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ronssel
post Nov 20 2008, 10:39 AM

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whatever just make a police report, and see who win.

im out. and i dint say i promise that it will not get reversed at my topic, and i dint say i will refund the money at my topic. so go make a police report biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by ronssel: Nov 20 2008, 10:50 AM
huakenny
post Nov 20 2008, 10:42 AM

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nowadays really headache to see junior or newly joined member in marketplace section....

so many problems and hell...all involves new member........ doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Nov 20 2008, 10:31 AM)
Just need info on belows
Seller :
1) Why the funds was reversed @ the 1st place? If you don't know, perhaps an e-mail to Paypal will solve this problem
2) I don't understand what you have loss. Money in and out. Paypal is the 1st thing that reversed. By that time, you should have buyers cash in RM and your Paypal funds in USD(I assume) So what kind of money you have loss???
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QUOTE(ronssel @ Nov 20 2008, 10:39 AM)
whatever just make a police report, and see who win.

im out. and i dint say i promise that it will not get dispute at my topic, and i dint say i will refund the money. so go make a police report biggrin.gif
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Strangely enough.
You still can't answer any of the question above...
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Nov 20 2008, 10:46 AM)
Strangely enough.
You still can't answer any of the question above...
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that is why yesterday im asking him to take a screenshot of his paypal dispute page.
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(ronssel @ Nov 20 2008, 10:49 AM)
that is why yesterday im asking him to take a screenshot of his paypal dispute page.
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FOR???
Can't you just check from your paypal account? doh.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Nov 20 2008, 10:52 AM)
FOR???
Can't you just check from your paypal account? doh.gif
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my paypal account said, waiting for another parties to respond
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:54 AM

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both seller n buyer post the screen shot here, no more argue
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:58 AM

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i already pm my screenshot to him. ok have to go now.

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post Nov 20 2008, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(huakenny @ Nov 20 2008, 10:42 AM)
nowadays really headache to see junior or newly joined member in marketplace section....

so many problems and hell...all involves new member........ doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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huakenny I have heard of /seen senior members involved in bad deals.

I'm just helping build a case against this guy as I know in my heart he's
not being honest but that's my opinion from trying to deal with him myself.

2 people now complain about him about same thing....paypal funds reversed.

I may be a junior/newbie but I surely know what I'm talking about when
it's referring to a service I have used since it STARTED tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mojava @ Nov 20 2008, 10:59 AM)
huakenny I have heard of /seen senior members involved in bad deals.

I'm just helping build a case against this guy as I know in my heart he's
not being honest but that's my opinion from trying to deal with him myself.

2 people now complain about him about same thing....paypal funds reversed.

I may be a junior/newbie but I surely know what I'm talking about when
it's referring to a service I have used since it STARTED tongue.gif
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i oso junior...LOL...dun scare
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QUOTE(ronssel @ Nov 20 2008, 10:39 AM)
whatever just make a police report, and see who win.

im out. and i dint say i promise that it will not get reversed at my topic, and i dint say i will refund the money at my topic. so go make a police report biggrin.gif
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You promised last night to bank in Rm500 to the TS but now accused "you will not refund the money" ?
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post Nov 20 2008, 12:09 PM

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Seller is beating around the bush. Should answer questions to clear the buyers doubt on some issues raised unsure.gif
caerulln
post Nov 20 2008, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(ronssel @ Nov 20 2008, 10:58 AM)
i already pm my screenshot to him. ok have to go now.
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didn't i post the screenshot already?
what else do u need?
U don't want to refund my money?

THE DEAL IS U GIVE ME PAYPAL FUND & I GIVE U THE MONEY.
This problem is NOT included in the deal.
Basically it just voids the deal.
Which means, I return the fund (which paypal will reverse) & u refund my money in cash Ringgit Malaysia (which u promised yesterday RM500 first)

U haven't answered a lot of question.
Do u want me to make a list so it will be easier for u to answer?

If u want to meet in court, no problem.
I don't know how much money u got from conning people, but I doubt u can find a better lawyer than mine.
My family especially my father is not a stranger in court.
I will fight u & will definitely win. Then I will sue u for my time lost dealing with this shiet, causing loss of time to study for my exam, causing stress bla bla bla.. will consult my lawyer later.

Will lodge a police report tomorrow hopefully.
If u guys want to join together, it will be a great help.
I'm located around Bangsar.

I have been waiting for so long for someone to pick on me.
Now that he did, I won't let him go.
If u want this to end peacefully, transfer my money & everyone else involved (IN CASH RM) before we find u.
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post Nov 20 2008, 03:31 PM

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omg..i almost bought usd300 frm him last nite..but i didnt coz i manage to get it with other seller coz i need it urgently..
i really hope u got ur money back..i know how does it feels i also got con before and never get anything..
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post Nov 20 2008, 04:08 PM

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I've experience once before...bought funds from a seller here and paypal suddenly got held and fund reversed back to seller. But I was lucky my seller was really helpful and guide me on what should be done. I gave the required info asked by paypal and contacted them to quicken their investigation process....soon if a couple of days they let go of my account clean. I just want to confirm that we did sell something (goods or services) since we (the buyer) received payment (from seller). Don't know if I'm making sense here. Anyway...in this case it would really help if THIS seller be more responsible and try to solve the problems on his side and paypal and at the same time not abandon his buyers whose funds got reversed/ held back. Making excuses like saying the account isn't yours and not able to provide the necessary identifications will make you look like a conman in anyone's eyes (which I do hope isn't the case) whistling.gif

caerulln: You don't need to provide a screenshot of your paypal a/c. I also don't know why seller insisted you do so. Did you contact paypal yourself?

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post Nov 20 2008, 04:21 PM

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Let me ask u one direct question.
Are u a scamming me or not?
Just answer yes or no.

If u are not, how will u prove yourself?
If i'm satisfied, I will definitely give time for u to refund the money.
I can understand that the fund is being held for the time being & U used up the money already.
I'm a reasonable guy when people are reasonable with me.
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post Nov 20 2008, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(ronssel @ Nov 20 2008, 10:53 AM)
my paypal account said, waiting for another parties to respond
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what do u mean your paypal state that?
This is the screenshot u gave me:
[attachmentid=680104]

see the "response received from seller"
means i responded already.
BUT U haven't.
My paypal still reads waiting for another parties to respond
Please respond ASAP.

I'm contacting Paypal now.
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post Nov 20 2008, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Nov 20 2008, 04:36 PM)
what do u mean your paypal state that?
This is the screenshot u gave me:
[attachmentid=680104]

see the "response received from seller"
means i responded already.
BUT U haven't.
My paypal still reads waiting for another parties to respond
Please respond ASAP.

I'm contacting Paypal now.
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Yup...caerulln is right since he is the one receiving the payment from ronssel. Paypal recognize ronssel as buyer because he paid to caerulln. Paypal recognize caerulln as seller because he received the funds from ronssel.

ronssel: Should repond because paypal is waiting for YOU bro hmm.gif

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caerulln
post Nov 20 2008, 04:55 PM

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If u genuinely not trying to rip me of my money but maybe desperate or something, let me know.
We can work things out.
I know some people are in desperate needs of money they had to do anything to get it.
I know someone desperate for money holding a bulk order, took the money. In the end he said, supplier conned him. In reality he actually kinda "borrow" the money without they knowing. He did refund fully although rather late. Better late than never.
I don't know about u, but some thief had to steal just to merely keeping themselves alive.
I will help people like these. Let me know. I get u to do some job or something. No need to steal.
If i were given 2 choices: steal my money or give some job to do, I'll let u wash my car.
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post Nov 20 2008, 04:57 PM

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I'm just looking for ways to solve this peacefully.
I hate it when things get messy.
I don't want to go to jail.

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