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post Nov 16 2008, 04:07 PM

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P.I.M.P. how true, I really can't stand some Malaysians, who can't even speak good English but trying to talk like a Kiwi. Slangs, accent, how fake. I can accept if you speak like that to a Kiwi, but to me? Puhlez
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We can't change our accent even we have been living in overseas for more than 10 years unless we move there when we are small, like before primary school. We have our own Malaysian accent, this can't change. The only way we can change is to speak "proper" English or follow their way of speaking (means use the expression they usually use) in our accent. They can understand as well as long as it is English, not Manglish. It is not necessary to pretend to have a certain accent.
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Yeah thats right. Some just wanna show they have better English by maybe adding some accent. So fake. Why can't they just be themselves. I always tell my friends, if you guys come back from overseas & we meet up, whoever speak accent with me I'm gonna slap the heck out of you vmad.gif mad.gif . You guys better have your "lah"s behind. I cannot those those wannabe's. So fake.


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Unless you're in overseas since you're like a baby then its understandable. Not when you're there when you're 21yrs old. C'mon you still have your root. Dun be a faker. And people understand when you speak proper English without those "li" and "lah"s behind.


Added on November 16, 2008, 5:16 pmWanna add a lil bit more before I go to bed, 3.15am here now.

The accent you gain is just for your experience in communicating with your professors & other friends. Not for one to come home with accent & start looking down at people.

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QUOTE(CherryD @ Nov 5 2008, 12:41 AM)
Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

[B]Come on everyone share your experience!  rclxms.gif
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Been in Perth, Australia for 7 years now (2009 will be my eighth) and have been here since Year 12 (thats Form 6 back in Malaysia).

The people here are generally nice, friendly and helpful. When going to the checkout stand expect to get at least a "Hi" or "How do you do?" from the checkout chick or guy smile.gif If you're lost or just need directions or information in general, people are usually more than willing to help. This was the first striking contrast I've experienced compared to back in M'sia.

Lifestyle here is pretty laid back. We work Mondays to Fridays (though Friday is thought as slack Fridays tongue.gif) and we enjoy the weekend at the beaches, city, clubs and pubs. And as work unions here are pretty strong, the working lifestyle is also easy going and pays decently in comparison to the cost of living. 2 hours work can pretty much buy you a really fancy dinner somewhere.

Racists? Well in my time here I've yet to meet any. The aboriginals might mistake you for Japs, and that might cause some problems, especially with older aboriginals. With the Australians however, there's always that first hesitation to socialise. I find this mainly because they don't know if we are accustomed to their way (talk the talk, walk the walk. Speaking decent English would be a start). If you break that first ice block, you'd find they are pretty easy people to be friends with. My group of friends range from Malaysians and Singaporeans to Australians and South Africans. And we all share a keg after work. smile.gif

My decision to go overseas was pretty much not a choice at all. I've scored decently well in SPM (4As) but was rejected out of most local higher education institutions expect for Lim Kok Wing and a few other private institutes. A visit to an Australian education expo pretty much sealed that decision. Do I regret it? Absolutely not! smile.gif Studying here has really made me see the bigger picture of the world and definitely gave me invaluable experiences.

Homesick? Initially, sure. But as time went by that grew less and less. Right now the only thing I miss is the cheap shopping and great food biggrin.gif Now just earning Aussie dollars to spend back home feels pretty great!

I studied and graduated as a Bachelor of Information Technology, specialising in Networking and Communication from TAFE/Curtin. Now I work for an IT solutions company as a Network Engineer. I did actually return to Malaysia to work for about a year, but the meager salary offered combined with the fact Aussie dollar is stronger sent me packing back smile.gif

I always encourage anyone with the opportunity to, to leave their comfort zone behind and explore another region of your planet. And obviously I recommend Perth as it has the lowest cost of living between the major cities of Australia and its proximity to Malaysia.

Hope that gave a few people some insight to studying in Australia, feel free to drop a message if you'd like to ask more. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Nov 16 2008, 04:07 PM)
P.I.M.P. how true, I really can't stand some Malaysians, who can't even speak good English but trying to talk like a Kiwi. Slangs, accent, how fake. I can accept if you speak like that to a Kiwi, but to me? Puhlez
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Yeah thats right. Some just wanna show they have better English by maybe adding some accent. So fake. Why can't they just be themselves. I always tell my friends, if you guys come back from overseas & we meet up, whoever speak accent with me I'm gonna slap the heck out of you  vmad.gif  mad.gif . You guys better have your "lah"s behind. I cannot those those wannabe's. So fake.
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Unless you're in overseas since you're like a baby then its understandable. Not when you're there when you're 21yrs old. C'mon you still have your root. Dun be a faker. And people understand when you speak proper English without those "li" and "lah"s behind.


Added on November 16, 2008, 5:16 pmWanna add a lil bit more before I go to bed, 3.15am here now.

The accent you gain is just for your experience in communicating with your professors & other friends. Not for one to come home with accent & start looking down at people.
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Thanks Caedus for sharing your experience with us. Keep it coming people. rclxms.gif
I'm still choosing which university to study after my spm, maybe Purdue or North Carolina.I'm studying Business and IT btw, taking ADP in Taylors College, 2+2... Any recommendation? smile.gif

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I would think Purdue thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(CherryD @ Nov 4 2008, 12:41 PM)
Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

[B]Come on everyone share your experience!   rclxms.gif
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I love it and hate it here. Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation I should think. There are about 250 Malaysians here, and we make the top ten list of large international populations here at Purdue joining China, India and Korea. It's nice here most of the time, except if you can't handle weather that fluctuates like crazy then don't come here. The roads are awful because of the weather. I like it here because of the freedom. If anything, you should live in the dorms for at least a year. Make sure you do your homework and look at the fees, because I know some Malaysians who are attending Purdue and are transferring next year because it's too expensive (bodohnya).

Racism isn't a problem here, because like I said Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation. I have a lot of friends, my roommate and boyfriend say I know wayy too many Asians on campus xD I don't hang out with the Malaysians here because they all stick together and only ever hang out with each other (or at least that's my impression but whenever I bump into them, they're always in the same groups). I've been studying overseas since Form 4 - I finished high school in Japan. My parents accepted the assignment because they wanted my brother and me to have an equal opportunity at education, unlike what you get in Malaysia. I don't get homesick, because I've been trying to get out from under my parents' roof for a while now.

I think the real difference between studying overseas and locally is the pricing and the standard that you receive. Also, I'm doing the full four years overseas, and do not understand this twinning business that most Malaysians seem to like so much.

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Nov 16 2008, 11:50 PM)
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I love it and hate it here. Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation I should think. There are about 250 Malaysians here, and we make the top ten list of large international populations here at Purdue joining China, India and Korea. It's nice here most of the time, except if you can't handle weather that fluctuates like crazy then don't come here. The roads are awful because of the weather. I like it here because of the freedom. If anything, you should live in the dorms for at least a year. Make sure you do your homework and look at the fees, because I know some Malaysians who are attending Purdue and are transferring next year because it's too expensive (bodohnya).

Racism isn't a problem here, because like I said Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation. I have a lot of friends, my roommate and boyfriend say I know wayy too many Asians on campus xD I don't hang out with the Malaysians here because they all stick together and only ever hang out with each other (or at least that's my impression but whenever I bump into them, they're always in the same groups). I've been studying overseas since Form 4 - I finished high school in Japan. My parents accepted the assignment because they wanted my brother and me to have an equal opportunity at education, unlike what you get in Malaysia. I don't get homesick, because I've been trying to get out from under my parents' roof for a while now.

I think the real difference between studying overseas and locally is the pricing and the standard that you receive. Also, I'm doing the full four years overseas, and do not understand this twinning business that most Malaysians seem to like so much.
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Friend, you finished your Form 5 in Japan, so this means you are more well-to-do than the majority. Twinning programmes are necessary because that way we can save on the living expenses for the first 2 years we're still in Msia.

As for studying in the States, I'm considering it and have recieved many positive comments. The general perception seems to be: Anywhere but here.
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QUOTE(katana18 @ Nov 16 2008, 12:41 PM)
Friend, you finished your Form 5 in Japan, so this means you are more well-to-do than the majority. Twinning programmes are necessary because that way we can save on the living expenses for the first 2 years we're still in Msia.

As for studying in the States, I'm considering it and have recieved many positive comments. The general perception seems to be: Anywhere but here.
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well, I don't understand how it works that's all. Some of them do 3+1 and some do 2+2 or whatever it is ... and some people who do it lord it over me that they've studied overseas. Uh huh.

But yes, the consensus is "anywhere but here" for malaysians. smile.gif Most malaysians prefer the UK though.
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QUOTE(alwayshappy @ Nov 16 2008, 04:51 PM)
We can't change our accent even we have been living in overseas for more than 10 years unless we move there when we are small, like before primary school. We have our own Malaysian accent, this can't change. The only way we can change is to speak "proper" English or follow their way of speaking (means use the expression they usually use) in our accent. They can understand as well as long as it is English, not Manglish. It is not necessary to pretend to have a certain accent.
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I have to say, you are quite wrong on that point... I've got a friend who spoke broken english and always had that ahbeng accent. The minute he moved to UK to further his studies (A-Levels in UK), he changed. He came back only about 3 months after being there, and next thing I know, he was another chinese-turned-gweilou... laugh.gif

But it all still depends on the person, how much does he/she adapts to the environment; to blend in with that silly accent or not... wink.gif
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Mind me asking are you M'sian citizen or U.S perm. resident? Good exposure & experience you have there.


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Depends on individual. Again, a lot of factors taken into account. Like who you mix with, how often you mix, what you do during your free time. But its cool thumbup.gif thumbup.gif. Just don't use some foreign accent in M'sia & try to be different.
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QUOTE(P.I.M.P @ Nov 16 2008, 04:38 PM)
Mind me asking are you M'sian citizen or U.S perm. resident? Good exposure & experience you have there.
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I am a Malaysian citizen, but I sound American ... unless I'm back in KL and start using all my 'lahs' and 'mehs' again. xD

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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Nov 15 2008, 06:40 PM)
though my uni is ranked top 50 in the world, i think many of my lecturers are useless.
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i think university rankings are pretty useless in most cases.

i say go overseas, just for the exposure. what u study would be roughly the same anywhere but exposure,culture would be very good experience. and for engineering, research/thesis is another consideration.
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That's cool. It happens. I get comments from other Americans telling me they don't believe I'm from M'sia. I'm not praising myself here. But I've been speaking English all my life, except with my parents. So I guess that's part of the reason I'm okay with English.

But for those who would like to improve their English, they must not fear to talk to others even with their broken English. After some time, your English will improve. rclxm9.gif
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That's cool. It happens. I get comments from other Americans telling me they don't believe I'm from M'sia. I'm not praising myself here. But I've been speaking English all my life, except with my parents. So I guess that's part of the reason I'm okay with English.

But for those who would like to improve their English, they must not fear to talk to others even with their broken English. After some time, your English will improve. rclxm9.gif
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Btw are you guys living in dorms/hostel/or renting rooms? if you're living in a dorm/hostel whose your roommate? you guys get along well? how was ur first experience when u first met your roomate. Do you go like : "Heyyy whats up man! I'm ???, how are you...where you from?" u know stuff like that...
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Haha. Me too, then I told them i'm not a citizen.

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I'm living off campus. Rent an apartment. Living with another M'sian here. There are pros & cons living on & off campus. Kinda late now, lazy to type. I'll leave it to spunkberry to comment. Maybe I'll add to it.

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QUOTE(CherryD @ Nov 17 2008, 01:43 AM)
Btw are you guys living in dorms/hostel/or renting rooms? if you're living in a dorm/hostel whose your roommate? you guys get along well? how was ur first experience when u first met your roomate. Do you go like : "Heyyy whats up man! I'm ???, how are you...where you from?" u know stuff like that...
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I'm living on campus in the dorms. I requested my roommate this year - freshman get assigned roommates and I didn't get along at all with my roommate last year, in fact it was hell. When I met her for the first time, it was good ... and I thought we would have a good year. Haha turns out we no longer talk and she basically hates my guts. No we didn't have the "what's up man" thing. Basically, having a roommate assigned to you makes you go out of your way to get along, which is a good skill to have.

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