http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/849813

A new seller trying to sell Paypal at a really low rate.
Of course I don't trust anyone who does not have much successful transaction in LYN.
I ask if he is willing to transfer 1st.
He did transfer 1st.
So i paid to his maybank immediately.

Amount: RM600+

This happens yesterday.

Next thing I know, the fund is reversed today
The seller does not know what happened.
Neither do I.

Seller use his brother's PayPal account to transfer back.
Then almost immediately, reversed also.

Funny thing, 1st paypal account have an Australian address.
2nd paypal account (supposedly his bro's) have an India email with no address provided.
Seller said we can easily change address. Fine.
Found the phone number of the account. Guess what. Prefix of India.

I had asked for his IC copy.
He didn't say anything or send it as requested.

He also keep asking for screenshots of my paypal showing the dispute.
I don't know the significance of it.
He should be able to monitor the dispute through his own account.

HOWEVER, I haven't concluded that the seller is a fraud.
Probably just some hiccups & unexpected problems.
I opened this thread just so I can discuss with fellow forumers.
Let see what the seller will say.

He seem to have sold some Paypal funds to other forumer (not sure) but they did not report any problem.
Paypal call for review of the transaction may indicate problem on my side or the seller reported (falsely) to Paypal.
However he denied any knowledge of how it happens & I don't see how I could have caused this.
I only use the paypal to buy stuffs online. I do not do any type of business, adsense or things like that.
Paypal is only used to buy stuffs.

Can some mod do tracing of his ip?
I will provide any proof needed.
I can still get to him. I have his maybank acc no. Which is enough for me to get his details, address, phone etc. Although will be a bit of a work.

This really sucks.
Especially happening while I'm having exam
Fortunately my US bulk is shipping soon & had ordered everything.

This post has been edited by caerulln: Nov 22 2008, 01:31 AM

as i said, i will refund to you for the second time, i dont know why you are the only one who i sell is like this, i also need a time to collect money to pay you, i already lost 400$ because of this which i really regret so much . Please be patient and when the Reversed payment pay back to my account i will Send it back to you.

and I closed the Thread Because im out of Money and My Paypal Is limited because of THIS!

This post has been edited by ronssel: Nov 20 2008, 01:10 AM

as i said, i haven't considered u as a fraud just yet.
& i kept saying that if u are legit, do not take offense.

Well..i risk losing rm600+
of course i'm anxious

U also haven't explain about the Australia & India address.
& u haven't sent me your IC copy.
the 3rd time i asked for it.
Just send your details to me.
Address, phone number, IC. Anything so u can assure me.

& why do u need the screenshots of my paypal?
u can monitor the dispute in your own account right?
explain pls.

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Added on November 20, 2008, 1:18 amNow are u yelling at me??
The right to yell should be mine.
Why? coz u have been avoiding & ignoring my questions & requests.

U don't need to close the thread.
Most reputable seller here keep their thread open even after stop their sale so their customer have a place to discuss.

I'm trying to be polite here.
I respect the possibility that u are a genuine seller.
Try to keep it that way.

This post has been edited by caerulln: Nov 20 2008, 01:18 AM

Are u implying that u will resend the Paypal fund?
I don't want the funds anymore.
I dont want Paypal to keep reversing the transaction.
I want CASH in Ringgit Malaysia
tq

And if I may be the devil's advocate....

Why did he state he only has 15 usd in this thread?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/841988


I got on msn with him yesterday interested in buying funds
but he said he had pm's so I said ok I'll be back in a few
after i smoke cigarette.

I come back he's off msn but online in lyn.. so I pm him then
he goes offline.

I see him on msn later 4pm or so & he ignores me after asking
him 3 times maybe in a 30 minute period if he is willing to sell.
He goes offline again not saying anything.

What does he have to hide?

I'm wise to stuff like this & I said nothing to make him act this way.

Please explain yourself & quit bs'ing the forumers....

yeah please explain the inconsistency.
I want this to end peacefully.
It is quite some time since someone pick on me.
I'm just waiting for the chance.
I don't care if it will cost more than rm600 just to "release" myself.

I can do something illegal through our country's legal loophole (we all know how our nation legal system works)

can we please wait 2 week after paypal pay me up?

haiz this sucks.
just send me what i requested.
& explain what need to be explained.
N.O.W.

first i need the screenshot of you paypal for finding out a way to cancel the reversal, why i need to give my ic?? well ok , i think im the one who wrong here, but i really want to meet you face 2 face to make this up, i swear that i will give you the fund when i get my money back.

Does his paypal name and maybank acc name match?
What about the India one?

no is not

the Australia things, i just wanna trip im a aussie, so i use this Public address as my address
this.

This post has been edited by ronssel: Nov 20 2008, 02:11 AM

so where & when can we meet?
just send me your IC photograph with a paper underneath it written "I AM ronssel"
do not scan. Take a picture. I just want to know who u really are.
I can do no harm with your IC copy.

When i started doing business here, some people did ask for my IC copy & I have no problem giving it.
I'm legit. Why do i have to worry?

u mean trick?
reason for that?
Why can't u use your real address?

Trippin = action..

trippin?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trippin

i don't understand.
rephrase your word.

i know im not as smart as you, is like

obviously not smart enough to understand the word.
Still don't understand.
why don't u use your real address?

& are u preparing to take picture of your ic with the writing?

can i refund you RM500 first because i also lost many money, is not fair for me , tomorrow i will go atm and cash it to you..

ok.
At least that will give me some assurance.
Remember to send me the proof (same like i requested for the IC copy. write on a piece of paper "i am ronssel", take photo)
post here once u bank in the money.

i cant is toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo private. i dont want to have a bad name or pic on the net.. please understand