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This post has been edited by ianhooi: Nov 8 2008, 10:35 AM

hmmmm

batuapi ..in my opinion ..there are some things that you are not clear about ..and you clearly don't understand..
which is okay ..cos you not in KL i guess or less exposure ..


1.dealers and warranty ...
have you ever tried claiming warranty in Malaysia ? even if you buy brand new Behringer , or BOSS ...
As long as a product is not in a sellable condition
there is no such thing as 1 to 1 exchange policy ..even if you manage to exchange 1 to 1 because the owner is your friend or anything..
the cost of exchange is bear by the dealers , not the suppliers ..

you bring your spoiled behringer to the place where you bought in JB , they will ask you to take it to Jalan Pasar Branch , or their supplier ..
when you reach there , Jalan Pasar Branch will tell you there is no stock ..and keep pushing it away ..

they will only repair your pedal AT MOST , but you gotta pay for the parts ..

plus , at every warranty card ..it states..
the moment a buyer uses another adapter that isn't BOSS (Or Behringer)
the warranty is void ..

even the slightest modification , or some brands , when you open to see your circuit board
warranty is void ..

not easy to keep it you know .




2.Things are changing , there is warranty in buying used gear ..

maybe you're in JB , too caught up in the JB-Singapore Gear price war..
so you don't really understand how things in KL are like ..
there is warranty if you buy second hand products..
there are people who are trying to make a difference ..
i can name you many ..

Tone zone , Fret dance , Fatty n skinny , guitar pro shop , guitar kaki , awakening ...
all of them provide warranty for 2nd hand products ..they all hired their own technicians to maintain them ..

most of the shops have a ready physical shop , with ready technicians to treat the spoil products ..
some of it even better , offer you 100% cash back guarantee ..

How long will the warranty of brand new products last ?
1 year ? ...2 years at most .

How long will the warranty of used gear sellers last ?
they are your friend , and you know them personally(if you in KL) . definitely much longer than brand new



3.On dealers and discounts .
i got this when you mentioned , They get better margin selling boss stuff.

every dealer knows , there is no such thing as that ..bro..
we get discounts , based on the PRODUCT , not on the BRAND ...

Give example , Deadeye's Microcube ..
he is giving away 25% off for a roland microcube , try asking him how much is he selling other roland products
the answer is , he can't give you 25% on other roland products ..
the reason is simple ,
either the supplier wants to CLEAR all the microcube (over supply) , there is a target sales on microcube..
all this are adjusted and determine by the supplier ..

Same goes for Behringer ...
Normal Dealers are getting 20% off for Behringer ..
There was a period of time , few years back , Behringer wanted to clear ALL their sound system products ...
the whole thing was going for 30% off ..
but , their microphones , headphones , DI BOX that are selling so well , the most they will give is 15% off..

that is why , you go CK music sales ..
not everything is 20% off
VOX AD VT-XL can go up to 35% off ...
but , the old Vox AD series , only can go up to 15% off ..

same brand , different products ..

and the point is ..
there are things , for BOSS ..we make better margins than Behringer...yes ..
but there are also certain Behringer products , we make much HIGHER margins than BOSS ..hint..amps.
i am sure deadeye and guitarkaki have access to Behringer stuffs if you ask

This post has been edited by gapnap: Nov 8 2008, 02:01 PM

cool i got dragged in cos of fagnap

my GDI21...i got it brand new for RM70...clearance stock.
i had a GT2 as well, decided to try the GDI21 as ppl said it was similar but with more gain, from the early batches when the sansamp original was just that...original and not renamed classic.
well, only the more gain part was correct.
but pedals also do not do that well in live as they are made more for direct recording.
but heck, even the sansamp most ppl use it for adding warmth to vocals etc rather than for guitars.

well, first thing u can start is by convincing the masses and not just this forum then.
some figures for u from google.

avg searches per month WITHIN malaysia
for boss, these are the top 3 searches.
boss pedal - 49,500
boss pedals - 33,100
boss effects pedals - 5,400

behringer pedal - 28
behringer pedals - 2,900

the top behringer searches are for their DJ equipment suprisingly, even that also its under 10,000.

I already told you that if you caused problems here bman....... will close the thread.
Well you just did that. Congrats.
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