hi everyone,

Remember in my other thread i mentioned that i was waiting for my offer letter? Today i received my offer letter. The Rm 600 allowance that i mentioned as site allowance was actually HARDSHIP allowance. Now, anyone here know wat is a hardship allowance?? Does it mean that my job gona be very hard or wat? Really hv no idea? Will be fully exploit me??

P/S: This company is a public listed construction company. I will be position in melaka for AEON shopping mall construction project. My basis will be 2500 + 600 hardship allowance + 300 food allowance.

WAT IS HARDSHIP ALLOWANCE????

1st time i heard bout this hardship allowance. i think that come to my mind is that maybe you need to work longer than office hour and also on weekend but you cant claim any OT for it. maybe this is the allowance for those hardship that you endure.
y don't you clarify this with the HR?

hehehe.. maybe it means something like 'kerja keras' allowance?

it is becos u gonna be position in melaka ma.. the 600 is like ur settling down allowance lor..

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Added on November 19, 2008, 11:01 pmA hardship payment is a reduced amount of Jobseeker's Allowance which you may be able to get if you have been refused Jobseeker's Allowance, or your benefit has been stopped, because of doubts about whether you are available for and actively seeking work. You can also get them if you are waiting for the Jobcentre Plus office to decide whether you meet the jobs seeking conditions or if you have been sanctioned
source: http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/life/b...ekers_allowance

more definition: Additional payment for working under adverse conditions, for example, outside during periods of extremely hot weather.
source: http://stats.oecd.org/glossary/detail.asp?ID=4908

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Added on November 19, 2008, 11:06 pmthe company very good lor since he takut u susah ma.. since u gonna visit construction site.. so they think tat is kind of hard for u so they giv u tat allowance la.. dont worry la..

This post has been edited by xavi5567: Nov 19 2008, 11:06 PM

as per xavi stated, additional payment for working under adverse conditions. may be u'll be working outdoors, out in the sea, middle of jungle or sea, remote area,etc. or it could simply be out of base allowance.

come on, how hard could it be in malacca?
easy money
hopefully.

hard lor.. cos TS will be visiting construction site.. hahaha.. no worry la u r a guy ma.. the most u get is get darker lor..

I guess hardship should mean visiting site lo. But since is AEON shopping mall construction. It wont be in remote area or jungle la ~ lol

Wat to do, nowadays earning money is hard. But as for a freshie, 3400 is consider really good liao. I will start my work on february. Wish me luck

hardship allowance i think means.... the company is sending you to melaka where u will be based at but the fact is your from KL. so... the RM600 is for you to settle down there away from your family.... perhaps thats wut it means?

unless your company is forseeing you to kerja buruh la.... suffer there.

Hardship allowance is an allowance type where the employee is required to undertake tasks outside of normal/standard scope.

This is highly variable meaning. Some examples of hardship allowance:
1) OT performed in a roles that does not have normal OT (year end financial closing)

2) Onsite work outside of office hours

3) Abnormal working condition (offshore/construction site/factory/outdoors)

It is not an allowance of people who have hardship (owe ahlong, medical condition, family problem).

wow quite a good pay. I still recall last time i got offered for only 1.7k flat with the same position. & yes it requires me to work on site all the time.

trust me, although the job is hard it will be a good job to keep your body healthy since you will sweat and physically walk or work around

hi, Vervain

So i guess you are an engineer. I m a mechanical engineer literally, coz i will be graduating end of this year.

How is your work in construction site?
How long have u been in this industry?
Mind to share more about the site visiting?


I have no idea as i never been to any construction site. This will be my first job as engineer. Hope you can give me some guidance here. Thx
Anything related to construction, plz anything at all, if u are willing to share, i will be more than happy to listen.

i thought there is only security payment like my friend who work in pelantar minyak. very risky being there. depend on your seniority

Alan, depends on what kind of position they offer. PE will manage plan the whole project. He will foresee the design and coordinate all work on site. Doing reports and liaise with customer and subcon to get all the job running. Yes job doesn't confine to concrete or steel based job. It will too require expertise from electrical and mechanical side. E.g on electrical wiring setup, ventilation system, lifts.. and so.

For QA/QC engineer, you will be involve with all scope of testing. Should there be any non compliance, you will need to resolve it together with PE or other consultant.

Working environment.. well, sometimes you can slack here and there, & when it rains all jobs come to a halt, unless you've complete the roofing. Working environment is hazardous. You'll be surprise with the accident rates on site. People communicates loudly/shout towards you with anger. Complete with ^&%&^$& language. Yes you will see 2 faced character. After 10 minutes of scolding in the Meeting, you will ended up with a good cup of tea with them as if there is nothing happen. life is tiring. you will work long hours, yes even off office hours. sometimes they will call you out in the middle of the night and you will have to be ready on site to coordinate or manage the situation. Late schedule will result in double shifts.

My previous job lasted about 8 months. Scope of work was on QS,Planning & HSE . Yes you will have to fill up some empty job position some times, but extra pay. Overall, you have to be smart. Don't trust anyone esp your supervisor or subcon. Thats why site visit is important to let you see the physical job running on site cause most people lie.

its not a bad job, but for me I dislike such life and low wages. 3.4k is alot for starters btw

no matter how hard it is, the allowance is subjected to EPF deduction. hard out of hard.