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Wolf516
post Nov 2 2008, 04:39 AM

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QUOTE(yingjee @ Nov 2 2008, 04:36 AM)
Mr dark, u look muscular.. will u go on a date with me?
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 2 2008, 04:36 AM)
Ok seriously Wolf516, a lot of people don't realize that the dramatic shit they see on TV is fake, while people get hurt in real life. I think love is actually quite simple, just that people feel the need to continuously test their partners.
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cool2.gif its because they felt insecure with their partners..... trust is gain in the hard way for most of the couple's nowadays

people just can't stop themselves from hurting others, whether they want it or not
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post Nov 2 2008, 04:42 AM

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QUOTE(Wolf516 @ Nov 2 2008, 04:39 AM)
cool2.gif  its because they felt insecure with their partners..... trust is gain in the hard way for most of the couple's nowadays

people just can't stop themselves from hurting others, whether they want it or not
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You mean people hurt their partner to test them to see if they really love them or not. There're many other ways to prove integrity and loyalty. Drama is not necessary imo. Trust me, shit will come into the path of the happiest couple. Life already has a way of screwing with you. Why need to compound the stress?
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post Nov 2 2008, 04:49 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 2 2008, 04:42 AM)
You mean people hurt their partner to test them to see if they really love them or not. There're many other ways to prove integrity and loyalty. Drama is not necessary imo. Trust me, shit will come into the path of the happiest couple. Life already has a way of screwing with you. Why need to compound the stress?
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dry.gif all of us has our life screwed by something , the only thing left to do with the stress is to wait for something good to happen......

or if you're hardworking, make it happen

sad.gif I wish there are someone for me in this world as well......
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post Nov 2 2008, 04:54 AM

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QUOTE(Wolf516 @ Nov 2 2008, 04:49 AM)
dry.gif all of us has our life screwed by something , the only thing left to do with the stress is to wait for something good to happen......

or if you're hardworking, make it happen

sad.gif  I wish there are someone for me in this world as well......
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Exactly. Hence the question why the need to create drama.

About someone for you, tell me, do you believe in fate? Stuff like someone being meant for you?
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post Nov 2 2008, 04:55 AM

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I'm actually greatly impressed with TS's set standards for what she wants in her partner. It addressed an issue which will only detriment the female population, that is sometimes men just don't respect women!

Some men (I'm not saying all) treat women only as sex objects and children-making machines, paying no regards to her feelings and values as a person. And the funny thing is, sometimes why men continue to behave this way is because there are women who allow men to walk all over them as sex objects.

If only women have greater self-respect for themselves, setting higher standards for their partners (means wanting a man who will appreciate her as a person, not just a sex and baby-making machine for the husband), probably this situation may improve.

Call me a feminist, if that irritates you, being a feminist is not a bad thing. I do expect criticisms to my comments coming from a world full of sexists. Maybe you are that 4 out of 10 men which TS quoted as "intimidated by women with career success", or a woman who needs to have more self-respect.
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post Nov 2 2008, 04:58 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 2 2008, 04:54 AM)
Exactly. Hence the question why the need to create drama.

About someone for you, tell me, do you believe in fate? Stuff like someone being meant for you?
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hmm.gif I don't really believe in magic encounters or some sort like that.....

someone who is only meant for you only happens in movies or drama's... in the real world its like a dogfight on the partners that you want doh.gif

nothing sweet has happen to me yet unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Wolf516 @ Nov 2 2008, 04:58 AM)
hmm.gif  I don't really believe in magic encounters or some sort like that.....

someone who is only meant for you only happens in movies or drama's... in the real world its like a dogfight on the partners that you want doh.gif

nothing sweet has happen to me yet  unsure.gif
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Well just remember fate gives you the opportunity, free will decides whether you'll make it happen or not. No fate but what we make. That was a good line from T2.
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QUOTE(Gisele_Marie @ Nov 2 2008, 04:55 AM)
I'm actually greatly impressed with TS's set standards for what she wants in her partner. It addressed an issue which will only detriment the female population, that is sometimes men just don't respect women!

Some men (I'm not saying all) treat women only as sex objects and children-making machines, paying no regards to her feelings and values as a person. And the funny thing is, sometimes why men continue to behave this way is because there are women who allow men to walk all over them as sex objects.

If only women have greater self-respect for themselves, setting higher standards for their partners (means wanting a man who will appreciate her as a person, not just a sex and baby-making machine for the husband), probably this situation may improve.

Call me a feminist, if that irritates you, being a feminist is not a bad thing. I do expect criticisms to my comments coming from a world full of sexists. Maybe you are that 4 out of 10 men which TS quoted as "intimidated by women with career success", or a woman who needs to have more self-respect.
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sometimes, women use men as a sex object.. and also ATM machine.. so i guess its even, no? women also love torturing men for self satisfaction.. (not all yea.. usually applies for conceited beautiful women) so instead of complaining about what men should be, y not try to change our own gender first? sex is not just enjoyable for the men.. im sure the female enjoys it too. dont see sex as a disadvantage for women. its merely an act of love between two lovers. if the female doesnt like it, then dont have sex! its that simple

P.S. im not being sexist as im also a female

This post has been edited by yingjee: Nov 2 2008, 05:04 AM
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QUOTE(Gisele_Marie @ Nov 2 2008, 04:55 AM)
I'm actually greatly impressed with TS's set standards for what she wants in her partner. It addressed an issue which will only detriment the female population, that is sometimes men just don't respect women!

Some men (I'm not saying all) treat women only as sex objects and children-making machines, paying no regards to her feelings and values as a person. And the funny thing is, sometimes why men continue to behave this way is because there are women who allow men to walk all over them as sex objects.

If only women have greater self-respect for themselves, setting higher standards for their partners (means wanting a man who will appreciate her as a person, not just a sex and baby-making machine for the husband), probably this situation may improve.

Call me a feminist, if that irritates you, being a feminist is not a bad thing. I do expect criticisms to my comments coming from a world full of sexists. Maybe you are that 4 out of 10 men which TS quoted as "intimidated by women with career success", or a woman who needs to have more self-respect.
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men like these get all the girls they want,i wonder why hmm.gif
they will even come back for more after they break up

guess darklight79 is right they like to make they own drama sweat.gif

no drama no life wink.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 2 2008, 02:14 AM)
This is because all these requirements you post take a back seat to your emotions. Guys that fit your "requirements" lack in the "feeling" department, and vice versa. Its not a problem with girls only, guys face the same problem looking for good girls.
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agreed with u..when u have found out that u really love him, you will think tat he is a good guy for u jor.
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QUOTE(yingjee @ Nov 2 2008, 05:03 AM)
sometimes, women use men as a sex object.. and also ATM machine.. so i guess its even, no? women also love torturing men for self satisfaction.. (not all yea.. usually applies for conceited beautiful women) so instead of complaining about what men should be, y not try to change our own gender first? sex is not just enjoyable for the men.. im sure the female enjoys it too. dont see sex as a disadvantage for women. its merely an act of love between two lovers. if the female doesnt like it, then dont have sex! its that simple

P.S. im not being sexist as im also a female
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Agree with the ATM machine part (not saying all women use men as ATM machines). This is weird (I'ma virgin), some girls, say sex hurts but some enjoy, I'm confused, anyone here can clarify?
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QUOTE(Gisele_Marie @ Nov 2 2008, 04:55 AM)
I'm actually greatly impressed with TS's set standards for what she wants in her partner. It addressed an issue which will only detriment the female population, that is sometimes men just don't respect women!

Some men (I'm not saying all) treat women only as sex objects and children-making machines, paying no regards to her feelings and values as a person. And the funny thing is, sometimes why men continue to behave this way is because there are women who allow men to walk all over them as sex objects.

If only women have greater self-respect for themselves, setting higher standards for their partners (means wanting a man who will appreciate her as a person, not just a sex and baby-making machine for the husband), probably this situation may improve.

Call me a feminist, if that irritates you, being a feminist is not a bad thing. I do expect criticisms to my comments coming from a world full of sexists. Maybe you are that 4 out of 10 men which TS quoted as "intimidated by women with career success", or a woman who needs to have more self-respect.
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Agreed!

So to the girls out there
Even if the ratio for your dream guy would be 1 out of 10, you have all the time for yourself to look for one

A good example of girls this days
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/626300/+320

This post has been edited by whirlwind: Nov 2 2008, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 2 2008, 01:51 AM)
As a modern girl who chases after big ambitions and aspirations, we find it increasingly harder to look for suitable soul mates to spend the rest of our lives with. A typical modern KL girl usually finds dating hard, when out of 10 guys:
- 4 would be intimidated of a woman's career success.
- 3 would be playboys only out looking for sex and one night stands.
- 2 would totally fail at taking care of the woman's needs.

And only 1 out of 10 guys may match well with the woman and have each other's needs fulfilled. He's not intimidated by her success and independence, and ready to commit and spend the rest of his life with this woman.

I wonder how do you girls cope with this situation? And what do guys think of this? And I would say, for those girls who have found that loving '1 out of 10' guy, you gotta feel really lucky.
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Nonsense. Girls don't look for "good guys." They look for the bad ones.
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post Nov 2 2008, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 2 2008, 01:51 AM)
As a modern girl who chases after big ambitions and aspirations, we find it increasingly harder to look for suitable soul mates to spend the rest of our lives with. A typical modern KL girl usually finds dating hard, when out of 10 guys:
- 4 would be intimidated of a woman's career success.
- 3 would be playboys only out looking for sex and one night stands.
- 2 would totally fail at taking care of the woman's needs.

And only 1 out of 10 guys may match well with the woman and have each other's needs fulfilled. He's not intimidated by her success and independence, and ready to commit and spend the rest of his life with this woman.

I wonder how do you girls cope with this situation? And what do guys think of this? And I would say, for those girls who have found that loving '1 out of 10' guy, you gotta feel really lucky.
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Simple. You aren't good enough for good (from your statement) guys and you aren't attractive enough to be with a good guy. I always love to joke around good guys are always hiding, but the truth is they aren't hiding at all. They are very active as well in the society together with those bad ones. They as well, are looking for their best options out there, same as you. And if you can't attract them, then don't blame the whole male society for lacking good men. Because at the end of the day, the fingers are pointing back to you.

Now, i don't think so we are going to define nor differentiate between a good guy and a bad guy. It is very very subjective and grey area does exist between them but as long you are clear with what you want in a man, then focus on it. Generalize them into category that fits your choices just like you wrote in your first post or the above and go out and attract them. I don't know how you going to hunt them, but keep it to yourself because it is less important for us to know. But maybe before you hunt for them, might as well take a look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself are you a good girl too? Can you handle such guys?

Moreover, there is no saying being with a good guy provide a long lasting relationship. That's hypothetical BS. I've seen people with bad partners but still they go strong. Remember, it depends on whether it works or it doesn't work, which implies to how both you and your partner work it together.

This post has been edited by peinsama: Nov 2 2008, 11:56 AM
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dont you think ur demand is too high??
i think u more on materialistic rather than true love
good luck for your waiting but i remind u ur age doesn't wait for u. biggrin.gif

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Good guy is 70%......... but just not the taste of the gal.....

That y all go for the 30% of notty to bad guy

Muahahhahahaha

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QUOTE(dazzywazzy @ Nov 2 2008, 02:31 AM)
why cant i find a girl that will pay the bills instead?
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i scroll..i read your post..and i doh.gif apelah
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i knew this girl since I was in A level, at first we always argue over each other and hated each others guts(on a friendly level though).

few yrs pass we met again went out clubbin etc...

than she admitted that she had feelings for me, i open doors, drive her home even though her house is like in kepong and my house is in puchong... omfg so F-ing far, treat her to nice food, movie.. and she said I was like a gentleman to her.

But than again, she said I did the same thing to all the girls I know and treat them equally! than on top of that at first she thought I was GAY, cause I was too good of a guy to do all those Kind of things i mentioned above.

We never clicked anyway, gave her a hug, kiss on the cheek and parted ways. (apprenetly that time when she admitted her feelins she already got bf)

Guess good guys in this world are either dead, gay or misunderstood.

This post has been edited by aurora97: Nov 2 2008, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(MeruChan @ Nov 2 2008, 12:34 PM)
i scroll..i read your post..and i doh.gif apelah
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lol.. cuz TS post is doh.gif so i oso post somethign that is doh.gif
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