Hey Peeps,

Baronic (Probationary Moderator) is assisting us in making this place a better and updated forum. Do suggest what changes you would like to see.

Also, we can use the report button as required, even in reporting to close a thread, delete flaming post or a new thread that ask repetitive Q's. Baronic will look into the reports within 24hrs. I do hope he look into it faster..hahaha.

So post your comment and suggestions and hope to see a better hangout place for all iPhone Users.

Cheers

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 30 2008, 03:07 PM

i would like to see the winterboard thread being clear, i mean those nonsense flaming ect post inside being wipe out immediately

Thanks master gengstapo. Winterboard post from 412 to 444. I'll ask Baronic if he can do that.

Thanks

Hai david,
How about cydia and installer repo? Last time: 12,909 view it...Hehe..

Quite useful this thread...

Thanks in advance..

@setoyo

That thread lama tak update..hahaha. Kinda dated. You want it opened?

Also, i don't want to be the only person updating the thread wih Cydia an i4 updates. Manyak tiring man. If you can help or any forumers can chip in to help update once in awhile, i open the thread.

What say you?

Please del quick-question thread.

Woot..
I really wanna help.. but
Im not capable to open this thread atm...
Hope old timer will open up this thread...

Peace..

sure you can do it setoyo.

Ok..i reopen the close thread. Bump it up.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/763530

Duplicated thread, hopefully the moderator will not lock your topic. PPL are discussing Fring VOIP call here already..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/809458

Thank for your infor anyway..

@ Moderator and the rest,


i have a quick question to clear some reservation off my mind.

in the case alt-f4, should i be helping him/her first on this thread or direct him to the correct thread and click report (to summon someone to close the thread)?

i was about to post something there, but halted my intentions.

kindly give me your feedbacks

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Added on October 30, 2008, 6:01 pmfor the changes to be subtle, i reckon that we need to come out with a consensus here.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Oct 30 2008, 06:01 PM

omg nokia2003, i've reply him already

it is okay la mate.


i just wanna seek some opinion, before proceeding.


no worries!

I dunno how many times i want to tell u am not discussing Fring VOIP. I am showing u way to tweak both Fring, pennytel and also appstore be able to function in 3G/GPRS and not only wi-fi. Dude, do u have problem of reading the whole post before jumping into conclusion?

No need to lock or close that topic ... just ask the mods to merge those two. So there will be a fring and pennytel thread since both are VOIP apps.

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Added on October 30, 2008, 6:41 pmAnd move the tips on using 3G/GPRS for AppStore to the Tips n Trick section. That should solve the problem.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Oct 30 2008, 06:41 PM

from now on any flame posts, report that post directly, and then i'll delete them

i've pinned a few threads and see how they go, but note that they arent permanent. i have no doubt that they are useful, but if we pin every single thread, we'll soon see more pinned threads than normal threads.

i would like to suggest that u guys choose ONE MAIN thread to pin first. and then post in the first post of that thread LINKS to the other threads. of course these are for the useful but not CRITICAL threads.

i would like suggest pawnage tools, cydia, and tips and tricks threads unpinned, and then the REDIRECT LINKS made in the first post of maybe Iphone Club instead. What do u all think? Too many pinned threads also not nice. my suggestion

For me Pwnage tool and WinPwn thread can be unpinned since the software will be revised everytime a new firmware comes out. Having that pinned will not do any good. Like you said ... linking that site to the main thread like "please read before posting" thread or "iPhone for DUMMIES" thread should be suffice.

Same goes to "Winterboard" and "Cydia/Installer" thread. Just link it to a main site.

Thats just my 2 cents

Sounds good. I'm all for it.

all crucial posts be pinned up. right now, the sticky threads do not offer much help to newbies

Well now its time to brush up the pinned thread for more info. Keep the suggestion and comment coming so they will know what to update.

@wahkiz

What would you recommend to further assist newbies? Could you provide a listing of what is needed?

More b00bies !!!
More chicks !!!

Dont want sausage fest already ..

U guys. Those who labeled themselves "iPhone Support Team", should really be more supportive.

Start to accept the fact that NOT everybody knows whats LYN or "Forum". Some people just don't know that they need to search, read FAQ and etc when they first get in. Even if they do, just guide them to where they belong. Now that's newbie friendly.

The way I see it now, everytime a noob post something, one self proclaim "LYN iPhone Support Team Member" will come in, make some sarcastic remarks, and the rest will be either joining the bash or cheering along. Now that unprofessional. This sub forum (iPhone) looks more like a kopitiam group thread than an open forum.

Someone starts a thread and ask a repeated question = bash. Someone open a thread to tell everyone that they have a new iPhone = "Oh wow congratulations nice to hear that hehe great welcome to the group!"

Furthermore, the FAQ is not really complete. I know I should make suggestion instead of just criticizing it, but my last two paragraph is why I don't make suggestion (except for this one). Yeah, I'll be expecting some flaming for this.

This post has been edited by Fighteden: Oct 30 2008, 08:43 PM

@davidgary

I think the iphone for dummies thread is excellent, almost all that people would normally ask is listed. However, it's still interesting that none actually check there before posting.

Maybe you would like to sticky those repetitive topics such as iphone unlocking, jailbreaking, appsupport, buying itunes gift cards (hmm).

Then perhaps newbies that comes in would see theres already an unlocking thread sticked on the top and won't post any such questions

just a suggestion.

you not the 1st but you not the last.
im second frozzbyte suggestion.

i have some suggestion on winterboard thread. winterboard is break into 2 separate threads.

1. first one will be pin on first page. it is winterboard tips n tricks on how to mod icon, background, clock font, etc... more like tutorial. easy for newbie to reference.

2. second will be "winterboard of the month". where people can show of their creativity here together attached with their custom wallpaper, icon, etc...n we will select a winner of the month n pin at first page of next month winterboard. this will attract more n more people to learn how to mod their screen.

peace!

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Added on October 30, 2008, 9:47 pmi think later if anyone who is flaming or making fun of newbie will be warn n post will be deleted. so, there will be no more bash.

This post has been edited by kai5183: Oct 30 2008, 09:47 PM

baronic so fast moving.
only 3 post then closed

i have a suggestion. since there are lots of ppl posting a new topic which is involve new information, update infomation and iphone problem, why dont we make a rule & regulation on header topic. example; question using <wta>, new information use <info>, discuss use <discuss> and problem use <problem>

the other suggestion is adding specific detail for user problem. example;

1st/2nd gen iphone:
firmware:
problem detail:
problem occur time:
screenshot:
comment (other info):

by adding this suggestion may give head up for our iphone sifu here. most likely will help user accurate info that their seek and search.

pros
* easy for support team help with current user problem
* accurate topic finding using topic header
* save time eventually
* reduce flammer (burn baby)

con
* less freedom

just a free though. feel free to change and discard any idea that is unnecessary.

cheers

i couldnt agree more about this but.. then again.... how can we tell them to do this since most of the TS tht have problems just came up with a very general informations (usually 1 paragraph)? how can we educate (sound unplesent huh?) TS to at least follow some of the things refered above?



This post has been edited by g3n0c|d3: Oct 31 2008, 08:39 AM

I'm with potion on the tagging of a new thread. This will make things easier to search.

One thing that I'm not really keen on newbies .. especially those touch n go type ... is that they don't read the pinned thread first, post new thread (and maybe repetitive), log off or didn't come back to check or close the thread. Those kind of newbies will not follow the tagging or detail format and cluttering the forum. Typical scenario ... open new thread, ask question, hope people will spoonfed and get out. Not even a thank you or participation in their own thread or courtesy to close the thread. Now that we have a mod lingering around, closing such thread wont be a problem anymore.

Hi grunge. We were never the ''iPhone Support Team'' or "LYN iPhone Support Team Member" or "sifus" or "self proclaim mods" and we never claim to be. I would think that everyone here would not like to be associated with those titles. We are just forumers like you, hanging out and chillin' in this forum.

Due to the reason why noobs get flame back then is because they are not willing to read the pinned threads as most required Q's/queries are answered with proper solutions and with links etc. We have no doubts that noobs don't read pinned threads..hahaha. I'm not sure why in the first place they don't read. That's kinda disturbing.

Also, we did not have a mod around for sometime to close threads, delete flamed threads etc as how other forum does it. Thus, the whole forum becoming more like a junk/pasar malam with noobs opening new threads rather than them opening in threads made for their queires.

Grunge, we would warmly welcome you to help noobs whenever you can as they open new threads or related threads to ask Q's.

Regarding the FAQ as not complete, what would you suggest to add on? Do share.

Thanks

I was told by mod that to many stickies/pinned threads are not required as one or two threads with the required infos/links will do. So, we can't do much as noobs will somehow choose not to read pinned threads. So do choose the report button and report them.

Good suggestion mate. Do ask master winterboard gengstapo if that's cool with him. I opened Winterboard due to his support and we agree to go ahead..hahhaha.

Very good suggestion indeed. If all of us can start doing so, this might work.

Regarding the details of use problem, i took off "problem occur time" as we don't really need this option.

1st/2nd gen iphone:
firmware:
problem detail:
screenshot:
comment (other info):

Maybe we can put this up on the pinned threads if nokia2003 or friends don't mind but however, we need everyone to agree on this to go ahead.



This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 31 2008, 11:47 AM

hmmm... can we ask the admin department to create a template of:

1st/2nd gen iphone:
firmware:
problem detail:
screenshot:
comment (other info):


especially when one requires to open a new thread in this subforum (something like those found in the garage sale)?


well we old timers, who wish to post something else, can just simply delete the template and start posting (after all it is only a matter of deleting a couple of words)


that way, the not so well versed newbies seeking help, can opt for the template right away and begin describing the actual problem precisely. that way we get to save a lot of time (and also LYN server resources), by not asking "1st gen or 2nd gen?", "tried this and that?", "officially unlocked or via turbosim", "part numbers" et cetera and the list goes on and on.


oh having said that, looking at the growing number of iphone 3G users, may i suggest that we add the product number in the list above as well? that way, we can pin point out the origin of the iphone without any confusion. no more things like, i'm sure it is officially unlocked but shows the characteristics of a turbosim unlocked unit.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Oct 31 2008, 11:58 AM

those tagging ideas is cool though.

but "1st/2nd gen iphone:" can change to "3G / Non-3G:?
sometime people didn't know 1st gen and 2nd gen.

just a suggestion.

ha ha. you know what, if you do try to read the userguide in the bookmark saved inside your safari, apple refers to the 1st gen as original iPhone.

wah really?I never read user-manual

ayai, no choice la. i cannot be a hypocrite or "pot calling the kettle black " right? because typically if an obvious question pops up by newbie, i will usually ask them to search or read the userguide first. ha ha

wahaha nokia2003, I don't think newbie will read the user-manual,

pinned thread also they dowan read

I saw a few old timers here love to start a flame war, or flame people

such as this :


Don't post something that does not contribute at all, and this is not the 1st time
You guys know who you are for posting this type of stuff

either help or stop post, or u can learn nokia way, shoot but in the end still help


The good thing is since there is a mod taking care here, stupid newbie question are all closed, and forced them to check and search
however, Mods still need to delete some flaming bait post


PS: to fighteden, its nothing personal, but thats my suggestion

errr... i have extreme difficulties deciding whether your underlined statement is actually a praise or vice versa

I thought we clear up already about flaming, bashing and etc.

why still got people raising this?

i am not refering to post in others topic, but post in this thread at last nite


PS: btw nokia, take it as a compliment?
am not saying newbies does not deserve flame, but its always better to at least try to help if you want to shoot

This post has been edited by Fighteden: Oct 31 2008, 07:02 PM

well samlee860407, fighteden come out with his glorious pic again

nah...his pictures are not that glorious

let just stop this won't we?

an arguing will drag to many many pages.

Sure, why dont we all just get along eh?

Weeee ... 500 posts !!

This post has been edited by Fighteden: Oct 31 2008, 08:00 PM

No i dont know what you mean, care to enlighten me?

thread closed. anything u need, please PM me directly