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 Worst and best car audio brands?, For all noobs! Sifus pls comment!

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m_rpeace
post Jun 3 2009, 01:05 AM

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i juz wan to know about nightkids brand and hertz <<<<is it ok or cap ayam,,,,,noob here all sifu plz help me
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post Jun 3 2009, 10:20 AM

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i dont know about nightkids...but hertz is quality product...but beware fake hertz brand...8 inches hertz subwoofer price near rm 1000....esk 165 component speaker rm 1200...but fake hertz will be sell below than rm1000


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QUOTE(ckmoy007 @ Jun 2 2009, 06:02 PM)
support 2nd hand ori products... smile.gif most of my stuffs also 2nd hand but serve me damn well. new stuffs are onli for glamour and need time to run in, most of the real gud stuffs are bullet proof, can last for a long time. actually i wouldn't recommend sound stream for SQ especially the new soundstreams. zenn got some nice SQ stuffs for sale. i oso got a set of boston acoustics for sale. at least cheaper and better than the ESK. mine is comparable to HSK series.
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thanks a lot bro ckmoy007 and bro zenn for ur opinion....well i should look it back and make some revision back before spend it...try to look for 2nd ori product...i saw some ice shop sell some HSK product costly near rm 2000...boston acoustic is really good product too

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post Jun 3 2009, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(m_rpeace @ Jun 2 2009, 09:05 PM)
i juz wan to know  about nightkids brand and hertz <<<<is it ok or cap ayam,,,,,noob here all sifu plz help me
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just make sure it's Hertz, not Herts, Herz or something like dat. Italian company, a reputable car audio company worldwide, famous for their Mille speakers . Nightkids is ah beng's blasting brand, nothing to shout about, in other words, cap ayam. but most beginners will ignore wat we say and still buy the cap ayams cos a lot of their frens oso using that brand.tongue.gif
m_rpeace
post Jun 8 2009, 03:45 AM

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thanks for all comment....im verry appriciate that
abeye
post Jun 12 2009, 12:23 AM

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Hi everyone,

Interesting article. A good read for info. As for me, old school only lor because cannot afford new ones.
I guess at the end of the day, within your budget, get maximum value via maximising your system capability.

Cheers biggrin.gif

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post Jun 14 2009, 05:43 PM

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So, how about Av quart quality?
ckmoy007
post Jun 14 2009, 10:20 PM

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all i can say is it's the imitation of a German brand 'MB Quart'. so, u take a guess on how gud it can be. tongue.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 01:03 AM

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hi all, might ask some stupid question but dont fire me ya.. haha..

is the Phoenix Gold QX-2180 and Precision Power 2030M consider as entry level of ice..?

currently my setup:
HU - pionner 8650
component - Rockford 2614 component set
sub - peerless XLS 10"
stage 1 DIY sound proof(paiseh...)

i owned a rockford 2614 component set(2yrs+), and i replaced the tweets with hertz(forgotten the model, but its a normal performance tweets la~)
planned to drive the component set with the ppi, and the peerless xls 10" power by the PG.

any comment or advice..? i know it might be not enough juice to drive the sub, but what to do..? i only manage to get the PG for the sub.. sob~

thanks in advance..

regards,
Tony.

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ckmoy007
post Jun 16 2009, 01:25 AM

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http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Phoenix_Gold_QX-2180/
this PG is 2x40w and 1x180W @4ohm. XLS 10 is 250W rms if i recall correctly. shud not be a problem if u dun blast excessively.

http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/PPI_2030M/
2x 30W for ur comp set. ok la, better than nothing. smile.gif

both amps are very old skool, i suppose they are entry lvl. but at least much better than cap ayam. smart choice for starting ICE. mind to tell me how much u bought the XLS?
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post Jun 16 2009, 01:26 AM

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hmm.. last time i bought it for RM350.. at gr8tunes..

the subbie need at least 300rms.. told by sifu zenn or mnkh.. forgotten.. tongue.gif

next month will aim for a better power amp for the midbass.. i think around 75-90rms..? should be fine with my component rite..?
den the 2030 will pair with the tweets.. anything i should careful b4 running active..? kinda noob in active setup..

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post Jun 16 2009, 02:01 AM

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not bad, nice sub for a very nice price. now almost imposible to get at that kinda price d. amp for mid around dat la, 80w shud be sufficiient. how u plan to play active, using hu to cross?
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post Jun 16 2009, 11:34 AM

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if i'm not mistaken, my HU does support active setup. but i dono how to set it.. there is a button to select whether to run normal or active.. i worry after dat i'll spoiled my system. anyone can help..?

what's ur suggestion, ckmoy..?
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post Jun 16 2009, 12:22 PM

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dats ur HU, u gotta figure out if it's capable of running active. smile.gif u just need to have an HU dat can cross at least up to 3kHz before thinking of going active with ur HU. another option is get an external electronic crossover to do the job.
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post Jun 17 2009, 12:42 AM

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i wouldnt recommend those 2 amps, very very very old.....

what HU r u using, if alpine u have to take the unit out, switch is below, change from 2 way to 3 way xover
toonny
post Jun 17 2009, 12:51 AM

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pioneer 8650.. there's a switch there. i know dat.. juz gone thru the manual. haha..
b4 getting the proper amp and component, i'll keep running my ICE in passive 1st.. summore i nid to study more on active setup..

both amps were old skool.. but in my opinion, i juz start playing with ICE, it will be better than spending the same amount on new amps but not really good quality amp..

correct me if i'm wrong.. newbies learning.. ^^
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post Jun 17 2009, 01:06 AM

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u were already on the right path, branded 2nd hand amps, just have to buy something thats not so antique la.....
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post Jun 17 2009, 09:01 AM

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ahahaha~ both of the amps is in antique level..? 0.o
juz hope thier performance dont let me down..

sifu zenn, do you audit both amps b4..? or anyone..? like to hear some comments..
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Guys, I'm wondering how good Mohawk brand sounds to you guys?
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post Jun 17 2009, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 17 2009, 09:01 AM)
ahahaha~ both of the amps is in antique level..? 0.o
juz hope thier performance dont let me down..

sifu zenn, do you audit both amps b4..? or anyone..? like to hear some comments..
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My 2sen view on ol'skool amp. If you can get in good working condition at great price, grab it. Most of them are sonically good enough for newbie. The good and not good thing is that since they are mainly 'pure' amp i.e without features such as crossover, bass boost la etc, you need to have the function via HU or external crossover. But similar to 'pure' deck/HU, you get the money spent on quality. The amps never clipped and stay clean through to high volume.

Personally i have 4 equipments older than 10 years in my setup. 2 of them are close to 20 yrs old. Most of the others are >7 yrs anyway. My friends with newer equipments also agree that for the money spent, its well worth.

Just be careful that bcoz they are old, do not push beyond their limit esp buying SQ ol'skool to be used for SPL. Give them some headroom. All in correct gain setting.

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QUOTE(abeye @ Jun 17 2009, 09:46 AM)
My 2sen view on ol'skool amp. If you can get in good working condition at great price, grab it. Most of them are sonically good enough for newbie. The good and not good thing is that since they are mainly 'pure' amp i.e without features such as crossover, bass boost la etc, you need to have the function via HU or external crossover. But similar to 'pure' deck/HU, you get the money spent on quality. The amps never clipped and stay clean through to high volume.

Personally i have 4 equipments older than 10 years in my setup. 2 of them are close to 20 yrs old. Most of the others are >7 yrs anyway. My friends with newer equipments also agree that for the money spent, its well worth.

Just be careful that bcoz they are old, do not push beyond their limit esp buying SQ ol'skool to be used for SPL. Give them some headroom. All in correct gain setting.
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well said... but something to add... whether old or new... gain must be in correct setting...

and yes... i do also own amps that are more than 10 years old... and they are running superbly fine till today... and i find them having better SQ than any current amps at the same price as i bought them new last time,,,

cheers,,,,

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