hello people

i was going thru a mag abt guitars..
till i saw this section about boss pedals and i relise that they have
a lot of the similiar...i think...
what im trying to ask here is :

-Whats the diffrent between Boss pedal Metal core and metal zone?

-overdrive, overdrive/distortion and super overdrive?

-distortion, turbo distortion, mega distortion?

care to help me explain what are the diffrence sound wise and what kind of music it is for

thanks....ur help is much appreciated!!

I THINK.. distortion is mostly the same. just different degrees. think papa roach. overdrive is for more of a clean sound with single notes (with more bite), but when you play a chord it sounds just slightly distorted. think john mayer's slow dancing in a burning room. for OLD OLD tube overdrive think jimi hendrix or AC/DC. and trying the metal zone and metal core pedals.. they both sound the same. get that kind of high gain-easy-to-get-artificial-harmonics-even-if-you-didnt-want-it kind of sound. metal core more for the low end kind of chug, and metal zone for the high/mid heavy kind of tone. think slayer, iron maiden, trivium etc.. this is my opinion tho. dont take it as gospel.

This post has been edited by ianhooi: Nov 5 2008, 03:07 AM

haha i guess it is to cater to the various tastes in music out there.
each musician wants their own unique sound mar.

and also a sales gimmick la

I remember posting exactly the same question when I just got started in the guitar thread, but a "veteran" guitarist there told me to listen from the official boss website to hear the difference.

Now I understand when u post the same question under a new thread u get better answers. Lol, jk...

yeah ipohboy
if im not mistaken i was in ur thread be i post this topic..
but sadly i was still blur abt it and mostly it did not answer my question..

and ive listen to the metal core and metal zone on the boss web..
i still cant hear the diff...( maybe my ear problem..damn)

aniwei i just think that this two are the same..
hahah...
do u think so ?

haha! sales gimmick. i lol'ed at that

must be this gimmick thing....

I have a SD1, DS2, and MT2.
SD1, Just some normal overdrive - adding tone to your notes without getting dirty

DS2, tones get distorted, can switch between normal or turbo mode

MT2, dirty and noisy. Good for metal music, marvelous sustain and easy to get harmonics

wow i din know abt that batuapi...
haha roland is that terrible huh ?
okay..where can i get berhinger then ?
does berhinger has the same products as boss??
get it from our resident lenglui sarcast??
sorry..who is she ??

thanks

aww.. too bad im not leng lui...
hmm thanks for the list of pedals, it could help me too..

lol lol... the link .. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/818527

HELLBABE HB01 - Dunlop Crybaby from Hell

I'm not too sure if you'd say that the Hellbabe equals the Crybaby.I used to have one,but it was a complete POS.

wow u really diggin this batuapi...
u've really filled me in...with this infamous fact abt roland/boss...
i mean it really changed my perspective...
u know thanks alot..
i think i will look for berhinger...
ive heard if this brand but i rarely see it anywhere...
but u intro me to sarcast...
i might consider get it from her....

just a random tought...
how come u know all this?
when did u started to become an anti-roland..
haha...

keep in touch

done blurting out your knowledge yet? you want a medal for that? no need to shoot freakfingers for nothing.

well you seem to b!tch about a lot of things. this is life man, deal with it. you think you 1 person can make everyone boycott roland, of all brands? who do you think you are?

people buy roland products for a reason. you get what you give, quality made products. if you prefer to stinge on everything you see then by all means, do it i dunno if you're content with that, but as long as its cheap i think you will be.

but this doesn't mean that all behringer products are bad, ive tried some and i own a behringer amp. i just prefer roland. now sue me.

Which is why I buy MXR pedals

Don't kill me!!!!!

But I have to agree with batuapi and say that some Boss ARE overpriced. Compared to the US (which I do go often), Boss pedals are dirt cheap, which is why almost everyone there uses. It isn't much of a price diff in the US between Boss and Behringer, and even that..... Danelectro has some awesome pedals that are REALLY dirt cheap.

But again, it's all a matter of taste. I personally DESTROY my pedals. I don't care about losing weight..... I'm fat. I don't give a damn.... I want mah chicken! And I want a pedal that can take the abuse. These are just some of my observations..... again..... this is according to MY taste. Your opinion can be totally different, and I can respect that.

So far, I own a MXR ZW-44 Overdrive, M169 Analog Delay, ZW-45 Wah, GCB95 Wah and the MXR Power Brick. Then there is the Digitech Hardwire TL-2 Metal pedal and the Whammy, as well as the Boss NS-2 noise Reducer. Of all these pedals, the one that I really want to change is the boss pedal..... mostly because it doesn't meet my expectations for a noise reducer at the moment. Also, I find most Boss (and Behringer) pedals too digital for my liking..... again..... THIS IS JUST MY PREFERENCE. I'm not forcing my opinions down your throats...... I'm just writing what I like.
I've heard many Electro Harmonix pedals and they sound awesome as well, but I don't really need some of their pedals and would stick to something I like.

I've tried so many other delay pedals, and they sound either too digital, or not enough options for me. My MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay is so far the sweetest I've heard. The slap back config is EXCELLENT and I use it a ton on cleans. The MXR Chorus pedal is the other pedal high on my wish list, mostly because it sounds so damn good. I've tried the Boss pedals, but they don't really match the sound that I'm after. Maybe the CE-5, but I'd rather invest in the MXR as it lasts longer (Subjective, but that's what I feel). I've tried so many other chorus, but they either lack features (like a 3 band EQ) or doesn't sound as "sweet" to me.

And as for overdrives......... my ZW-44 Overdrive is perfect for overdriving my semi-hot Marshall, aand really don't want to try anything else. My undying whorness for Zakk Wylde might also be apart of that.

Also, some of you might know that I've been looking for awhile to get a Metal distortion..... something like a Mesa in a box, and the Livewire was the closest I could get. It's basically a souped up Metal Zone, which is what I was looking for in the first place. You should give the Livewire series a test. They are quite awesome.

I dunno what I'm rambling about, but the bottomline is, try out pedals and THEN judge for yourself if it's good or not. Sure, Boss might be overpriced, an MXR even MORE overpriced, but if it sounds good to you, then it'll be worth every single cent you paid for.

hmmm im not on sides actually..=)
but u got a point there....
and batuapi has his own points as well..
i guess now its all up to ur own knowledge to decide..
eh...
i used to bought my bass at roland....hmm...
just a quick tought....
is bently under roland????

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Added on November 7, 2008, 1:18 amwhen i went to woh fatt in KL..2 days ago...to get a tuner..and some picks..
they say the same thing about boss...
because i asked them about the metal core...

aniwei
now blacktrix just gave me a new name in
the world of pedals..
MXR..
and what do u mean by " sound to digital"
please tell me...
but according to u..MXR is very pricey eh??
where can i find these pedals?

thanks=)

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Added on November 7, 2008, 1:20 amfreakfingers12.....is that john petrucci on ur display pic??

This post has been edited by beastwars: Nov 7 2008, 01:20 AM

Batuapi........ you can argue your point all you like. Not a problem for me. In fact, I welcome it. Your opinion definitely matters and you have been a good, if not great contributor......

But any name calling just makes you feel like a whiner and someone who can't win an argument who has to resort to name calling.
If you want any respect, please change the tone of your posts.
That goes the same to you too SweetTooth.

If this gets out of hand and turns into a flame thread (remember the last time bman???), I'll have to close and delete this thread........

yeah....
i like all ur debates and such...
it widens my horizon in looking for the right pedal...
but lets not get too creeckhy...

ok here's another tought...
ive listen to the sounds samples on boss and behringer websites...
i found that behringer sounds...is erm less than i expected...
please tell me if this is a faulty of the sound recording from behringer
or behringer really sounds like that???

thanks..

Well, actually, that is what most hobbyist and recording artist does. Most artists use standard Boss pedals, (yes made in Taiwan ones included). Quite simply because they need what works not stinge on every little detail of the tone which can't be brought out with the simplicity of a 1 amp 1 pedalboard setup.
This also says something other than what you call Boss a cheap business oriented company is that we're paying for reliability as well.

Sure you can say that the tonality of a copy, say Behringer is similar but you also get what you pay for. Don't forget that the pedal not only runs on capacitors and resistors, they also run on a myriad of other components like the switches, instrument jacks and such. And for your information, those are the parts that suffers the most wear and that you should be complaining about. Even some mods use carbon resistors. Why? you may ask, quite simply because it serves a different purpose. Metal films sure have low noise but they aren't able to dirty a signal which makes it less preferred (in many cases) for the built of a distortion pedal. So your argument about parts, is a little shaky.

I've had a Behringer and it crapped out on me in a year, and I mainly play at home in my room. Given that, the pedal did do its job, but what I see now is a hundred bucks down the drain because the pedal didn't even last a year, will cost me more money (probably 30-50 bucks) for a fix and it has little resale value.
On the other hand, I have a 20 year old Boss pedal, which is still kicking strong. I'm quite sure my newer MIT Boss would last that long as well.

And those vintage collectors whom amuses you, why are you so affected by their affinity for vintage gear? Sure, they may know jacksh-t bout anything other than tone, so what? If it makes them happy then so be it. What has it to you?

Also I'd like you to respect all others who don't share the mind path as you do. Sure you can rave, praise and worship cheaper alternatives all you like. But it makes no sense, shows no maturity in calling names to people who disagrees. You may not like it, but it's easy to just set aside the differences right?
And by the way, please don't undermind anyone whom aren't really interested in finding out how things work. It's just who they are, and if you have a problem with that, keep it to yourself.

i had a Behringer GD121 before ..

first when i bought it , @ RM150 ...
i realized that the pedal kick ass ...for RM150 ..and you're getting almost 70% of Sans amp GT-2 ...

But okay lah ..that is just for playing in the bedroom lah right ? ..


later i tried playing it at a gig ..
It couldn't cut through ..

it feels very thin , even after i pump the mids from the amp ..
it is not something that can fight with keyboards or cymbals..
definitely not what i'm looking for ..

i sold it off..

Everdying just sold his off too right ? maybe he can give us some of his experience with GD121


so my conclusion is ..GD121 , is a great pedal , for RM150 ..yeap..reliability is there as well..
but it is limited lah for bedroom , and maybe recording (you can use it as a DI also right..)

but for gigs ? nah . ibanez TS9DX still works the best ..and blacktrix was mentioning about MXR carbon copy ?
darrencw has one , i tried it that day ...kick ass pedal ..totally blew my mind ..

This post has been edited by gapnap: Nov 7 2008, 03:01 AM

Lol. Batuapi dude.. u really know how to press the right buttons on 99% of the members here. The purity of this discussion is long gone.. But I still feel like trying out some behringer pedals. Personally i hate effects, but I am starting to realise the importance of things like a compressor and a noise gate. plus i'll probably need something to boost my amp. anyone know where i can go out and test some behringer pedals?? AVEM has some.. But I only saw like 3 models at their shop. Anywhere else?