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 Worst and best car audio brands?, For all noobs! Sifus pls comment!

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zennn
post Dec 24 2010, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(nawie @ Nov 19 2010, 02:34 PM)
so...ameron is entry level?
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yes...entry level or for ppl with low budget

but if it satisfies you, then u can say value for money hehe...

Added on December 24, 2010, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(allycat @ Dec 23 2010, 04:27 PM)
I'll try it out when I get the new Rush. But now I'm exploring waht are the upgrade options available.

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for 3k can start with head unit and front speakers first

later on get a 4ch amp and a sub

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post Dec 28 2010, 12:10 PM

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dear sifus, wanna ask rm3k can buy what good stuffs?
If i'm more interested on SQ side.. not too say pure SQ because the budget rm3k is too low for sq... so.... any recommendation?
thanks in advance smile.gif
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post Dec 28 2010, 12:45 PM

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what items u want to include in the 3k? what items u already have in the system?
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post Dec 28 2010, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 28 2010, 12:45 PM)
what items u want to include in the 3k? what items u already have in the system?
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am thinking to get a vios. all stock..
3k can get what good stuff? if i more interested on sq... or middle lol.
thanks in advance. smile.gif
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post Dec 28 2010, 01:50 PM

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Guys, just want to trying ICE but not sure la...just get HU Pioneer DEH-5250SD and component Maestro CS6508 for entry at yesterday from howie...so far at the moment quality quite for compare stock speaker and last time clone Focal...damn it...

For both i'm spend around RM1750 just for device..not included installation and bla2...

Added on December 28, 2010, 1:53 pmNot forget for zenn on his advices....i'm asking him my budget RM2k for full set included amp and woofer but his said....better get HU and speaker for RM2k...if bundle with amp and woofer quality so-so...

Yeah it's true...howie also said like that but depend on budget buyer..but for me later will buy amp for drive front speaker...and get bass underseat ..i think its's enough for me at the moment...

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post Dec 28 2010, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(beweif6 @ Dec 28 2010, 01:17 PM)
am thinking to get a vios. all stock..
3k can get what good stuff? if i more interested on sq... or middle lol.
thanks in advance.  smile.gif
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i spent almost 4k for entry level SQ complete set with 2 front doors sound dampening and wooden custom speaker mounting quality is definitely satisfying. if there are any complaints it would be the lack of bass on the mids (still, lol) but seeing as how i got a cheapo Boston S60, it cant be helped. and i think that is the end of the road for me until i get my new car (targeting honda civic or CR-Z atm XD)

if you're interested, you may just check out my thread on my ICE journey: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1157391

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oops removing highlighting

well, just to clarify anyways, for the most part the S60 bass (after further amplification) is satisfying. just on certain songs where the beats stays on the mids too much and wouldnt go lower for the subs to take over, it leaves much to be desired.

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post Dec 28 2010, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(beweif6 @ Dec 28 2010, 01:17 PM)
am thinking to get a vios. all stock..
3k can get what good stuff? if i more interested on sq... or middle lol.
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start with cd player and front speakers, will be around 2k++.

after that save up for 4ch amp, sub and wiring...probly another 2k++
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post Dec 28 2010, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 28 2010, 03:14 PM)
start with cd player and front speakers, will be around 2k++.

after that save up for 4ch amp, sub and wiring...probly another 2k++
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Follow what abg zenn said...u will see the difference... brows.gif

Btw, just asking about woofer it's important? How about cheap2 woofer like RM300-400 enough for entry level?

See Helix e300 woofer at howie workshop...damn it's expensive..around RM1k.... laugh.gif

Summore need good amp for it... tongue.gif

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post Dec 28 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 28 2010, 04:21 PM)
Follow what abg zenn said...u will see the difference... brows.gif

Btw, just asking about woofer it's important? How about cheap2 woofer like RM300-400 enough for entry level?

See Helix e300 woofer at howie workshop...damn it's expensive..around RM1k.... laugh.gif

Summore need good amp for it... tongue.gif
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expensive woofers you'll prolly need monoblocks instead of amp already to bring out its full potential.

and it really depends on what you need. even if you're not a basshead wanting to blast songs or whatever, you may still need decent to expensive/good subwoofers to bring out the low frequency notes/tones. perhaps a low drum note, or cello's, bass strings etc. cheap/weak subs wont bring it out fully no doubt. same can probably be said for underseat subs, unless you're getting some really damn good ones. "cheaper"/more feasible way is still a conventional 10-12" + sub in the trunk (or in rare/extreme cases, ive seen people putting it in the dashboard LOL!)
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post Dec 28 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 24 2010, 04:18 PM)



for 3k can start with head unit and front speakers first

later on get a 4ch amp and a sub
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Tks, I'll do it once I get my new Rush.
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post Dec 28 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 28 2010, 04:33 PM)
expensive woofers you'll prolly need monoblocks instead of amp already to bring out its full potential.

and it really depends on what you need. even if you're not a basshead wanting to blast songs or whatever, you may still need decent to expensive/good subwoofers to bring out the low frequency notes/tones. perhaps a low drum note, or cello's, bass strings etc. cheap/weak subs wont bring it out fully no doubt. same can probably be said for underseat subs, unless you're getting some really damn good ones. "cheaper"/more feasible way is still a conventional 10-12" + sub in the trunk (or in rare/extreme cases, ive seen people putting it in the dashboard LOL!)
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Perhaps get underseat subwoofer since my car don't have space... sweat.gif

I'm not bass head because i'm got 2 children and it's will my children can't sleep in the car......
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post Dec 28 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 28 2010, 03:14 PM)
start with cd player and front speakers, will be around 2k++.

after that save up for 4ch amp, sub and wiring...probly another 2k++
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What kind of HU and what kind of component speakers?
i mean what brand or anything...
btw... is it ok to listen if i just change the headunit and component speakers?
i more interested on treble sound... thanks in advance (:
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post Dec 29 2010, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(beweif6 @ Dec 28 2010, 09:44 PM)
What kind of HU and what kind of component speakers?
i mean what brand or anything...
btw... is it ok to listen if i just change the headunit and component speakers?
i more interested on treble sound... thanks in advance (:
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Go to properly shop and asking them which suitable with your budget...not forget tell them what ur requirement...jazz, rnb, rock.. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 29 2010, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 28 2010, 04:21 PM)
Follow what abg zenn said...u will see the difference... brows.gif

Btw, just asking about woofer it's important? How about cheap2 woofer like RM300-400 enough for entry level?

See Helix e300 woofer at howie workshop...damn it's expensive..around RM1k.... laugh.gif

Summore need good amp for it... tongue.gif
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depends on the 4ch amp u goin to get

just find single voice coil 4ohm subwoofer around 300W

4ch amp 50W x 4 or 75W x 4, look for good brand

sub for beginners will be around 500-800

Added on December 29, 2010, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(beweif6 @ Dec 28 2010, 09:44 PM)
What kind of HU and what kind of component speakers?
i mean what brand or anything...
btw... is it ok to listen if i just change the headunit and component speakers?
i more interested on treble sound... thanks in advance (:
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yes HU and component will be ok for a start, maybe get a 2ch amp for the component next time.

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post Dec 29 2010, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 29 2010, 12:33 PM)
depends on the 4ch amp u goin to get

just find single voice coil 4ohm subwoofer around 300W

4ch amp 50W x 4 or 75W x 4, look for good brand

sub for beginners will be around 500-800

Added on December 29, 2010, 12:34 pm

yes HU and component will be ok for a start, maybe get a 2ch amp for the component next time.
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hmm considering how much my boston gt40 costed, was it considered overkill of an amp powering the subs/S60 component? or theres no such thing as "wasting" in ICE? lol
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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 29 2010, 12:33 PM)
depends on the 4ch amp u goin to get

just find single voice coil 4ohm subwoofer around 300W

4ch amp 50W x 4 or 75W x 4, look for good brand

sub for beginners will be around 500-800

Added on December 29, 2010, 12:34 pm

yes HU and component will be ok for a start, maybe get a 2ch amp for the component next time.
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Then this 4 channel amp good for entry range below RM1k? Need carry 2 speaker and 1 subwoofer...

macrom m2a.4000 rm800
orion hp4600 rm1000
soundstream lil' wonder lw4.480 rm9xx
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post Dec 29 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 29 2010, 12:35 PM)
hmm considering how much my boston gt40 costed, was it considered overkill of an amp powering the subs/S60 component? or theres no such thing as "wasting" in ICE? lol
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overkill in SQ? not really la, maybe mismatch.. mcintosh amp alpine speakers hehehe

Added on December 29, 2010, 3:19 pm
QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 29 2010, 01:00 PM)
Then this 4 channel amp good for entry range below RM1k? Need carry 2 speaker and 1 subwoofer...

macrom m2a.4000                                      rm800
orion hp4600                                              rm1000
soundstream lil' wonder lw4.480                    rm9xx
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erm... what else? shop around some more la...

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post Dec 29 2010, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 29 2010, 03:17 PM)
overkill in SQ? not really la, maybe mismatch.. mcintosh amp alpine speakers hehehe

Added on December 29, 2010, 3:19 pm

erm... what else? shop around some more la...
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well, its driving a super entry boston S60. the subs i dont doubt its "need" for the amp, but the comp set, does feel kinda wasted heh.

what about mcintosh amp and alpine speakers? you mean matching them up is like a huge mismatch? (since AFAIK alpine are that well known for their speakers/comp sets unless its their top of the line series?)
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QUOTE(zennn @ Dec 29 2010, 03:17 PM)
overkill in SQ? not really la, maybe mismatch.. mcintosh amp alpine speakers hehehe

Added on December 29, 2010, 3:19 pm

erm... what else? shop around some more la...
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Amp not take a big part eh for SQ? tongue.gif

Wait see techincal spec.. tongue.gif

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Macrom M2A.400

Heavy aluminium heatsinks, sophisticated circuitries, high power and dynamic, ultra-flexible crossover, high end connections, design and style, reliability... combining all these needs in a new generation of entry-level amplifiers, that was the challenge.

Specifications
90x4 watts into 2 ohms load at 0,1% THD
60x4 watts into 4 ohms load at 0,1% THD
TO3P transistor on amplifier stage
Variable Low-High-Band pass x-over at18/12dB/oct on rear section
Variable High pass x-over at 12dB/oct on front section
In/Out mode selector (2/4 ch In)(ST/Dual mono Out)
Adjustable x-over from 30Hz to 600Hz




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Orion HP4600

# 600W Max, HP Series 4-Channel Class AB Car Amplifier
# RMS Power Rating:

    * 4 ohms: 50 watts x 4 chan.
    * 2 ohms: 75 watts x 4 chan.
    * Bridged, 4 ohms: 150 watts x 2 chan.

# Max power output: 150 watts x 4 chan.
# Massive loosely-regulated MOSFET power supply
# Remote bass level input (remote level control sold separately)
# Tuned Bass EQ (0-12 dB bass boost)
# LED power, protect, and ESP indicators
# All new pure MOSFET output stage design
# Speaker-level inputs
# Preamp RCA outputs
# Thermal, DC, reverse polarity, and short circuit protection
# Intelli-Bass Equalization Circuit and Remote Gain Option
# RCA level inputs
# Variable high-pass filter (50-500 Hz)
# Variable low-pass filter (50-500 Hz)
# CEA-2006 compliant amplifier
# Frequency response: 20-20000 Hz
# Dimensions: 12.4"L x 10.25"W x 2.4"H
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Dear Sifus,
I've been hearing that DLS has a decent system. What do you sifus think about it?

Can somebody recommend a good and trustworthy shop in PJ? You can PM me if you don't wnat to promote their names publicly.

Tks
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