hhehe yep honda is nerfed in this games as his hundred slap range is short no that useful already if compare to remix...and i feel somewhat sf4 speed is slow so need to get use to it....anyway will join u guy after a while to get used to the games....

yeah man, it was like the speed was negative 3.......most of the moves cannot execute, unless i do it slow mo also....

true, we play for fun, not for winning...thats why i random chars when playing....why so serious? it ain't no tournament man....

anyway, when we play against more ppl, we learn more new tricks..............

yeah.. I second that.. sometime when fighting people with 1 bar connectivity, the game tends to slow...

I'm trying to main other characters now... would like to work on abel first... If you all got the time, lets spar together...

too bad now no spectator mode like hd remix....we can learn by watching....

yeah, have to say that sfhd lobby is better than SF4 ... strange but true ...

I do agree with Mike and Fremont, playing online is most definitely not mainly about winning or performing your absolute best, but much more about learning/training (new tricks/combo/ etc), having a laugh or just making friends. I have always considered online matches as friendlies, where we have fun and share knowledge rather than an intense battle/ tournament. That is why, I prefer spectating matches in SFIIHDR, which I find SF4 is seriously lacking. Anyway to each their own.

Though I must admit the lag sometimes frustrates the best of us, especially when your inputs for SF4 just refuses to come out, or when you are at the receiving end of impossible moves in SF2HDR, but I feel that is the price you sometimes have to pay for the convenience of playing online at home, on your comfy sofa.

Oh, let me also thank some of you all, for your patience of spamming invites after invites and waiting for me to connect. My line has been absolutely horrendous this past few days! Strangely though, I have a few friends who have no problems at all connecting to me with just a single invite and am to date, still trying to figure out how we can connect so easily!

yep i agreed playing online is not about winning, anyway for me still needed adjust to the current sf4 play style before playing with other if not there is no fun to play with other if i cant control my character properly..just my opinion..mike and neobita let play some games this coming sat if i see you guy online ok....

Yah.. lag is something to be expected, and I'm guilty of complaining of it sometimes too but after few slo-mo games, no feeling already as I feel privileged to fight with someone who can put up with it too - so it works both ways

I find people here having plenty of respect for each other so win or lose the match, we all win, in the sense we gain from the experience. People in ranked matches tend to quit more while they are losing, in the effort to not lose their miserable BPs - which is not a true gauge on how good you are.

No top-player is "in-des-tructableee" (sing along now) so everyone has definitely a winning chance provided they do research, train and collect more experience with their chosen character. Just sharing, I myself love doing research and tend to be an analytical fighter. Besides just brawling and learning from experience, I analyse match videos and adopt best practice, visit other sites for moves with frame advantages and match-ups, character-specific discussions, etc. But does this make me a better fighter? Not at all, and never will. You may know the tools but it's entirely up to you on how you use it. That's where experience comes to play. For me and the rest here, even champions, we're always learning.

TristanX (Ken) got to where he did because of his vast experience and he knew his character(s) well, as with matchups (being careful vs Blanka, playing range vs Gief, etc). Kenneth (Ryu) won because of similar values too, and was given more openings. Fair play, I would say.

But ultimately to re-quote our motto, "SF binds friendship"!

This post has been edited by rawfish: Mar 4 2009, 02:55 PM

agreed rawfish but i hope capcom can make some changes to the online play which is not that good if compare with remix...

good to see positive remarks and same wavelength we have here among remixers ...

oh btw, rawfish when i say those that cannot accept lag was from here .. i do mean from lyn and not those random rage quiters. I'm sure u know him as well ahahaha

At first I didn't think a game could bond friendship, furthermore a fighting game... but now I know that it does... anyway... I'll be back on wifi for the time being and the line will suck... this is a sacrifice I must make to pursue a project of mine.. anyway... got game? just invite for gaduh and we will see lar.. if the connection so bad... then won't play for a while...

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Added on March 4, 2009, 5:28 pmanother thing mikee.... I think we need to change the name of the topic... Street Fighter (The Remixers Community)...

just a suggestion oni... hihihi~

This post has been edited by neobita: Mar 4 2009, 05:28 PM

eh why u all play online together no one invite me wan? i also wanna practice and learn from u guys ma

hi deadangel, nice games on sfhd ... though you had to leave early. hope to see you next time

had some wonderful game with fremont and a long session with ahbee ...

good games guys !!!! fremont, your gief is damn fast n dangerous man !! 1 little mistake ggs !! ahaha ...

ahbee, i can see you improved a lot already and nice cammy & rose u have there !!!

envy u guys can get to use new characters so easily ... sigh, for old man like me, damn hard to get used to new characters ...


btw lykiat, you got online meh ?? last night didn't see you online also ...

Dun lar, lykiat . As squall said it'll be great if more people can join the lobby and have the winner-stays system like SFHD.

Actually I need a favour from any of you, and I will repay the same. I am trophy-whoring now and besides clearing the %^$%^*$* Hard Trial Challenge mode I need to get 10 straight wins over Ranked matches. As you know, getting matches which are +2 bars and above AND being able to connect to the person is darn hard already, AND even more challenging when the connection gets laggy.

Attempt #1: Used Dictator to beat 7 people, 8th person laggy hence I could not even punish a missed EX dragon punch (the person did not know how to play, was spamming DPs). Lost in the end.

Attempt #2: Used Dic again and matches were harder to find. By the 5th match I wanted to get it over with and used Gief coz even if laggy I can at least punish people without basic combos. 7th person used Seth and kept spamming Sonic Booms and fwd+HP (Dhalsim's long hands) from far, and Teleport each time I got near. Lost like that, in the lag too - bah.

2 Hours Later...

Attempt #3: Tried a different approach. I did a search filter for "non-lobby" matches, which means I will fight people who allow themselves to be challenged during Arcade mode. I assume people waiting in the Lobby will be more battle hungry and skilled. Furthermore, I looked specifically for 1-round matches, which newbies tend to go for in Arcade mode to unlock characters - no other reasons for 1-rounds. Fought my way to the 8th opponent, with 3+ bars, and got defeated by his/her Chun Li. She was played Japanese style rushdown/defence e.g. d+lk x3 in corner, EX lightning legs to Ultra in corner. Mati without any 2nd round chance to comeback.

The most painful part is actually refreshing the available opponents and actually getting to connect to them.


So... anyone willing to create a ranked lobby with 1 round, in some obscure language, with the least number of seconds, and hopefully my search will pick you up? Need 10 wins. Then if the person also wants, I will do the same of course.


PS: Mike.. to get a rough idea on how to use new chars i usually will watch the Japs on Youtube then adopt their best practice. Then develop my own style lo. At least to get a rough idea on how they are best played. Some characters have an impossible learning curve e.g. Tetsuo's El Fuerte!

Other than that for some chars, the trick is to find a few simple, practical combos to use when got opportunity. And also few moves with quick recovery... SPAM IT!

Thanks for the advice bro ... believe me, i do that a lot !! haha .. just that this new character that i'm interested in seems to NOT have both 1) human controlled video 2) BnB combo and quick recovery moves hahahaha .. its making me crazy !!

learning him is like i need to forget how shotos normally works cuz eventhough he is a shoto but he sure play differently ... arrrghhh, the power or nothingness !!! hehehe

It is Gouken... or Dan

Hey let's learn together... but I need ur help with getting 10 straight wins on Ranked!

for you, not a problem ... hehe... at most just loose some BP from my 2k ish points ...

just let me know when

its gouken !!! he seems to be interesting, but very difficult to master and he doesn't work with normal shotos way ...

I got no prob helping you out as well and ease the drain on Mike's BP.

I had managed to get that trophy recently, but during my quest I realised that the bars are not directly related to lag. 7 out of all my consecutive ranked wins were from no bars connection of which 6 were practically lag free! In fact the match which I nearly lost due to lag was a 4 bar match . FYI all my ranked wins were challenges from the arcade mode at the hardest setting, best of 3 99 secs rounds. Maybe you might want to test out playing bar-less ranked challengers and see how it goes before we assist you ?

Anyway might need your advise later on some of the challenge mode trials both normal and hard. Can't seem to complete them even with videos (oh till my TE stick arrives am still using my good olde DS3) and that ken hard trial 5 is crazy! I still got 8 trophies left. Oh if you got any problems with the hard time or survival challenges just use Gief, his lariat plus double head butt sure stun move makes it a breeze.

jin, the actual problem for survival and time challenge is not the challenge itself, its the amount of time you need to invest into it hahahha

on certain stages, it would take more than 25 stages !!! crazyyyyyy .... i stopped survival and time after i got all the colors ahhaha

you are correct about the bars !! i'd even experience a LAGLESS blinking antenna hahahaha (no bar at all)

jin ... later try game with u again ...

you try the HARD survival, level 1.....i reached round 71, and still not finished....i gave up........imagine, 71 rounds and still not done!!!

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Added on March 5, 2009, 7:42 pmgg with you too mike, maybe tonite can meet u summore...

my main prb with gief, i have no patience when fighting.....always go for the attack, but if miss, major damage....maybe i need to turtle more to wear the opponent down...

for new chars, i am not that enthusiastic to use, maybe i still prefer the older chars.....can't wait for thawk, IF he manage to come to sf4 la....

This post has been edited by fremont88: Mar 5 2009, 07:42 PM