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 Scam or Not? Prestige Dairy Farm, they collect money for dairy farm invest

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post Dec 12 2008, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Nov 24 2008, 07:36 PM)
Oh speak of the devil, my friend was just telling me about this yesterday. Long story though, but at the end of the day the consultant was so desperate that he asked my friend to invest RM100 first, then can top up progressively.
My friend find it to be really similar to those MLM-ers trying to persuade people to join their network.
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I told the aforementioned friend about this thread. Consider this a bump, so that it's easier for him to find it. Perhaps he might tell the whole story. laugh.gif
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post Dec 12 2008, 09:56 AM

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Under M'sian Law, only credit company and bank are allowed to collect money for investment. Insurance companies falls somewhere in these defination.

That's why our local telco, like Maxis, Celcom cannot have the extra service like in Japan where they can use the mobile phone to pay for tickets la, LRT la because simply they cannot collect money in advance and do things that is outside the principal business activities.

Any other companies with claims to be able 'assist' you with investment, or sell you any other investment products with commodity linked instrument, are NOT LEGIT.

As compare the meagre meal voucher after the 2 hours rubbish talk, perhaps, one could go to Securities Commission at Bukit Kiara.

The reward for successful prosecution is RM100,000 or more, but I may be wrong. Don't need a fool to tell you that RM100,000 can buy more meals!
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QUOTE(gsuave @ Dec 12 2008, 09:56 AM)
Under M'sian Law, only credit company and bank are allowed to collect money for investment. Insurance companies falls somewhere in these defination.

That's why our local telco, like Maxis, Celcom cannot have the extra service like in Japan where they can use the mobile phone to pay for tickets la, LRT la because simply they cannot collect money in advance and do things that is outside the principal business activities.

Any other companies with claims to be able 'assist' you with investment, or sell you any other investment products with commodity linked instrument, are NOT LEGIT.

As compare the meagre meal voucher after the 2 hours rubbish talk, perhaps, one could go to Securities Commission at Bukit Kiara.

The reward for successful prosecution is RM100,000 or more, but I may be wrong. Don't need a fool to tell you that RM100,000 can buy more meals!
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CHECK THIS WEBSTITE:

http://www.mfa.org.my/?forum:prestige-dair....a-:16195-frm-4


Added on January 29, 2009, 12:10 am
QUOTE(mmusang @ Nov 2 2008, 10:57 PM)
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If you got call to claim free airplane ticket/voucher FOC at wisma PPV, jln Bangsar, you will probably facing this issue.
If you go to their place, they will ask you to attend a short briefing regarding investment in dairy
farm.
Why I though it is a scam? because it is full of flaw

I got their call during fasting months and I went to their place. I decided to go since I will have
free dinner  thumbup.gif
There is 1 person incharge to give me a briefing, he start by asking me what person in phone
told or promise me. you will feel weird since if it is a good investment or stuff, you will find it
will always stick to the facts or 1 direction.

kinder quite long explanation, im not got at explanation, but most of it is about
the benefits such as 1 liter milk got RMXX, then times 30 days and etc.

I will list the thing I think it is a flaw.

- he keep asking me what people on phone told /promise me.

- the picture is about dairy process only, not about the actual place, actual event, actual person.

-all the cow milk will be sell to Jabatan Tenusu, then  I thought there is no Jabatan Tenusu in Malaysia,
we got veterinar but not tenusu. there is no further explaination after jabatan tenusu, where the specified
place, which branch do it.

-there is takaful insurans if the cow got a problem,  I asked what kind of Takaful, he said Takaful Malaysia(with hesitation).
I don't think insurans company will cover it since it is a high risk, unless the payment is high, he did not even
mentions about insurans payment.

-he don't even know the exact place of dairy farm. there is no location state in presentation or pictures. all pictures
is about dairy process or benefits.

-there is no catch at all


Added on November 2, 2008, 11:06 pmI think it is same company selling top up machines at very high prices.
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CHECK THIS WEBSITE FOR THIS CORN COMPANY!!!

http://www.mfa.org.my/?forum:prestige-dair....a-:16195-frm-4

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old news already bro, anything new?
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yea I got an update here. PDF is no longer at Jln Bangsar.

They are now at:
No 17-3, Jalan Puteri 2/7, Bandar Puteri Puchong (above OLD BOY cafe ) , opposite Gaint.

I have just got their call and sms regarding to a free meal voucher
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how come they can still operate?
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QUOTE(chowsc @ Feb 3 2009, 06:09 PM)
yea I got an update here. PDF is no longer at Jln Bangsar.

They are now at:
No 17-3, Jalan Puteri 2/7, Bandar Puteri Puchong (above OLD BOY cafe ) , opposite Gaint.

I have just got their call and sms regarding to a free meal voucher
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they just invited me to this address leh
Wisma PPV, No. 103-2, Jln Bangsar, 592200 KL sweat.gif

QUOTE(ajay67 @ Feb 3 2009, 07:25 PM)
how come they can still operate?
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(mkazmi @ Nov 5 2008, 03:02 PM)
Dear ALL,

Prestige Dairy Farm is a legitimate business and far being a con job. Contact me directly at (03) 22825786 for further clarification.

Mohd Khairol Azmi Jaafar
General Manager
Prestige Dairy Farm (M) Sdn. Bhd.
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Regardless of how true your busines is, why people must decide whether to invest thousand of RM (i'm talking bout 5 figures!!!) on that day itself without even given the opportunity to do due diligence / checking /etc.

Real professionals do / venture into business only after site visits, checking with legitimate/independant lawyers, business evaluetion etc... NOT ONE DAY, in fact ppl are pressured to decide on the spot, IT IS definitely a scam!!!

U think think is traders buying into stock market?? even investment in shares is 100 times safer...

If the business opportunity is soo good, why must one day?? don't give crap like u dun wan to waste time, etc. those are excuse to scam ppl


Added on February 18, 2009, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(halofujima @ Nov 22 2008, 02:31 AM)
Hey guys , get your facts right.

I've been there and what they offer is a simple explanation on what is it all about which took 2 hours ++
but i got the voucher at the end of the deal even after i decline to join their investment.

The project is supported by Jabatan Tenusu Malaysia and RM livestock,

And what are you will be investing is on "milking cows"

If you MALAYSIAN even know about the country, (and I hope please do before being an idiot with wrong facts)
it is stated that the Malaysia will try to lower the import for milk as we are currently only having only 5% of local milk.
It is in Harian Metro last month i think.

Therefore this Dairy Farm is trying to import the cows themself to do the milking itself.
The Cost for the cow is 26k+ which comes with all the cow food and workers for taking care of the cow.( i think they will makan abit la for $$)

So the income is from milk, meat, and baby cow..
So... after buying (investing) on the cow. the milk will be sold to the Jabatan Tenusu Malaysia. which is where you get your profit..
Meat to RM livestock..
Baby cow to Dairy Farm , 

So during the presentation. i ask :
1.What happens if the cow dies? Got insurance (RM 500 / year) die will replace new cow @ same age. After 8 years, they will kill the cow and sell it's meat, one cow around 500kg for RM 20++ per kg..
2.where is this farm? Johor if you are interested , i can bring u there to choose your cow. @.@
3.How come the baby cow only worth RM250 when sold to the farm while I buy for 26k? (bull** and say import use alot money, baby use alot food product then he change topic, You know 1 cow can give birth to how many baby?(dunno) 10/ year.so you get extra 2500 per year.
4.How much milk they produce? 20litre per per day @ RM 3 per litre. so few hundred k $$. if they milk less than 10litre, they will kill the cow and replace new because sick. o.O

Then they explain la on the calculation and all... and I start to get bored...just want to get out of there, but they ask me to stay , voucher on the way( wait for 1 hour)

The reason I didnt invest is because they want the answer today. Then they start to ask (before telling that the cow is 26k) If the cow is at your budget range, will you take it today?( I say yes) Then they say 26k+ per cow , deposit 30% which is 8k+ for production fees.(I dont have that $$ now) Then how much can you pay? (I got RM 300 in my wallet now) Credit card? (I dont feel like using it, can you let me think about it for a day?) Then they argue with me , just now you say can give us answer today, if cannot , tell us earlier, dont waste both our times... Then they say they will accept the RM 300 as deposit which is NOT REFUNDABLE and will apply for loan from Aggro Bank i think "kami akan cuba dapatkan kelulusan , tak boleh pun kami akan bolehkan" @.@ ( this is when i feel like their eyes got the $$ sign) and decline.

By the way, to all those who listened and thinks got "flaw" is not because the company maybe a con artist,
please think CAREFULLY that the consultants are probably NEWBIES and are also WORKING like U and me.
So try to be more like ME and ask to talk to the MANAGERS instead. they will explain all doubts you have.
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For the benefit oof the doubt, i truly thinks the busines sounds viable, but it's a scam when they push you to invest that amount of money and decide on the spot. This is not buying handphone and even pc for couple of thousand. this is like buying a car!!!

Anyway, how do you use the voucher??? Free accomodation rite?? What hotel??
. i've tried emailing to the email address stated in the voucher, the email addrs is in valid...hmmmm....


Added on February 18, 2009, 10:49 pm
QUOTE(b00n @ Nov 24 2008, 06:51 PM)
What do you meant?
You just posted an article which explained something supportive in the scheme; yet you're puzzled?  rclxub.gif
Isn't that post of yours supporting your actions?
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They posted post sounded very unprofessional. ..this even makes it more dodgy...no wonder so many doubted the business. this kinda managemaent attitude and professionalism, how to ensure they are making your money worth invest??? yeah better sell back the 3 cows fast....

btw, 3 cows?? that at least more than 50K!!! sorry but i have doubts on your legitimate statement as well...

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im glad everybody aware of it.
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Feb 19 2009, 12:48 AM)
im glad everybody aware of it.
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too late for me already, everyone pls take note of this company

the general manager Alysious say can return my money but cannot say when? WTF!
will go to police and consumer affair in 1 month time since just sent them letter
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Feb 21 2009, 08:19 PM)
too late for me already, everyone pls take note of this company

the general manager Alysious say can return my money but cannot say when? WTF!
will go to police and consumer affair in 1 month time since just sent them letter
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Pls Update us.
Just to educate us so if there are similar "products" out there, we can do the same.
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Malaysians must be really desperate for money nowadays to actually believe in this.
You would actually think after all the MLM stories, water machine and all the schemes, people will actually be smarter and less gullible to part with their money.

I guess some things never change.

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QUOTE(Aloong @ Feb 22 2009, 04:41 PM)
Pls Update us.
Just to educate us so if there are similar "products" out there, we can do the same.
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QUOTE(Drian @ Feb 22 2009, 05:39 PM)
Malaysians must be really desperate for money nowadays to actually believe in this.
You would actually think after all the MLM stories, water machine and all the schemes, people will actually be smarter and less gullible to part with their money.

I guess some things never change.
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wat to do, human nature is greed
thats why this cheating will never stop
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hello...

berkenaan dengan PDF ni....entah lah, aku pun nampaknya terperangkap oleh "lelembu susu" yg seksi kat situ. dah sebelah kaki dah beb!

yang latest info aku dpt tangkap....projek ni baru nak bermula bulan Mac 2009 ni, tapi yang dorang dok tayang dalam video tu saper punyer?...yang ada orang dapat payment cheque tu which biznes?

satu lagi...takdak track record pun dlm bidang tenusu ni...
support daripada jabatan haiwan....korang try check laa....
sorang pun tak tahu menahu ttg projek PDF ni...bleh check jabatan haiwan HQ diputrajaya kalau mau...

alahai satu lagi, kalau skim ni betul lah...betul kejap jerrrr.....lepas tahun pertama, tutup kedai lah!

kenapa?...sebabnya target PDF ni nak bela 400 ekor lembu susu....300 dia punya (katanya lah)...100 ekor utk prlabur drp public..

kalau harga RM26k ++ seekor, kali ngan 100, dah dpt 2.60juta,
habis kalau 300 ekor tu pun public punya...dah jadi 10.4 juta...so, dah boleh blahhh la...makan x habis...
masa tu PDF disita sbb SCAM....tp tuanpunya company....millionaire beb!
tutup company jer...tp poket dorang tebal!!

heheh.....lu pikir la sendiri!


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that remain to be seen, i'll reserve my final judgement and wait n see
as for others, pls consider carefully n beware


Added on March 13, 2009, 7:26 pmwhy all the links given not working anymore, however u can search google for this company

http://www.mfa.org.my/?forum:hospitality-b...ase:13410-frm-4
http://www.putera.com/tanya/t70135.html


This post has been edited by kei18kun: Mar 13 2009, 07:26 PM
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Just got a call from them.. Asked me to come in tomorrow.
They claimed that they're giving me 2D1N voucher..
Katanya promote cuti cuti malaysia..

Then i told her, are you selling membership/ investment?
because if you are, I;m not interested..

Then dia kata tak..
kalau akak x percaya, tak payah bawak duit.
Voucher ni kita ada 30 shj.

Exactly same address..

How?? should I go?
Don't feel like it now..
But i wouldnt mind free stay tongue.gif
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QUOTE(isora @ Mar 27 2009, 05:28 PM)
Just got a call from them.. Asked me to come in tomorrow.
They claimed that they're giving me 2D1N voucher..
Katanya promote cuti cuti malaysia..

Then i told her, are you selling membership/ investment?
because if you are, I;m not interested..

Then dia kata tak..
kalau akak x percaya, tak payah bawak duit.
Voucher ni kita ada 30 shj.

Exactly same address..

How?? should I go?
Don't feel like it now..
But i wouldnt mind free stay tongue.gif
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If they can't get you to pay cash on the spot (after persuading) , they might "milk" your credit card. I guess few hours of brainwashing should be fine IF they promise and confirm give you the vouchers. If they do, I bet those vouchers wouldn't be easily used. Check with them which hotel/resort is applicable. Not to mention when they can be used (definitely not on public holidays and weekends).

good luck! smile.gif

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this is definitely scam la. 2 of my ex- friends is running this business in puchong. we parted ways also because bad blood due to this scamming business. i use to infact work for 2 months to sell those scam top up machine. those salesmen is actually con man, they job hop and the business module change, but the business nature will always be the same. that is to con people. i still remember when i was in bangsar more than a year ago, we eat at mamak and they pride themselves not as salesmen, but as conman....
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 27 2009, 06:41 PM)
this is definitely scam la. 2 of my ex- friends is running this business in puchong. we parted ways also  because bad blood due to this scamming business. i use to infact work for 2 months to sell those scam top up machine. those salesmen is actually con man, they job hop and the business module change, but the business nature will always be the same. that is to con people. i still remember when i was in bangsar more than a year ago, we eat at mamak and they pride themselves not as salesmen, but as conman....
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 27 2009, 07:48 PM)
thanks for the info, everyone need to know about this  sweat.gif
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you should see their top director, last time in mat kiosk in bangsar hes just 24 but already driving an s- class.... one of their top selling group manager got 2 cars, 1 is mini another one is mazda rx8.... sweat.gif


Added on March 27, 2009, 6:55 pmjust beware if you go to this briefing, never ever bought along any credit cards with you, just bring along maybe less than rm50 bucks minimum for your travel expense. they are trained with salesmen brainwash tactic, same like those lampe bergeer conman to make the sales within the same day, because by tomoro or thereafter, if they can't close the sales on the same day, they know its a gone case already.

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