i had a Behringer GD121 before ..

first when i bought it , @ RM150 ...
i realized that the pedal kick ass ...for RM150 ..and you're getting almost 70% of Sans amp GT-2 ...

But okay lah ..that is just for playing in the bedroom lah right ? ..


later i tried playing it at a gig ..
It couldn't cut through ..

it feels very thin , even after i pump the mids from the amp ..
it is not something that can fight with keyboards or cymbals..
definitely not what i'm looking for ..

i sold it off..

Everdying just sold his off too right ? maybe he can give us some of his experience with GD121


so my conclusion is ..GD121 , is a great pedal , for RM150 ..yeap..reliability is there as well..
but it is limited lah for bedroom , and maybe recording (you can use it as a DI also right..)

but for gigs ? nah . ibanez TS9DX still works the best ..and blacktrix was mentioning about MXR carbon copy ?
darrencw has one , i tried it that day ...kick ass pedal ..totally blew my mind ..

This post has been edited by gapnap: Nov 7 2008, 03:01 AM

brother ..maybe you should stop relying on youtube ...


you see , i own both pedals at the same time ..plus i gig with both of em' ...
i had compared it side by side ..
a youtube video wouldn't change my opinion..


okay , lets not go into the fact that video recordings ..will actually change the tone , different riggs and stuff ..too pointless to argue about that..i think you and i can understand each other at this level...


thing about this video is ..
did he tweak , the Bass and Treble knob ? or he remain at 12o clock ..

Sansamp GT-2 EQ range..is much better than the behringer ..as i increase the trebles of both pedals , i find that GD121 increase much lesser , both trebles and mids ..compared to GT-2 ..

so what happens when my Trebles on both pedals are both full ...
it became very different ..
GT-2 was screamin' ...GD121 still sounded like it was 12 o clock...

You can visit me at SS2 if you wanna test ..i can show you but i dont have GD121 now ..

i will not comment on other behringer pedals , cause i nvr owned them before ..
i think Behringer makes excellent mics and bass amp ..even their starter pack guitar is not bad ..
but GD121 , really tak boleh lah..

This post has been edited by gapnap: Nov 7 2008, 12:53 PM

well...my parents stopped funding me since 16..

my alternative was 2nd hand ...Jamtank and ibands were the early ones ..

anyway ..something strike me lah...


batuapi..

i see your point lah ..between BOSS vs Behringer ..but we're talking about buying Brand new right ...
what about the alternatives ...2nd hand stuff..

fact 1: there are very little , close to none , behringer 2nd hand pedals for sale ..

fact 2 : there are plenty of used BOSS DS-1 , going for RM100 , SD-1 going for RM90 , CH-1 going for RM150 ..etc..even here @ lowyat..
let alone lelong , jamtank , ibands , ebay ..

price of behringer pedals , between RM120-RM200 ?

isn't a used BOSS pedal , almost the same price with a Brand new Behringer pedal ? and it is not hard to find a mint condition BOSS ..
if i were to choose between a behringer , and a used BOSS at almost the same price , knowing that BOSS will have a better resale value ..i would pick a BOSS ...right ?


Plus , the distributor of Behringer in Malaysia , if i am not mistaken , is by a sound system company in Jalan Pasar...and i have no confidence in this type of companies for my warranty lah ..

This post has been edited by gapnap: Nov 7 2008, 07:51 PM

hmmmm

batuapi ..in my opinion ..there are some things that you are not clear about ..and you clearly don't understand..
which is okay ..cos you not in KL i guess or less exposure ..


1.dealers and warranty ...
have you ever tried claiming warranty in Malaysia ? even if you buy brand new Behringer , or BOSS ...
As long as a product is not in a sellable condition
there is no such thing as 1 to 1 exchange policy ..even if you manage to exchange 1 to 1 because the owner is your friend or anything..
the cost of exchange is bear by the dealers , not the suppliers ..

you bring your spoiled behringer to the place where you bought in JB , they will ask you to take it to Jalan Pasar Branch , or their supplier ..
when you reach there , Jalan Pasar Branch will tell you there is no stock ..and keep pushing it away ..

they will only repair your pedal AT MOST , but you gotta pay for the parts ..

plus , at every warranty card ..it states..
the moment a buyer uses another adapter that isn't BOSS (Or Behringer)
the warranty is void ..

even the slightest modification , or some brands , when you open to see your circuit board
warranty is void ..

not easy to keep it you know .




2.Things are changing , there is warranty in buying used gear ..

maybe you're in JB , too caught up in the JB-Singapore Gear price war..
so you don't really understand how things in KL are like ..
there is warranty if you buy second hand products..
there are people who are trying to make a difference ..
i can name you many ..

Tone zone , Fret dance , Fatty n skinny , guitar pro shop , guitar kaki , awakening ...
all of them provide warranty for 2nd hand products ..they all hired their own technicians to maintain them ..

most of the shops have a ready physical shop , with ready technicians to treat the spoil products ..
some of it even better , offer you 100% cash back guarantee ..

How long will the warranty of brand new products last ?
1 year ? ...2 years at most .

How long will the warranty of used gear sellers last ?
they are your friend , and you know them personally(if you in KL) . definitely much longer than brand new



3.On dealers and discounts .
i got this when you mentioned , They get better margin selling boss stuff.

every dealer knows , there is no such thing as that ..bro..
we get discounts , based on the PRODUCT , not on the BRAND ...

Give example , Deadeye's Microcube ..
he is giving away 25% off for a roland microcube , try asking him how much is he selling other roland products
the answer is , he can't give you 25% on other roland products ..
the reason is simple ,
either the supplier wants to CLEAR all the microcube (over supply) , there is a target sales on microcube..
all this are adjusted and determine by the supplier ..

Same goes for Behringer ...
Normal Dealers are getting 20% off for Behringer ..
There was a period of time , few years back , Behringer wanted to clear ALL their sound system products ...
the whole thing was going for 30% off ..
but , their microphones , headphones , DI BOX that are selling so well , the most they will give is 15% off..

that is why , you go CK music sales ..
not everything is 20% off
VOX AD VT-XL can go up to 35% off ...
but , the old Vox AD series , only can go up to 15% off ..

same brand , different products ..

and the point is ..
there are things , for BOSS ..we make better margins than Behringer...yes ..
but there are also certain Behringer products , we make much HIGHER margins than BOSS ..hint..amps.
i am sure deadeye and guitarkaki have access to Behringer stuffs if you ask

This post has been edited by gapnap: Nov 8 2008, 02:01 PM