user, but I always encourage people to look at the A200. Unlike what toblerone said, I on the other hand think that Sony PnS are lousy and not worth a second look. It's good to know that Konica Minolta ventured into the DSLR market earlier than both Canon and Nikon, which followed suit only a few years later.
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joyyy	Jan 22 2009, 12:33 AM Return to original view \| Post #79
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(Zeegon @ Jan 21 2009, 11:38 PM) So which would you suggest? Your 1000D or A200? Like what kucingfight said, we third party people can only say so much about a certain model. At the end it's still up to you to decide which model you like more. I personally chose the Canon over the A200, but other people may choose otherwise. I would say, if the budget is tight, then you could look at the A200. But if you've got enough budget, you could start looking at the D60 or 1000D. These DSLRs are very close in terms of performance. I wont say that any particular brand is far better than other brands.
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joyyy	Jan 24 2009, 06:22 PM Return to original view \| Post #80
Regular Senior Member 1,394 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(fixitfixit @ Jan 24 2009, 06:13 PM) after much research on the internet, i plan to buy Sony A300 body only and couple it with Carl Zeiss 16-80. this is my first camera ever. is this a wise choice? or is there any better alternative for the same cost? thanks for advice. I personally believe that there is no "better alternatives", there's only "better preferences". If you personally prefer the A300 over the other cameras, you wouldnt be as happy if you got another camera just because other forumers give you a "better alternative" and you decide to follow it. So, it's still better to follow your own preference rather than others'
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