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Buying Advice Wanna buy New Camera? Undecided which to choose?V2, ASK HERE! Dont create a thread elsewhere

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post Dec 17 2008, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(fixcomm @ Dec 16 2008, 09:22 PM)
thanx a lot bro, really appreciate the input and does clear my mind a bit bout this shifting matter smile.gif

btw,can this be consider as a good package?
Canon EOS 450D + EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens for RM 3,999

and does megapixel figure play role in zooming the image?-the bigger the pixel value, the more you can zoom on the image without getting pixelated?  (just wants to confirm-i'm still new with this hobby)

again bro, thanx a lot dude

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Dude, the reason why you see pixelated images on your digital camera when you zoom is because that is the camera's digital zoom. Normal digital cameras have two types of zoom. Optical and digital. Optical zoom is where the lens will change its focal length to become longer or shorter. Digital zoom is where the camera will attempt to "fake" optical zoom by using complex algorithms to manipulate the pixels.
DSLRs do not have the digital zoom capability. This is because to use digital zoom, some sensor must actually be "looking" at the image in order to apply the complex algorithms to digitally magnify the image. When viewing into the viewfinder in a DSLR, you're actually looking at reflected light that is passing through the lens.

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So, let's allow you to tell me - are Konica Minolta lenses common in Malaysia?

I'm not 'rejecting' other brands as you say, but purely pointing out the downsides.

Now you're trying to change the subject.
Do you even try to point out each brands' pros and cons. It seems to me that whenever people ask, your answer will be either a Canon or a Nikon or both. And surprisingly nothing is mentioned about the other brands.
I was pointing out that Sony does have an impressive lens lineup. And you not seeing Konica Minolta or Sony lenses being sold doesn't mean that it isn't common in Malaysia. It just means that you do not know where to look for it yet.

This post has been edited by joyyy: Dec 17 2008, 12:25 AM
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post Dec 18 2008, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Dec 17 2008, 11:19 AM)
For closeup, you need macro lenses, and the cheapest one is RM300 for Canon, while for Nikon, I'm not sure.

Since you're a beginner and you PREFER Canon or Nikon (just emphasizing, if not I'll get flamed by somebody here), you can choose from the D60, D80 (body) , 1000D or the 450D.

D60 and 1000D is RM2k+-, the 450D is RM3k for the kit, and the D80 is around RM2k for the body.

The extra money (if you buy the D60 or 1000D) can be used to buy a good macro lens, either the EF 50mm f/1.8 or the f/1.4. While if you get the D80 or the 450D you might have to push your budget up a wee bit more.
Actually, the cheapest macro lens for Canon is around RM1k, which is the Canon 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro. http://yamiya.com.my/store/product.php?pro...&cat=251&page=1
The 50mm f/1.8 cant be used for macro. It has a lousy closest focusing distance of around 0.5m, and an image magnification of only 0.1x. From what I know the minimum magnification required for the lens to be considered a macro lens, the magnification should be around 0.5x

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post Dec 21 2008, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(DarthVaderAsip @ Dec 21 2008, 09:41 PM)
Which one is better?
D60 or 100D?
i mean from the image sensor size, ISO range, high/low aperture.
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They're the same in terms of those things you mentioned.
They have almost the same image sensor size. They both have a maximum ISO of 1600.
Aperture is only affected by the lens you're using. So it has nothing to do with the camera. smile.gif
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post Dec 22 2008, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(takeshi99 @ Dec 22 2008, 10:57 AM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR Camera
Budget: 2k-4k
Your Location: KL
Preferable brand : Canon or Nikon
Type of photography u want to do : I love night scenery shooting especially colorful buildings, Wedding shooting, wildlife, natural scenery
Any specific models in mind? : D90 or 450D

I'm not a pro but at first I targeted 450D but after i saw D90's features and quality, i was like drooling for it... but way too expensive for D90. I saw quite alot ppl selling off their 450D becos they wanna upgrade to either 40D or D90 becos they bored with 450D after few months using... I dun wun end up like them later if take 450D

Any pro can advice me based on my needs above? Thks
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A good photographer will not complain about the inferiority of his gear, only his creativity. (Although I frickin do sad.gif)
Seriously, how good the picture turns out to be is 90% the photographer and only 10% his gears.
If you already have your eyes on the 450D, then just get it. Or if you have the budget to go for the 40D...
What I mean is you dont have to sell off one of your kidneys just to get the 40D/D90. smile.gif

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post Dec 23 2008, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(ad3rb33n @ Dec 23 2008, 04:34 PM)
Thinking to get D40 over D60; coz no much big diff(but D40 much morecheaper hehe).. any advice? BTW, how abt Canon EOS 1000D over D40?
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Although still a decent camera, I personally think that the D40 is definitely outdated.
The D60 kit is about a few hundred bucks more than the D40 kit. For that few hundred bucks, you get 4 million more pixels, Image stabilization and a slightly faster burst rate.
If you're comparing the D40 and the 1000D, I'd say that the Canon wins in technical terms.
But if you're budget is limiting you to the price range of the D40, why not consider the Sony A200? Its price is around that of the D40 and the A200 is a very very good DSLR with In-body Image stabilization and 10MP.
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post Dec 23 2008, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(ad3rb33n @ Dec 23 2008, 08:19 PM)
Thx for da advice..

My budget is within RM2k+-(but the less da better rite?) BTW, i still dunno which to get, D60 OR 1000D... Since i still new to DSLR n still a student, i would like to think n research deeply be4 go out n make my purchase.. Planning to get it by da end of tis month/early next month, but still can't make up my mind unsure.gif..

BTW, again, wat shud i look/check for when i making a purchase?

N, wat da current street price of D80?Just curious..
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Both are winners in their own right smile.gif
The most important things to check are the condition of the camera and the lens. Check for any exterior defects. Then maybe you could test the camera's burst mode, just to make sure it's functioning properly.
If you're getting the Nikon, I think there's a function to check the shutter count. Refuse the camera if it isn't new. For the Canon....best of luck to you smile.gif
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post Dec 23 2008, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ad3rb33n @ Dec 23 2008, 09:22 PM)
What do you mean?  rclxub.gif
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Canon camera doesnt have any shutter count checking feature within the camera while Nikon does.
I've heard of a 3rd party software that you could use to check the shutter count, but then again you'd need a laptop with you when you purchase the camera, and that's er, inconvenient?
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post Dec 24 2008, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(ad3rb33n @ Dec 24 2008, 12:13 AM)
OIC... soli i dunno tat canon cannot check withn da body interface itself... doh.gif
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No problem man. Heck, I didn't even think about checking the shutter count when I was buying my camera xD
But if you're going for the Nikon, by all means do check, since the feature is already there smile.gif
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post Dec 24 2008, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(ajoy_sempoi @ Dec 24 2008, 09:18 PM)
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I call that spam
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post Dec 25 2008, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(lehtung @ Dec 25 2008, 08:47 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories :  DSLR
Budget: 2000
Your Location:   KL
Preferable brand :  sony
Type of photography u want to do :  anything , small things
Any specific models in mind? :  no idea
Any specific features u want? :
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I call this spam too.
Please dont pop up from nowhere, mention 2000 and wait to be spoon-fed.
At least have some idea of what you want. mad.gif
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post Dec 25 2008, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(lehtung @ Dec 25 2008, 10:02 PM)
sorry .. cz i am totally a noob , edited ..
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What do you think each and everyone here was when they first started out?
My advice is to do some research on DSLRs, then only decide whether a DSLR will suit your needs.
Then you test those DSLRs out in a shop and see which one you like most.
We offer advice to those who already know what they want but are in a dilemma as to which to choose. smile.gif
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post Dec 26 2008, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 25 2008, 11:18 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : consumer digicam i assume
Budget : RM500 or lower
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand : i dun mind
Type of photography u want to do : portrait, i assume
Any specific models in mind? : Sony cybershot w70, olympus FE series (if any), canon powershots(if any)
Any specific features u want? : just those normal but so-so family type camera for gatherings or watever. its for lady use, then for casual purposes.noneed so hightech.acceptable specs and good features.

*asking behalf of my friend, she only have rm500 max.meantime cybershot w70 is in her budget, wandering is there anything better than that but in her budget?

tq in advance.im not good in camera stuff.
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You could look at the Panasonic Lumix series. For compact cameras, Panasonic has produced really excellent cameras, both in features and quality.
I'd say forget the Sony. They're top loaded with features but lukewarm when it comes to picture quality. smile.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 26 2008, 10:41 AM)
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and its in the budget?was once lumix is more than the budget..around rm900..

despite picture quality, juz for memory purposes, not so serious about the photo quality..sony still can be acceptable?same goes to canon powershots ar?or its totaly a failure?nikon ler?those small compact cams. i do some homework in the garage zone section too..

thanks alot,mate.
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Er..I'm afraid I'm not familiar with compact cameras, but I'm pretty sure that there should be a Lumix that is within your budget. For compacts, I seldom see people recommending Nikons.

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post Dec 28 2008, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 27 2008, 11:34 PM)
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thanks dude for the advice.found a lumix fs3 in my budget.nice item.rock n roll,dude.
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Heh, all the best with the new camera smile.gif
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post Dec 28 2008, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(nocar @ Dec 28 2008, 02:40 AM)
I need a backpack to store my DSLR stuffs (450D, 18-55mm IS, 55-250mm IS, 50mm 1.8) and carry it around on a motorcycle. Hope to get some recommendations on suitable all-weather backpack (with rain cover). Is there a shop in KL that stock many camera backpack models? Easy for me to try them out. Thanks.
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The Lowepro Slingshot 100 AW might be a bit small if you want to store all that gear, but I think the Slingshot 200AW will be just nice smile.gif
And yeah, it comes with a rain cover.
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QUOTE(coolgirl_y2k1 @ Dec 28 2008, 12:26 PM)
I need a digital point and shoot camera, with decent style and great/excellent performance/pictures...budget is not too much of an issue..certainly something worth its value would be good..thought of getting Canon IXUS 870, but the absence of optical viewfinder is keeping me from getting it instantly...how important is the viewfinder? and feel free to give  other recommendations similar to this model..thanks =)

p.s a newbie getting her 1st camera.
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For a compact camera, an optical viewfinder is merely a novelty. Sure, it Might help you see more clearly in dark situations where the LCD screen is more or less dark. But heck, you wont be in those situations often.
WHat's more, in a compact camera, the optical viewfinder has a parallax. In lay man terms, what you see through the viewfinder and snap isn't going to be what the final picture turns out to be. So you'd be better off framing the shot with the LCD screen instead. smile.gif
If you're looking at a compact camera, do take a look at Panasonic's Lumix series. While their features may lack out, they do make up with their superior image quality.
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QUOTE(coolgirl_y2k1 @ Dec 28 2008, 01:13 PM)
Thanks!
Hmm...I have not considered Panasonic's Lumix before...probably because their design and the ''look'' does not appeal to me..nevertheless, anyone have any particular Lumix models that you would suggest?? I will certainly start doing some 'research' on it..Thanks.
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I'm really not familiar with compact cameras sad.gif So I cant recommend you any specific models.
But it depends on your budget, there should be a Lumix available for various budgets.
Yeah, Sony does have the "looks", but when it comes to quality images, it lacks behind Panasonic smile.gif
I'd say go to any camera shop and test out their cameras to have a first hand look at them. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(coolgirl_y2k1 @ Dec 28 2008, 02:47 PM)
Sorry did not know there is a template. Here goes.

Type of camera/lens/accesories :  point and shoot, compact

Budget: below RM1500, preferably below RM 1200-1300
Your Location: Australia

Preferable brand :  Canon, Panasonic, Sony (initially)

Type of photography u want to do :  Just everyday family and holiday photos

Any specific models in mind? :  Initially thinking of Canon Ixus 870 and probably Lumix DMC FX-38. Open to recommendations of similar or better performance/specs within the price range

Any specific features u want? :  Around 10 Mp, prefer wide angle lens, nice design

Thanks =)
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Wanna hop onto the DSLR wagon? brows.gif brows.gif
For around RM1500 you could get a nice Sony A200 package. smile.gif
Now I did mention about Sony's underperforming compacts, but for their DSLRs it's a different story altogether. smile.gif
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QUOTE(harrycath @ Dec 28 2008, 04:03 PM)
Greetings from a noob!

Just thought I'd post a warning to all noobs to stay away from the dealer, Pertama Foto (Address: 1-126, 1st Floor Pertama Complex).

The shop owner (an elderly lady) sold me a Hoya 52mm ND Filter when I was looking for an NC filter. The filter cost me RM43, and I only realized the mistake when I got home (sigh!).

I then went back only to find that she had no NC filters, but was willing to exchange for another item. I settled for a Nikon 2GB SD Card but she insisted I pay her the full retail price of RM98! (I bought my last one for RM50).

I had to fork out another RM55 to make up the difference. Turns out (from an overheard conversation) she was trying to offload this filter returned by another unsatisfied customer.

This unscrupulous dealer obviously preys on noobs who don't know any better.
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Lemme ask you this, WHY didn't you check the filter when you were buying it?

QUOTE(coolgirl_y2k1)
Haha, thanks for the invitation but unfortunately, I'm a total noob in photography and thus getting DSLR is out of the picture till I decided to take up photography as a full time hobby, one day hopefully =) So I'm still sticking to getting a compact camera for the time being.

Not even if I tell you DSLRs produce better pictures? brows.gif brows.gif
Anyways, there's always a first brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(BaLs @ Dec 28 2008, 06:31 PM)
Thanks

But Lumix LX3 zooming capabilities only 2.5 compare to Cybershot DSC H50 ( 15x ) and LUMIX DMC-FZ28 ( 18x ) .

Does DSLR camera required any extra care/maintenance?  sweat.gif

I'm beginner and looking own my first camera  icon_question.gif
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If you're looking at massive zooms and a tight budget, I'm afraid DSLRs aren't your cup of tea. DSLR kits come with a tiny 2x zoom kit-lens and if you want more than that, you gotta invest in expensive zoom lenses.
One problem facing DSLRs is the possibility of dust getting stuck on the image sensor, resulting in smudges and spots on the picture. But this can be solved by easy cleaning. Manufacturers have even implemented self-sensor cleaning mechanisms to further reduce dust build-up on the sensor. smile.gif

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