Lol. Batuapi dude.. u really know how to press the right buttons on 99% of the members here. The purity of this discussion is long gone.. But I still feel like trying out some behringer pedals. Personally i hate effects, but I am starting to realise the importance of things like a compressor and a noise gate. plus i'll probably need something to boost my amp. anyone know where i can go out and test some behringer pedals?? AVEM has some.. But I only saw like 3 models at their shop. Anywhere else?

Recording gear, Guitar, Amp makes the difference. You should check out and listen to it yourself or other youtube videos. Normally if the clean sound sucks (it's bypass mode) more or less the recording gear/amp/guitar is the culprit.
User error. If it isn't user error, then the Sansamp GT2 probably wouldn't cut it for you either.

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You must be one of those noobs who don't know how to power their pedals with the right adaptor. Yet you're supposedly an Engineering student.

Make sure you pass your exams, graduate and get a job then buy your own pedals with your own money and don't sponge on your mom and dad's and try to look knowledgeable on borrowed money here.

My EQ700 is still working fine here, no problem. I bet you'll crap out your boss pedals soon with whatever it is you're powering them with. *LOL*
A person who gigs with behringer pedals disagree with your noobish experience.
http://robtognoni.com/behringer_review.htm

If this gets out of hand and turns into a flame thread (remember the last time bman???), I'll have to close and delete this thread........

If it isn't user error, then the Sansamp GT2 probably wouldn't cut it for you either.

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So what if I am, so what if I am not ? Do I need your respect? No need buddy. I don't have an inferiority complex. People like you and some who try to cari pasal are the ones who DEFINITELY have an inferiority complex because you don't agree with me. Just because I am opinionated? Don't like don't read lor. What is so difficult ? Come come, rag at me all you want. You guys are good at that in a group.

You must not be very smart. Don't you realize I am not supposed to care much what others think? That's why I am batuapi. I suka enough liao.

I don't live for anyone or their expectations. I say what I like, and I do what I like. You don't like it, TOO BAD, SO SAD.
I got nothing to gain or lose here because I am not interested in making networks/friends in this particular forum.

I am happy to say whatever the fart I like and if it offends you then don't read.

You need to lose some weight buddy! And be gentle with your gear.
Your girlfriend ever complained about you being rough in bed?
Anyway, some people are going to start saying.
Buy used boss pedals then.
My retort.
1. There're many stupid dumb guitarist who have no proper techie knowledge. Only know how to shred but don't know about polarity, milliamps, filtered/unfiltered.

2. Which will result in these idiots using cap ayam adapters which would work but will wear/shorten the life span of your components in the pedal, even with right voltage/polarity but unregulated adapters will shorten life span if not outright blow the pedal.
So boss pedals may be made of metal, rugged and tahan lasak, but it's only as good as the intelligence of the user when you buy used.

You never know what the idiotic previous owner used to power the pedals.
The pedal may look new and solid outside but components inside may have worn because of incorrect adapters and therefore might introduce more noise.
Boss pedals nowadays used EQUALLY CHEAP transistors compared to Behringer but they're selling you 2-3x more just for the metal casing? I say they're cheap components that's why you have so many pedal mods for DS-1 and the likes, by replacing the cheap caps/transistors used inside with better ones.

They're not even true bypass and their bypass FET buffers are crap and sucks some decibles off and results in some tone loss.
If that's the case why need to spend so much money on a boss pedal?

Why pay 300++ for a metal zone MT2 when I could easily get an UM300 for rm 120 and below ?

Settings in the boss mT2 manual can be used identically in the um300, result is same sound no difference.

Behringer gets bashed in forums because of American elitism. The news about behringer reverse engineering boss pedals to give consumers affordable alternative caused a smear campaign against behringer by other competitors such as boss and the likes to start and elitism religion where anyone using behringer is insulted and humiliated as a typical DVD/pirate user/buyer.

Behringer is cheap but they're in no way inferior sonically to BOSS equivalents.

The ones who bashed behringer the most are those who judge using their eyes and not their ear.

We don't have to follow the yankies because we're not earning as much and no reason to believe them when they say they're superior.

The electronics/electrical industry is built on reverse engineering and competitively priced products.

The japs did the same thing with video players and cars back in the old days so how is what Behringer doing any different ?

Why should we jump into the behringer bashing bandwagon without evidence, and follow all the rubbish prejudism/biased the americans have on behringer just because of their so called moral believes which are selective.

You don't see them bashing their own american companies that reverse engineer non-american company products.
More evidence that Roland/Boss is an arrogant company that sues it's own customers.

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?thresh...hange&sid=81959

Utter rubbish spouted by a NOOB.

You have absolutely no idea what gobbledygook you're talking about.

If Boss pedals are 'quality' made as you claimed, then why are so many people seeking the BOSS vintage MADE-IN-JAPAN pedals and avoid the MADE-IN-TAIWAN equivalent ?

It's simply because production of pedals made in JAPAN used better quality caps and transistors compared to their current Taiwan batches which clearly used inferior caps and parts.

If you've even the slightest cow sense to read schematics of modded pedals, you'd realize how the modders changed poor cheap caps to better ones and improved the sound of the pedals, especially DS-1, Blues Driver and various others.

BOSS is a BUSINESS entity, and as a business entity they will maximise profit and the trend in seeking vintage JAPANESE BOSS pedals compared to their modern equivalent clearly shows BOSS has cut corners in their TAIWAN made pedals in order to maximise profits.

Behringer does the same thing BUT they do not charge and ARM and a LEG for their pedals.

Even if one managed to find a Vintage BOSS pedal, there's no guarantee it will have another 5 or 10 years of useable life. Anything that runs on power will wear down eventually especially with inappropriate power, so it amuses me that vintage pedal collectors are willing to pay MORE price for a MADE-IN-JAPAN pedal than a new taiwan stock which will definitely last longer since components are newer.

These, vintage seeking trend, amuses me to no end, all started by elitist pedal collectors who knows jack sh*t about anything other than 'tone'.

Nothing lasts forever, it will wear out eventually and BOSS no longer makes quality pedals. They're just riding on their past glory.

All those who thinks the vintage pedals are gonna last forever are DELUDING themselves. My source tells me he had so many returned BOSS pedals that he sold to customers, and my guess is many idiots don't know how to power them properly. Only know how to shred shred shred but can't be bothered to find out proper side knowledge.

Thanks to China's mass production factories we could have equivalent stuff for much less money, especially from Behringer, the earliest adopter of Chinese factories long before any other pedal competitors went to china for production.

User error. If it isn't user error, then the Sansamp GT2 probably wouldn't cut it for you either.

Actually it was all fine, some egoistic people just can't stand someone else having an opinion, maybe not in this thread but others in the past. Who cares about their feelings? They didn't give a damn about mine so all is fair and square.

Siapa makan cili dialah yang rasa pedas.

Students who're not earning yet and sponge from their parents to buy first class gear and then act like mr-know-all do not command my respect. Sorry folks, don't be coming to tell me about this and that gear is good, especially when you don't earn your own keep or buy your own gear.

Most in this forum, probably tend to come from rich family and don't need to work and use their own money to buy their own gear. Then you have skullface no talent deathmetal cookie monster fags that go around accusing others of being stingy with gear when in actual fact these fags sponge off their parents to buy expensive gears and come into the forum talking like they know tone and quality over everyone else.

Holy wall of text.Here's my question to you, have YOU ever played the Hellbabe?I really have no idea about the other Behringer pedals, but I hated mine.So speaking from my experience, it sucked.Perhaps the other Behringer pedals you 'endorse' are up to boutique pedal standards but my Hellbabe was absolute rubbish.

Anyway TS, I would purchase a Biyang or Danelectro pedal if I were you because of my bad experience with that POS.I've tried a Biyang Metal King(That's the model if I'm not mistaken) and it was seriously good.Better than an MT-2,IMO.

wow batuapi
u seems to have info to anything about pedals.
thanks for sharing the info to me..

wow batuapi
u seems to have info to anything about pedals.
thanks for sharing the info to me..




are you sure?

Do realize, these 2 recent posters are salesmen so of course they will be biased against what they don't sell.

They just want you to part with your money to them.

They get better margin selling boss stuff.
I am not selling you anything, I am giving you options other than the usual.

When I started out new with pedals I don't like getting bombarded with only BOSS overpriced stuff  like how a salesmen forced me to when I asked for cheaper alternatives like behringer.

are you sure?