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post Feb 21 2009, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(hsk @ Feb 20 2009, 09:37 AM)
any different between ta2020 & ta2040 ?
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ta2040...not sur bro...


QUOTE(kww @ Feb 20 2009, 08:36 PM)
anyone replace the inductor with better quality like air-core before?
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i think no.....

QUOTE(Y.C. @ Feb 20 2009, 09:20 PM)
You meant this board per pix below? What would be your SP to us?
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yep probably... still trying to get a good price from supplier, hehe sure SP 1.... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(PcWork @ Feb 21 2009, 11:26 AM)
YO.. Bring It On.. who got sell.. how much..
if it is like the board at the pix .. i think i am pretty much itchy for it..
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i think might be triple ta2024 that i bring in

QUOTE(March05 @ Feb 21 2009, 11:33 AM)
Oh no! not another one...I haven't even started on my TA2024 yet! Die lah like this.
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hahaha....if the price work out, mayb i bring it in before april

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post Feb 21 2009, 11:08 PM

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dylanhaydenshuiyo
post Feb 23 2009, 10:50 PM

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Hi T-Amp Sifus,

Just to share my humble experience with u all.

In Nov 08,I finally decided to take a jump in into hi-fi things (entry level).

Almost "jump out" again when I see the price tag in hifi shop tongue.gif

Nowadays economy demands to be prudent but cannot tahan the poison anymore.

Then set my mission : to built below RM1K hifi setup (cdp+amp+speaker+no brand interconnects&speaker cable).

My friends laugh at me & says it is impossible!!!

And the hunt started :

Early Jan 09- Manage to get CDP Sansui X-310 (NOS) = RM300

Mid Jan 09- Bought PSB Alpha Bookshelf Speaker (used) = RM300
- Speaker Cable + RCA2RCA I/connects = RM60

After countless hours of searching, I found the review of T-Amp in TNT then in LYN forum (this thread). A bit sceptical at first but the price attract me RM60. drool.gif

But shocking.gif chip only aa?

I am no modder or DIYer blush.gif . So for safety purpose tongue.gif I decided to order complete built T-Amp from bro xtorm.

Finally have it on last week wednesday with a price that really fit my tight budget

Results -

1) First impression - Clarity, great vocals & treble, but overall quite harsh, lack of bass (some of my cd are hard rock & metals)

2) After 30 hours running in
- harshness start to dissapear
- very detail in instruments & vocal sounds, start to hear the sound of some instrument that I vr heard b4 biggrin.gif
- no complaints on classical/neo classical movie soundtrack, feels like those chambers orchestra playing infront of me tongue.gif
- the bass on pop & hard rock cds starts to improve.
- As for metal cds have to wait untill finish running in 100 hours but bro xtrom told me should be realistic on 5W blush.gif

anyway I am glad to take "plunge" in this T-Amp. really happy for what i have now. At this moment la.

Wah TA2020 with 25W ? drool.gif












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post Feb 24 2009, 12:09 AM

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dylan,
way to go! thumbup.gif
welcome to the club!
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post Feb 26 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Feb 21 2009, 06:23 PM)
ta2040...not sur bro...
i think no.....
yep probably... still trying to get a good price from supplier, hehe sure SP 1.... biggrin.gif
i think might be triple ta2024 that i bring in
hahaha....if the price work out, mayb i bring it in before april
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wow...new toys coming huh? tongue.gif
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post Mar 4 2009, 06:16 PM

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my running in almost reach 50hours tongue.gif

but I am quite curious on this matter hmm.gif

I notice nowadays once i switch on the amp and start play the cd, the first 2 songs normally sounds "flat", means that lack of treble, clarity etc. I am talking even on those acoustic songs

But the third songs onwards, it sound much nicer, more details & so on like what i describe before. Now for some good recordings and especially when volume at 8 or 9 o clock, even the bass are quite solid cool.gif

So the Q's are

a)Is it the amp need some time to warm up once it is switch on ?

b) Does good recording in the cd are important? Most of my imported version cd's (international artiste) sounds really good but the some of the local pressed cd tak ada oomph la ?
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post Mar 4 2009, 07:48 PM

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dylan, I don't know your mod on t-amp but my modded t-amp sound sweet when turn on.
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post Mar 4 2009, 08:20 PM

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Same here! No 'warming up' necessary.. performance at the flick of a switch! wink.gif
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post Mar 5 2009, 09:10 AM

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kww,

mine pasang siap version (bought complete build from x-torm) tongue.gif

but i remember x-torm told me, he did change something, the black thing (cap is it ?). bro x-torm sorry if i mention it wrong smile.gif

jazzy,

no warm up eh ? maybe i need to to adjust my telinga biggrin.gif

anyway, cannot deny from hour to hour, this amp is getting better & better !!

last night, listen to Shania Twain (sexy voice), Laura Pausini (powerful italian voice), Eric Clapton (guitar master) & Therion (symphonic metal band). me like drool.gif !!


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post Mar 5 2009, 09:50 AM

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i got a few dump question

this T-amp is it works like DAC?
is it the similar amp to Little Dot stuff?

I need an amp to amplifier output from my com to my Aego m
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cRazYee:i got a few dump question
March05: This is a good place as any to dump some dumb questions.

cRazYee: this T-amp is it works like DAC? is it the similar amp to Little Dot stuff?
March05: No.

cRazYee: I need an amp to amplifier output from my com to my Aego m
March05: My turn to ask a dumb question. Why? Your Aego m has already got a built-in amp, and your comp/pc has got a built-in pre amp output, right?
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post Mar 5 2009, 11:14 AM

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dylan, your t-amp remind me of my old car. The first minute you can't move else the engine will die off, the next 5min the gear change will be rough, after that everything is back to normal.

Mind telling us what caps are in the board now? Is it the only change?
Mine all change except the 2024 and inductors.
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post Mar 5 2009, 11:22 AM

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Although I have not experienced pre-warm up sound as ascribed by Dylan, I am a firm believer of electronics sounding better after 20 minutes of warming up after powering up.

Kww, is your T-amp dead silent without music signal passing through now that it should be properly run-in?

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post Mar 5 2009, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:07 AM)
cRazYee:i got a few dump question
March05: This is a good place as any to dump some dumb questions.

cRazYee: this T-amp is it works like DAC? is it the similar amp to Little Dot stuff?
March05: No.

cRazYee: I need an amp to amplifier output from my com to my Aego m
March05: My turn to ask a dumb question. Why? Your Aego m has already got a built-in amp, and your comp/pc has got a built-in pre amp output, right?
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yap, aego m got it's own amp, but still feeling something missing, cuz i hardly turn to high volume

i'm using Mcbook pro, the output is not as good..... and how do you mean by preamp output?

how i position 'T-amp'? It's like ordinary amplifier?


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Yc, long time no see, how are you?
The warm up is too little for me to notice the difference. My ear need more training. My t-amp still got hissing sound when turn on with music, but not notice even in middle of the night unless put put my ear next to the speaker. I think is because of any of these reason:
1. i mix some Jalan Pasar cap (1uF, 100pF) and resistors (10ohm, 8.2kohm) to the quality component you pass to me.
2. The component leg is too long (as seem from pic, it is about 2cm for some cap). The input cap and power cap are on another board, the wire is about 5" long.
3. A few broken connection reconnect with bare wire.

Anyway it is still very sweet and smooth, only complain from wife and kids are no remote control for volume. Now it is my dinning room DVD 2 ch home theater amp. Maybe will build another later with better quality components, looking forward for long holiday.
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Mar 5 2009, 11:26 AM)
yap, aego m got it's own amp, but still feeling something missing, cuz i hardly turn to high volume

i'm using Mcbook pro, the output is not as good..... and how do you mean by preamp output?

how i position 'T-amp'? It's like ordinary amplifier?
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cRazYee, it's unusual that you cannot achieve high volume using the audio output from your Mcbook directly to your Aego m. Are you sure your software volume controls are not set too low?

The internal sound card of your Mcbook consists of a DAC plus a preamp (a very low powered amplifier which boost the signal to a level which is acceptable to a `power' amplifier). The audio out socket of the Mcbook is linked to the preamp.

If you are interested in getting better sound quality.....use an external DAC (AKA external sound card). Sorry, this thread does not deal with that particular component of the sound system.

Yes, you are right...the T-amp is like an ordinary amplifier. It is usually positioned between the pre-amp and passive speakers.
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post Mar 5 2009, 12:39 PM

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bro March,
You're good! thumbup.gif biggrin.gif
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post Mar 5 2009, 05:59 PM

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kww,

not sure what cap. maybe need to open then only know smile.gif

overall, i am quite satisfy. nvrmind let me fully run in for 100hours first. then see how it goes.


yc,

ur opinion restore my faith, so no need to to adjust telinga tongue.gif

btw i used sansui cdp also



to mod? i need to start to learn some eletronic & electrical basic first tongue.gif

T-Amp sifus,

me totally zero in diy & mod stuff, so bear with me on stoopid q's blush.gif

a) how does this t-amp work?

b) what is cap & function

c) what is resistor & function

d) things & skills needed to start diy ? sound really stoopid doesnt it blush.gif

ok will start to do some reseacrh on net too.


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dylan, you can just snap a picture of the t-amp and post it here.

About the mod, you can go back to page 1, xtrom and jazzy give a lot of guide. Check out YC blog also.

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