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 Worst and best car audio brands?, For all noobs! Sifus pls comment!

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robinhood
post Apr 23 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(deserte4gle @ Apr 23 2009, 08:35 AM)
for ur amp for sub better take 2 channel or class A mono.....coz 2 channel bridged is better than class D mono....
this is what ive experienced with NEW soundstream amp b4.... smile.gif
but dunno other brands..... must ask sifu zenn to explain... heheh
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You sure using a class A amp to power a subwoofer is better than a class D???? blink.gif You should do a research on the classification of amps. By the way, nobody will want to use a Class A amp to power subwoofers (even if their vehicle electrical system can support that). Another interesting point to highlight is that a true Class A for a vehicle is so expensive and limited in production. Audiophiles will use the Class A amp to power their comp. speakers.

Current Soundstream producing Class A amps? I highly doubt it. hmm.gif Even their legendary Human Reign series are not Class A. As for an audiophile, most will prefer 2 channel amps (mostly they are Class AB) to power their subs owing to better control/damping properties (but on the expense of efficiency). As for those looking for a louder system, a Class D amp (assuming similar power rating) will be much more efficient. Hence, the popularity of recommending a Class D for subwoofers.

Another thing to bear in mind that not all Class D amps are inferior in SQ (perhaps due to higher THD and lower damping properties). Lastly, can you really hear the difference in sub bass???? Boominess yes, but not neccesarily the overall ambience in what you are looking for from the subwoofer.

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post Apr 23 2009, 12:35 PM

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dont get so excited la, he's a relative newbie, as u can see he only experienced one amp. i think he means class AB and not class A, and his view was also qualified by saying from his own limited experience.

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post Apr 23 2009, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Apr 23 2009, 12:35 PM)
dont get so excited la, he's a relative newbie, as u can see he only experienced one amp.  i think he means class AB and not class A, and his view was also qualified by saying from his own limited experience.
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oops sorry.... what i mean is class AB....... my mistake.... that time was freak with NEW soundstream amp coz of their beauty outlook.... but now ugly already to me coz frustrated with the sound... hahaha
thanks sifu zenn for correcting me up... smile.gif

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post Apr 23 2009, 05:50 PM

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haha, dun say that, there are lotsa hardcore soundstream fans around here. smile.gif i told a lot of ppl, the new amps are overrated but they just love the tarantula logo. lol.

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deserte4gle
post Apr 23 2009, 06:46 PM

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hahahaa.... one thing about soundstream their amps are nice... i mean in terms of outlook.... the new lil wonder damn nice one..... shit!~ tgk pon cair.... hahah!~ tongue.gif
robinhood
post Apr 24 2009, 08:49 AM

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Alpine PDX amplifiers have nice design too.
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post Apr 24 2009, 10:13 AM

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Looks bellies the sound huh.

Hello guys, Class D amps are not inferior. They are just made differently to be more efficient for a particular band of frequencies. In fact, they cost more to manufacture than a typical class AB amplifier. For that purpose (in running a subwoofer), they give higher output and can be as efficient as 80-90% of usable power and runs cooler too. Furthermore, Class D amps allow you to run at lower impedance to double or even triple the power (2ohms or 1 ohm) which a typical non-high-current class AB amp can never do.

If you ask me: A branded 2ch class AB amp (non-high current) vs a branded class D monoblock. Which would i choose for my subwoofer duties? I would probably pick the class D monoblock. However, if I can find a good class AB monoblock, would probably go for that!

Some amps like TRU Hammer, Focal Solid 1, Zapco iforce i600 and Reference 500.1 are Class AB monoblocks. Yummy!
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post Apr 24 2009, 10:19 AM

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yeah.. pdx also nice.... but helix also nice!~~~~ heheheheehhehehhe:P
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post Apr 24 2009, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(deserte4gle @ Apr 23 2009, 01:25 PM)
oops sorry.... what i mean is class AB....... my mistake.... that time was freak with NEW soundstream amp coz of their beauty outlook.... but now ugly already to me coz frustrated with the sound... hahaha
thanks sifu zenn for correcting me up... smile.gif
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no worry u can dump your ugly amp to me, i need something bling bling and solid as coffee table tongue.gif


Added on April 24, 2009, 2:01 pm
QUOTE(deserte4gle @ Apr 23 2009, 06:46 PM)
hahahaa.... one thing about soundstream their amps are nice... i mean in terms of outlook.... the new lil wonder damn nice one..... shit!~ tgk pon cair.... hahah!~ tongue.gif
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like tat must get their Tarantula with the big big spider, couple with your spiderman suit then u can become Malaysia Spiderman hero laugh.gif


Added on April 24, 2009, 2:04 pm
QUOTE(mnkh27 @ Apr 24 2009, 10:13 AM)
Looks bellies the sound huh.

Hello guys, Class D amps are not inferior. They are just made differently to be more efficient for a particular band of frequencies. In fact, they cost more to manufacture than a typical class AB amplifier. For that purpose (in running a subwoofer), they give higher output and can be as efficient as 80-90% of usable power and runs cooler too. Furthermore, Class D amps allow you to run at lower impedance to double or even triple the power (2ohms or 1 ohm) which a typical non-high-current class AB amp can never do.

If you ask me: A branded 2ch class AB amp (non-high current) vs a branded class D monoblock. Which would i choose for my subwoofer duties? I would probably pick the class D monoblock. However, if I can find a good class AB monoblock, would probably go for that!

Some amps like TRU Hammer, Focal Solid 1, Zapco iforce i600 and Reference 500.1 are Class AB monoblocks. Yummy!
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ya Tru Hammer is a beauty just in case Taikor deserte4gle wish to opt for hammer but no budget he can go for RM10 2 piece from those hardware shop, can choose color too laugh.gif

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post Apr 24 2009, 06:09 PM

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pdx pdx!


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post Apr 25 2009, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(mnkh27 @ Apr 24 2009, 10:13 AM)
Looks bellies the sound huh.

Hello guys, Class D amps are not inferior. They are just made differently to be more efficient for a particular band of frequencies. In fact, they cost more to manufacture than a typical class AB amplifier. For that purpose (in running a subwoofer), they give higher output and can be as efficient as 80-90% of usable power and runs cooler too. Furthermore, Class D amps allow you to run at lower impedance to double or even triple the power (2ohms or 1 ohm) which a typical non-high-current class AB amp can never do.

If you ask me: A branded 2ch class AB amp (non-high current) vs a branded class D monoblock. Which would i choose for my subwoofer duties? I would probably pick the class D monoblock. However, if I can find a good class AB monoblock, would probably go for that!

Some amps like TRU Hammer, Focal Solid 1, Zapco iforce i600 and Reference 500.1 are Class AB monoblocks. Yummy!
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There the sifu has spoken. wink.gif
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post Apr 26 2009, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Apr 22 2009, 11:32 PM)
my recommendation, sell both your front and rear coaxials, buy a component speaker set for fronts.  sell off your amp and buy a 4 channel amp, to run both fronts and sub. lastly sell off both your player and pre amp, just get one decent head unit.
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TQ Mr Zennn, i try to do it your recommended...
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post Apr 28 2009, 11:03 PM

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how bout Infinity Kappa 3 way Comp. set compare Memphis MClass Comp. set
n Pioneer DEH-P6050UB head unit oso

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post May 2 2009, 01:19 AM

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hey guys...just want to ask..right now i have subwoofer+amp..but i want to remove the subwoofer...so left the amp, but if the normal speakers connected to the amp, will it spoil the speakers??...do i need to remove the amp if i remove the subwoofer?? hmm.gif
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post May 2 2009, 05:41 PM

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if its a mono amp then maybe not suitable for speakers. if its a 2channel amp then is ok...
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post May 3 2009, 11:10 PM

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no any old school nice stuff to introduce??~~~
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post May 4 2009, 01:51 PM

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click my signature la, got some...
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post May 8 2009, 11:48 AM

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can i noe wat is SPL? T.T
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post May 8 2009, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(YoNgZ @ May 8 2009, 11:48 AM)
can i noe wat is SPL? T.T
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SPL = Sound Pressure Level

SPL cars are the ones going boom boom boom around town

SPLP competitions are for measuring how loud the car can play. they dont use music, just some fart sounds.

too bad in this country when u say u are into car audio, they automatically think spl...bcoz so many show cars are spl based...
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post May 11 2009, 07:32 PM

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Glad to see my amp & speaker include inside SQ

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