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Rayne
post Feb 11 2009, 08:07 PM

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Well, you can just attach the photos from your computer as attachments to your post...smile.gif

Thanks for the compliment on Scottie! biggrin.gif
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post Feb 11 2009, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Vickie @ Feb 11 2009, 09:18 PM)
Got that cheap meh?
I went to some pet shop to survey.
Schnauzer with MKA RM1680 leh..
If without MKA also need RM1300+ leh...
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Pet shops will of course mark the price up as they want to earn...if I'm not mistaken, the prices Jason said are from home breeders.
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post Feb 11 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(aragonlee @ Feb 11 2009, 10:41 PM)
i am not sure about the price of others i bought my white ms for 2.5k(comes with cage and other necessities)
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Wow, that is a really high price for a white Min. Schnauzer. I'm assuming Kenji does not have an MKA cert, since white Min. Schnauzers are not recognized by MKA?

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post Feb 11 2009, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(aragonlee @ Feb 11 2009, 11:09 PM)
Ya. Because they say white colour are very rare in Malaysia that why expensive. Ya, Kenji don't have MKA cert because white MS are not recognized by MKA. But in other country like USA they do recognized White MS. Some white ms will have MKA cert but stated there " salt and pepper".  hmm.gif  i wonder when MKA will accept white MS.... actually white MS already got about 100 years of history.
Wah, like that also can ar? shakehead.gif Very weird lo passing a white Min. Schnauzer as a salt-n-pepper. Oh well, as long as we love our dogs and keep them safe, healthy and happy, that's all that matters, no? smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 08:50 AM

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Genesis, I just noticed you are from Bukit Jalil...very near my place leh! biggrin.gif I'm from Sri Petaling wan...wink.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(h71y6 @ Feb 12 2009, 10:38 AM)
On another note:

Have you guys been watching Great American Dog reality show on Starworld? It's a kewl show for dog lovers.
I actually got inspired more by the show and i taught my dog new tricks:
1. Up, Turn! - Kimi stands and spins according to how many loops i make with my hand.
2. Bang Bang!! - Kimi starts a slow death. She goes prone, turns slowly to her side, and slowly plays dead. she'll stay there until i say Up.
3. Leave it - i always used the same No command for leaving things, so i decided after seeing the show to use a different command.

Anyone has other trick ideas i can teach her?  rclxms.gif
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I heard of the show too, but I don't have Astro to watch it. sad.gif It sure sounds cool though...I went to the website to read about the contestants and their furkids. SO CUTE!

Re: the Up, Turn! trick, do you teach Kimi to stand on two legs or she will stand like normal and turn? That trick sounds interesting smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(aragonlee @ Feb 12 2009, 10:20 AM)
Kenji now is super active and naughty. If i left him alone, he will keep yelling and make alot of noise. He will follow wherever we go, if we go into bathroom and shut the door. He will keep yell and make noise outside and try to bang the door. =.=
Puppy is like that wan ma...new environment will make noise wan smile.gif I remember Scottie likes to follow me wherever I go too...well,he still does it now. haha! But he won't bang the door la if I go to the bathroom. He will sit outside and wait for me. biggrin.gif Only in the bedroom he will scratch at the door want to come inside...smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Vickie @ Feb 12 2009, 11:14 AM)
Wow... the white MS and solid black MS are very cute la...
As i know is hard to get solid colour MS, is it?

I need some help!
My puffy very naughty recently. She can climb up to bite something from the table e.g. wallet. Then she will bring the wallet up to the chair and start to bite it till broke. I scold her hardly and punch her then lock her in cage also no used on her because she repeating the same act.

Can anybody suggest me some way to teach on her behavior?
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Not sure...probably, coz most of the Min. Schnauzers I got to see in person were Salt & Pepper or Black & Silver. The only black solid ones I saw were in a confirmation show. White ones only on photos...smile.gif

My trainer suggested using ground chillies' juice, diluted with water and spray on areas that you don't want your puppy to bite. If she bites your old wallet again, spray it with the mixture, then take like a drop of that mixture and smear it on your puppy's tongue. She would definitely feel the spiciness and smell the wallet's new 'smell'. After that, she probably wouldn't want to bite other things with that smell since it reminds her of that nasty experience.

I have yet to try this method though coz I'm very lucky in the sense that Scottie has been a very well-behaved and gentle boy since puppy. He doesn't bite other things in the house except soft toys and rubber toys, so I don't have to do any proofing. But my trainer does it all the time for new puppies who bite, and he's been training for more than 30 years, so I guess it's worth a try smile.gif Let us know if it works!
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Vickie @ Feb 12 2009, 11:36 AM)
haiz.. my puffy can not leh.... i use both hard and soft way.. she still repeating same act to me..
thinking need bring her go attend OB class but i unemployed now...
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Ermm...I don't think OB teaches that, but they do teach the dogs to 'Leave It', as in when presented with a distraction (like another dog walking by, food, etc), we tell the dog to Leave It, and they don't go after that distraction. No puppy proofing or toilet training...that you would have to learn from books or the Internet I guess.
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Vickie @ Feb 12 2009, 11:43 AM)
oh.. use the mixture...
i have need to try it out...
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The chillies you need to use is fresh chillies...tumbuk them until got juice, and use ONLY the juice to dilute in water...use a bit more water than the chillies' portion though. We just want it to be nasty, but not too nasty it spoils the dog's tongue. smile.gif Hope it will work!
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(geNesis623 @ Feb 12 2009, 11:48 AM)
Eh!yeah wor!then i can bring Pepper n visit u n Scottie la.... then v can share2 our knowlegde la since u r quite expert here...  biggrin.gif then u can prepare nice2 food for me n Pepper... drool.gif
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Hehe..sure sure! Would love to meet up! No la, I'm not an expert...still learning also ma. I just happen to have a good trainer and had some free time to pat pat with other experts and read...smile.gif Nice nice food ar, can...but I dunno how to cook wan wor...tongue.gif my Mom is a great cook though! biggrin.gif

Want to ask huh...you know the park at Bukit Jalil near the golf course there, where they got small replicas of buildings in other countries? I was wondering if we can bring our doggies there for walks ar? I like the sceneries there, and thought of taking Scottie there to take photos but not sure if I will get halau by the guards anot. If you've been there, did you manage to see any signs saying no pets allowed?
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post Feb 12 2009, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(geNesis623 @ Feb 12 2009, 12:01 PM)
I'm staying nearby d park bt i seldom go thr... biggrin.gif  bt i'll try 2 check it out today late evening whether v can bring doggies or not...i'm scared 2 bring Pepper thr too coz scared kena halau ma...
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Ok cool...thanks! No hurry to check it out if you're busy...but if you happen to pass by can let us know? Then if can bring our furkids, we can meet there also biggrin.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(aragonlee @ Feb 12 2009, 12:42 PM)
hi, ya both my dogs are taking "Fitness" kibbles now.....only my other dog (bebe) is very choosy for his food he doesn't eat unless he is really hungry. =.=
he will only eat a new pack of food (different brand) for 2 meals on the 3rd meal he will leave the food there till night or midnight only he will finish it.

Oh no...you shouldn't leave Bebe's food out and let him choose when to eat and when not to eat. That is why he choosy lo...you manja him too much ady biggrin.gif To break his habit you can just put down the food at his meal time, and leave it there for only 10-15 minutes. If he doesn't want to eat, pick up the bowl and keep the food away. No treats in between whatsoever. At the next meal (maybe in the evening if you feed twice a day, or if once a day the next day) put down the same food for him to eat. Healthy dogs won't starve themselves wan. Eventually he will get that when you put the food down, he must finish it or he won't get anything at all.


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yayaya have a cheras area gathering....i am desperate for some one who can show me how to train Kenji. He is always howling( like singing). When bebe stay with him he will keep quiet but when bebe comes and sit with me kenji will make lots of noise. Its going to be distracting and irritating for the neighbours. its weird because we dont really understand what he wants yet, when i put him in the cage he barks, when i let him out he will bark i let him play with bebe he will bark, i carry him he will also bark.
=.= hard to understand what he is trying to portray hahaha...any1 speaks puppy language?
Hehe...puppies are always jealous and VERY attention-seeking, which is why they cry/bark/whine when they see us playing with the other dogs. I experienced this with Scottie's puppies when they were with me smile.gif Everytime I play with Scottie and leave them in the playpen, they cry and make noise until I let them out to play together. Then only they play quietly...LOL!


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QUOTE(h71y6 @ Feb 12 2009, 01:55 PM)
Anyways, guys and gals, i found out that according to a ranking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intelligence_of_Dogs), MS is #12 in intelligence which is pretty impressive!!

It says it will learn a command >85% of the time in 5-15 repetitions!!

I can vouch for that.
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Here here...smile.gif Scottie is quite a fast learner too, but he also gets bored really fast. If I try to repeat more times, he will (I believe) purposely not obey me coz he doesn't want to do it that many times. LOL!


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post Feb 12 2009, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(h71y6 @ Feb 12 2009, 02:36 PM)
The best way to teach a dog not to bark is to teach it when to bark (on command).  brows.gif
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True...that or we can teach our dog to be quiet on command smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 02:44 PM

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Okay, I can't really explain how to teach the quiet command, so I found this link which just about tells it right, except that now when Scottie barks too much / too loud, I have to literally shout out the command. tongue.gif But he gets it still and will stop after one or two barks. smile.gif

http://www.findoutaboutdogs.com/Stop_Dog_Barking.html
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post Feb 12 2009, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(h71y6 @ Feb 12 2009, 02:52 PM)
I think you need 2 things... one to stop barking.. and one to bark.
Can't have one without the other i think.

If you teach Toro to bark, maybe he will stop.

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We can also distract our dogs from barking at whatever is agitating him. smile.gif I find that quite useful (sometimes) with Scottie. I just whip out a treat, ask him if he wants it(the treat) and get him to play the Watch game with me. smile.gif If all else fails, I bring him away from the distractions lo
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post Feb 12 2009, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(aragonlee @ Feb 12 2009, 02:54 PM)
lol ya i have tried that method many times. he can starve himself for 2 days on the 2nd day (midnight) only he will eat. but now with kenji around he will eat his food a bit. Because kenji will try his best to run to bebe's bowl once he finishes his. lol....
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I have heard of dogs that purposely won't eat for 3-4 days, after which they cannot tahan they will eat. It's a method people call 'tough love'. It might seem cruel, but we have to be firm sometimes. Main objective of training is to ensure WE get the desired behavior from our dogs, not the other way around (quote from my trainer). Allowing the dog to dictate when or what to eat is THEM training us already...smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 03:09 PM

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Well, if Bebe will only eat at the stroke of midnight on the 2nd day, I think you can extend the tough love until 3rd day morning to feed him. smile.gif Hope he won't be so picky soon...smile.gif

BTW, my name is Audrey smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(aragonlee @ Feb 12 2009, 03:10 PM)
ya its true, but he is still a puppy, dont think can train him yet....the pee and poo trainning is still on but havent seems to work yet....and he does not seem to response much to the NO command. lol....we r still trying....hopefully he will b like toro.  biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif
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I don't agree lo that puppies can't be trained in a small age. smile.gif I've trained before Scottie's pup since he was 8 weeks old...he knows how to Sit, Down and Come already, and when I say Quiet he will stop crying too. Like h71y6 says, we need to be patient and consistent lo. It's okay if they don't get it the first few times...you don't have to push the training to one whole hour every day. Just spend a few minutes throughout the day try to train him, and eventually he will get it. As puppies yes they will take a little longer to get what we want, but that doesn't mean they can't be trained smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(aragonlee @ Feb 12 2009, 03:13 PM)
hi audrey....hahah sometime we juz feel bad seeing him vomiting those yellow stuff thats why we will put the food out and let him eat....maybe i should try the harder way to make him learn to wait for his food and not the food waiting for him

thx for the advices.
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Wah...Bebe very geng lo, can just not eat even though he's vomiting bile already. :S Make sure he gets loads of water even though he's not eating yeah...smile.gif

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