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 Scam or Not? Prestige Dairy Farm, they collect money for dairy farm invest

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post Nov 24 2008, 06:44 PM

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Bukan scamlah. Aku pun dah letih nak explain benda nie hari-hari. Itulah pasal sampai ari nie orang melayu tak maju, tak pernah nak support bangsa sendiri. Itu pasal orang cina dapat pegang Kementerian Perumahan & Kerajaan Tempatan pun dah boleh jadi kaya sebab bermacam-macam lesen diaorang boleh keluarkan dari KPKT. Lesen developer lah, lesen along lah, tu sume citer buat duit. Kalau kau tengok paper cina selalu front page keluar citer apa? Citer saham jatuh, citer saham naik, citer duit, citer business. Sampai bila nak harapkan bantuan kerajaan nak buat projek? Kepala otak kena pakai bukan nak tunggu cable dah besar bapak gajah, politik sana-politik sini bukan nak perjuangkan nasib bangsa, tapi nak isi temolok sendiri. Itu beza orang cina dengan melayu. Orang cina pakai kepala otak, orang Melayu pakai kepala kabel politik. Ingat senang sekarang nak dapat loan? Siapa sendiri berani bet dengan aku kalau aku preparekan the best loan paper on the planet pun, boleh dapat loan? Nampak sangat kau tak tau apa yang kau cakap tu.

Nie dengar betul-betul. Kalau tak faham memang betullah orang putih cakap orang Melayu memang bangsa bodoh. Malu aku jadi Melayu.

Projek ni sebagai menyambut seruan kerajaan melalui Dasar Pertanian Negara Yang Ke-3 (1998-2010) YANG MENGGALAKKAN PENGLIBATAN SEKTOR SWASTA SECARA KOMERSIL DAN BESAR-BESARAN DALAM MEMAJUKAN INDUSTRI TENUSU NEGARA. Kalau nak tunggu loan government baru nak buat, tahun 3010 pun belum tentu start lagi.
Ni aku tulis bahasa penjajah sikit sebab aku dah tak larat nak translate dah. Kalau tak paham bukak kamus. Baru boleh maju!!

Prestige Dairy Farm (M) Sdn. Bhd (832757-A)., a wholly owned Bumiputera company, was formed in September 15, 2008 to undertake Malaysian government’s challenge who encourages private sectors to be involved commercially in dairy industry through Dasar Pertanian Negara Ke 3 (1998-2010). In 2007, self sufficiency rate for milk in Malaysia is a mere 4.69% (51.07 million liters). Malaysia is importing 95% (1.034 billion liters) of milk from foreign countries such as Australia, New Zealand, Holland and etc. Still the industry is worth RM 69.25 million locally. If we produce 100% of local demand, we could generate RM 1.477 billion for the country! On top of that, we will actually save RM 1.4 billion for the country, and that what we call modern patriotism. http://agrolink.moa.my/jph/dvs/statistics/...output0708e.pdf

As a result, on a very gracious evening on August 31, 2008 which is also the Independence Day of Malaysia, the first dairy farm project in Batu 14, Jalan Mersing, Kluang, Johore was officially launched by Dr. Siti Salmiyah Tahir, Head (Veterinary Officer), Dairy Section, Livestock Commodity Development Division, Department of Veterinary Services, Ministry of Agriculture & Agro-based Industry, Malaysia. http://agrolink.moa.my/jph/dvs/contact/milk/milk-hq-e.html

The project is with collaboration with Lazuli through its subsidiary, RML Livestock Corporation Sdn. Bhd, on a 100 acres land in Kluang, Johore. Lazuli and RML are reputable companies with proven track records and years of experience behind them in livestock industry both locally and internationally. RML is spearheaded by Dr. Rosli Mai Lam, B.V.Sc. (Sydney, Australia). Dr. Rosli has seen the ups and downs of the dairy industry of Malaysia over the last 25 years. With full technical support and guidance from RML and Department of Veterinary Services, we are bullish that the project will be a success.

faham tak? kalau tak faham, tanyalah kawan-kawan yang pandai cakap omputeh. website under construction prestigedairyfarm.com. Dalam minggu nie website baru boleh publish. Tengoklah gambar-gambar sepuas-puas ati. Kalau tak percaya jugak beli lembu sekor. Gambar kau pun aku boleh letak sebelah gambar lembu dalam "surat beranak" dan asal usul lembu tu. Lembu tu lembu kau. Kau nak bawak balik pun boleh. Tapi kalau kau bawak balik, kau perahlah susu tu sendiri, jual sendiri. Food Act 1955 - adalah salah untuk menjual terus hasil lembu kepada orang awam. Harga yang boleh dijamin pada tahun pertama adalah RM 2/liter. Milking parlor, cattle sheds, and yard is under construction. Bila lembu kau dah beranak nanti insyaallah tempat perah susu pun dah ada. Kau ingat nak buat sume tu free? Bukan business Ali Baba!! berjuta abis nak buat. Konsep Musyakarah (JV) 70:30. Hasil susu 70% owner lembu, 30% - PDF. Kau keluar 30 ribu, aku keluar 3 juta. Kau 70% aku 30%, tak cukup bagus ke tu? Lu pikirlah sendiri ....

Aku sedar bangsa aku sume pesimis. Sume takut risiko. Aku faham fasal opportunity risks, calculated risks and etc. Bukan aku tak tau. Tapi, yang aku sedihnya, segelintir daripada bangsa aku memang negative. Aku nak engkorang tau. Kalau kau nak report KDN nak masukkan aku dalam ISA pun suka ati kau lah. Tahun 2007, Malaysia produce 4.69% jerr dari demand susu lembu kat Malaysia nie, industri nie dah bernilai 69.25 juta. Kalau 100% - kau orang buat darab silang mcm cikgu Add Math ajar kat sekolah tu, industri nie bernilai RM 1.4 billion. Ini bukan aku yang cakap, statistik Jabatan Veterinar yang cakap. Ada dalam internet nie. Untuk khinzir pulak kadar saradiri adalah 120%. 20% boleh eksport lagik. 100% untuk local demand tu nilainya adalah RM 1.4 billion! Tak same ke dengan potensi lembu. RM 1.4 billion tu kalau dibahagikan sejuta sorang, akan wujudlah 1400 jutawan baru. Kalau sume org Melayu yang buat benda nie, takkan ada 1400 jutawan Melayu baru? DEB pun tak ada problem. Kalau nak perkasakan bangsa, perkasakan ekonomi dahulu. Aku sokong UMNO sebab UMNO saja melalui BN boleh menjamin PM adalah orang Melayu. Kalau orang cina jadi PM, dah lama dah Kementerian Kewangan bangsa lain pegang? Berapa juta lesen boleh keluar dari MoF?

Tak payah nak reply benda nie. Aku pun jarang nak bukak threads, forums nie. Kalau ada kemusykilan lanjut e-mail aku di azmi@prestigedairyfarm.com

taken from http://www.putera.com/tanya/t70135.html

i just bought 3, very worried now that i check online...anyway to get back the money?

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post Nov 24 2008, 07:00 PM

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still very doubtful, i prefer to get it back now since so many bad feedback regarding this
should have come back and check internet first
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(getsmart @ Nov 24 2008, 07:06 PM)
keikun, you got sign any contract document or not? what does the contract say about selling back your cows to them?

one should have an "exit strategy" for any investment or business ventures.
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first investment for me, they say sign here and there...in the end no contract for me yet until finalising everything, i paid 30% only using credit card and the rest not paid yet

anyway to stop the credit card payment, i tried to call the banks and they say they can't stop it even though its not claimed by the company yet...only the company can stop it
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post Nov 25 2008, 06:22 PM

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ok, thanks for the advise, i'll ask right away
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post Jan 30 2009, 07:35 PM

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old news already bro, anything new?
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post Feb 6 2009, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(chowsc @ Feb 3 2009, 06:09 PM)
yea I got an update here. PDF is no longer at Jln Bangsar.

They are now at:
No 17-3, Jalan Puteri 2/7, Bandar Puteri Puchong (above OLD BOY cafe ) , opposite Gaint.

I have just got their call and sms regarding to a free meal voucher
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they just invited me to this address leh
Wisma PPV, No. 103-2, Jln Bangsar, 592200 KL sweat.gif

QUOTE(ajay67 @ Feb 3 2009, 07:25 PM)
how come they can still operate?
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haiya, u know how our government work lah cry.gif
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post Feb 21 2009, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(mmusang @ Feb 19 2009, 12:48 AM)
im glad everybody aware of it.
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too late for me already, everyone pls take note of this company

the general manager Alysious say can return my money but cannot say when? WTF!
will go to police and consumer affair in 1 month time since just sent them letter
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post Feb 23 2009, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Aloong @ Feb 22 2009, 04:41 PM)
Pls Update us.
Just to educate us so if there are similar "products" out there, we can do the same.
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okok

QUOTE(Drian @ Feb 22 2009, 05:39 PM)
Malaysians must be really desperate for money nowadays to actually believe in this.
You would actually think after all the MLM stories, water machine and all the schemes, people will actually be smarter and less gullible to part with their money.

I guess some things never change.
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wat to do, human nature is greed
thats why this cheating will never stop
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post Mar 6 2009, 02:36 PM

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that remain to be seen, i'll reserve my final judgement and wait n see
as for others, pls consider carefully n beware


Added on March 13, 2009, 7:26 pmwhy all the links given not working anymore, however u can search google for this company

http://www.mfa.org.my/?forum:hospitality-b...ase:13410-frm-4
http://www.putera.com/tanya/t70135.html


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post Mar 27 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 27 2009, 06:41 PM)
this is definitely scam la. 2 of my ex- friends is running this business in puchong. we parted ways also  because bad blood due to this scamming business. i use to infact work for 2 months to sell those scam top up machine. those salesmen is actually con man, they job hop and the business module change, but the business nature will always be the same. that is to con people. i still remember when i was in bangsar more than a year ago, we eat at mamak and they pride themselves not as salesmen, but as conman....
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thanks for the info, everyone need to know about this sweat.gif
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post Apr 1 2009, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(tinjau_belukar @ Mar 31 2009, 05:18 PM)
too late for me.
i dah bayar deposit rm1000.

then tadi i called Jabatan veterina to confirm about this project.
that girl said, PDF ada submit paper & do the presentation.
tetapi ada sebahagian paper tu yang tak lengkap.

so i pun tak tau samada nak terus kan or tidak.
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better don't, i'm still looking for way to get back the money
will update here once i know how
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post Jul 9 2009, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(exia5733 @ Jun 2 2009, 09:23 PM)
Wow after reading all of the above I am 100% sold on this cattle farming thingy. I am convinced it is the only way to make money in this sucky economic climate. Screw banks, KLSE, UTs, etc. Cows are the way to go.

Curious how this thread is full of posts from newly registered user(s) defending "Prestige Dairy Farm".
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better don't invest bro, thats all i can advise

firdauswong-ru working there? if yes, how can i get back my RM10k back? Your company is a devill in disguise. After 7 months I still see nothing of the contract

Anyone in the same situation? Pls help, not sure if making a report to the police will do much help

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post Aug 11 2009, 05:48 PM

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really can't do anything? can anyone suggest lawsuit or something? how much can a lawyer cost? willing to pay if can get back partially of my 10k

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QUOTE(PJusa @ Aug 11 2009, 11:54 PM)
kei18kun,

i am not an expert but from what i read in the discussion of this admittedly slightly crazy sheme you might have an angle due to the fact that the price for the cow is very much overpriced. the question is - again i am not an expert - if the price can be considered extortion. this could if i am not mistaken render such a contract null and void. i am not 100% if this applies to malaysian law as well but it does in european countries. you could check with the small claims court. they should have someone around who might be able to give you some pointers. and as a consumer you can also file a lawsuit there and defend yourself. opposing party has to represent itself so no lawyer costs arise.

but: depending upon the contract entered. its a contract between consenting parties. short of extortion not much i can think of to null and void it - any lawyer here to help?
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thanks for the advise
i tried small claims court already, they said to report to police and hire a lawyer since its out of their jurisdiction since the amount is 10k. any advise anyone?
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Aug 12 2009, 04:47 PM)
tribunal court only able to claim up to 5k. more than that u need to go to civil court.
lawyer needed for civil court, the fee is around 3.8k.
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worth a try, but i do have to come out with 4k first rite?
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Aug 12 2009, 04:47 PM)
tribunal court only able to claim up to 5k. more than that u need to go to civil court.
lawyer needed for civil court, the fee is around 3.8k.
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just ignored firdauswong pls...since he might be kamal or adzman from the damn company which is ignoring me whenever i called them and never bothered to call me back

nobody answered my question yet? do i need to pay 4k for the lawyers fees? don't they have negotiation that they can get 4k if they can get my 10k back?


Added on August 17, 2009, 11:49 am
QUOTE(sigsan @ Aug 17 2009, 11:27 AM)
aku dah siasat. setakat yg aku faham... ladang alifah tu adalah kepunyaan en ramli mai lam ke sapa nama dia.... tokeh R.M livestock. tapi bila aku telepon, jawapan yg aku terima..." no yg anda dail telah ditamatkan..." bila aku tanya kat consultant pdf tu dia pun ngaku ladang tu bukan diaorg punya, dorang cuma projek susu lembu jer....

pastu baru konon2 nak bagi no tel yg aku boleh contact kat ladang tu, boleh caya ke...? aku setakat nak pi ladang tu senang je..... pasal dokek sgt ngan tompat haku... ni percaya sgt punya pasal.... takkanlah dorang nak menipu pulakkaaannnnn?????
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just don't risk it since they way they do things just darn irresponsible and misleading. bettter to try to get back the money than dump more money into it no matter what they says

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QUOTE(sigsan @ Aug 17 2009, 04:39 PM)
ye... aku n hubby memang dah tarek diri pun, tu sebab aku nak tahu camana nak dpt balik 2k tu. aritu, kitaorg panggil consultant dtg jumpa kitaorg. dia ingat kami nak bayar yg lagi 7k lebih tu. siap bawak resit. masa jumpa mlm tu, kami mintak semula agreement yg hubby dah sign sebelum ni. kununnya nak tengok balik. bila dah dpt, kami pegang surat agrement tu, n ckp nak pinjam tunjuk kat lawyer. tapi dorang tak kasik kata tak boleh, nanti dorang faxkan salinan je.

hubby pun sudah hangin terus koyak agrement tu dpn dorang. pastu, kami cerita pasal kat internet byk cerita pasal pdf ni tipu, tapi kawan tu pandai jawab. yelah, kita ni mana tahu law kan nak balas balik hujah dorang tu. tapi yg geram tu, bila kami kata nak tarek diri, dan tak moh bayar yg lagi 7k tu dia pulak boleh kata dia tertipu dgn kami sebab dtg jauh2 n siap bawak resit. kalau kami siang2 kata nak jumpa, bukan nak bayar, takdelah susah2 dorang ambil resit dari bahagian akaun. tak ke sakit ati dengar? dia pulak kata aku tipu dia kata nak bayar mlm tu. walhal, aku takde kata pun nak bayar, aku just kata nak jumpa je. n tlg bawa sekali agrement. pastu dia yg tanya nak suruh bawa resit sekali tak? aku katala... boleh juga, bawak je lah... ada aku kata nak bayar??   shakehead.gif


Added on August 17, 2009, 4:50 pmaku dah pergi website tribunal. tapi nape aku baca kita boleh tuntut bawah 25k?

KLIK KAT SINI....TRIBUNAL
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anyway u just need to claim 2k only, pls submit
i tried and they called me back say cannot, ask me to hire lawyer and go to court...

hmmm, interesting link u provided, i'll try again. thanks


Added on August 19, 2009, 4:30 pm
QUOTE(MakNok @ Aug 17 2009, 12:23 PM)
hey kei18kun,

my aunt is a lawyer but i am not sure of the charges.
maybe u should pay a visit to lawyer office to get an idea what the cost like.
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Aug 17 2009, 01:07 PM)
yep, u should visit several lawyer office, then u will get the picture.
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ok, will do that, thanks

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post Oct 31 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(zcatz @ Oct 30 2009, 03:01 PM)
no more update?confirm scam?

got the call yesterday, offer free voucher stay 2D/1N @ Tunes Hotel,Penang.
make my appointment today @ 5pm.
will go...for sure. hahaha...
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just don't bring any money or credit card will be safe
to be safer just don't go
ur money is safer to invest in other things

latest update on my case is I received my contract finally with sharing 1 cow with other 2 person. They inform will get income by December, will update u all later


Added on November 19, 2009, 10:07 amat last get the first return of RM88 becos of selling of calf and abit of milk...the amount is little bcos i share 1 cow with another 2 person. They also gave back RM786 bcos i paid RM10786 and the whole cow only cost RM30k

well, have to see now how the things go on...at least can see some action taken already after 1 year of waiting

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post Jan 23 2010, 11:39 PM

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they never did promise me alot of money, only moderate around 10-15%
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post Mar 30 2010, 01:09 PM

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