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Asus Eee PC Thread V3
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havocx
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Mar 2 2009, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Feb 27 2009, 10:53 AM) can mine upgraded to ssd also? i mean my netbook comes with normal hardisk As long as your hard disk is a 1.8" connected via Zif socket you should be able to do it. Zif socket connection is not a Sata connection, there's a difference there. Whats your laptop model and type of HDD ? If you already have a SSD HDD, youll also need to find out if your SSD is soldered on to the machine like some models of the EEEPC's are.
QUOTE(emino @ Mar 2 2009, 07:27 AM) Where did you find space to put Windows 7  Windows 7 is not that big emino, though i cant get it on my 701 with 4gb HDD. Anything higher than 5.2gb will fit Windows 7 on it. You can still have it on a smaller HDD though, just install it to run on USB or like me off my 32gb SDHC. Added on March 2, 2009, 9:39 amQUOTE(tkfoo @ Mar 1 2009, 12:04 AM) My sister is using 1000H. I saw some ppl using a leather case for the eee pc beofre, its look like a diary after close up. Does anyone saw before and know whr to buy ?  Malaysia's not so hot on stuff like that, the ones I know and am using are bought from either Singapore or online. Im using both Leather ones and cloth ones, they seem to have much more padding that the default cover we get from Asus.This post has been edited by havocx: Mar 2 2009, 09:39 AM
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havocx
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Mar 3 2009, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(tkfoo @ Mar 2 2009, 11:06 AM) "" QUOTE(tkfoo @ Mar 1 2009, 12:04 AM) My sister is using 1000H. I saw some ppl using a leather case for the eee pc beofre, its look like a diary after close up. Does anyone saw before and know whr to buy ? Malaysia's not so hot on stuff like that, the ones I know and am using are bought from either Singapore or online. Im using both Leather ones and cloth ones, they seem to have much more padding that the default cover we get from Asus."" many thanx to u Havocx.  would appreciate if you could provide me the online web address ? in order not to hv wrong understanding, actually is very nice and convenience to carry around for the 'diary type later cover/case. saw the guy just using wz just flip open the top part of screen and can start using oredi. doesnt need to pull out fm any bag/case at all.  Here buddy, knock yourself out, just click on me 

For my wife she's using Fabrix Cases Awesome stuff padded and looks very nice with extra pockets and all. In fact i like it even better than the leather cases. Only available in Singapore though. Another fact, im actually going to Singapore again just to get more of these this Thursday. I think they are just top notch 
QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 2 2009, 11:19 AM) Its Eeepc 1002ha with normal hd version, no ssd, i wonder how to check if im using zif socket The hard disk drive that comes with Eee PC 1002HA is a Seagate Momentus 5400.5 (ST9160310AS, 8 MB cache, 5,400 rpm) SATA-300 with 160 GB (real capacity of 149 GB). Since this laptop uses a standard 2.5” SATA drive you can replace it with any 2.5” SATA drive in order to improve capacity or speed (you can even replace the hard drive that comes with the product with an SSD, Solid State Drive) provided of course you find an adapter for the Zif socket. 1.8" HDD's comes with that type of connection 
QUOTE(ajay67 @ Mar 2 2009, 11:23 AM) i don't think it uses zif socket Youre right, but it still workable 
QUOTE(wareyenet @ Mar 2 2009, 11:48 AM) i installed slimmed version of windows se7en  using vlite.. then disable system restore, move prog files to D drive, delete here and there, i still left with 800mb free space in my C drive  i dont know if it is just me but i do feel a lot more faster using windows 7 compared to XP. huuu.. maybe put too much program before when using xp.. Ooh thats an idea. Haha didnt think of that earlier although my Vista was slipstreamed. Hmm my 701 should now get a Operating system upgrade. Or should my 900 go there hehe. Its not just you mate, it is MUCH faster. Even on very much slower systems the Windows 7 kicks ass 
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havocx
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Mar 4 2009, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 3 2009, 08:08 PM) QUOTE(darkages @ Mar 3 2009, 10:10 PM) Fabrix cases looks stunning! Now i really wanna have them I concur, the paddings actually superbly excellent. My cousin, got one from me, dropped her EEEPC from 1.2M, yes its not that high for some but its still a drop, no cracks on the 901. It helped it was SSD too 
QUOTE(ajay67 @ Mar 4 2009, 08:41 AM) trust me.. once u put them side by side u'll definitely go for the new one, eventhough 1000 got 6-cell & cheaper  On this I for one beg to differ. Once the price difference is not that far Battery Life plays a MAJOR IMPORTANT role, well at least for me who's always on the move, if youre always one to be able to find a Power Source then its not a big problem, but in airports, trains and buses and sometimes even while travelling not having power is an issue no matter how slim or pretty the other laptop looks like.
Even if you always find power and always run with battery and power plugged in at the same time youre just going to ruin the battery life so no, if the battery life is longer, its cheaper, even though comparing them side by side one looks much slimmer and prettier, I'd personally still go for the cheaper longer battery.
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havocx
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Mar 5 2009, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 4 2009, 08:42 PM) i wonder is it because i always use my 1002ha in power saving mode or its because the battery were different than 1000h model...i heard they said different battery type mine can lasted at least 4++ hours for documentation usage, like running Microsoft office and online msn (but im using low brightness, turn off camera and blue tooth) lasted about 3+ hours when playing movie files with medium brightness with wifi on for online and msn (i often use my netbook to watch movie, and my dramas) Actually battery type, usage and brightness would play a major role. But then again the contention here is that perhaps for only RM100-200 difference, youd already by default have a very good battery.
Batteries as we know cost a bit, of course one could get a higher end nicer model but then to later need a longer battery may be an issue. Not firing anyone here nor saying im all the correct source 
I like your option for the 3+ hours though on that usage, personally for me though, id rather go with at least 5 hours on that one. Ie for having all these running ( playing movie files with medium brightness with wifi on for online and msn ) 
QUOTE(penyu3 @ Mar 4 2009, 09:15 PM) bro havocx, thanks yr comment. Hey no worries, you actually got a few ideas from different folks here, just choose whats right for you. Whats right for me may not be right for you
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havocx
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Mar 21 2009, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(blstz @ Mar 20 2009, 02:28 PM) Someone mentioned in this forum that the battery that budges out is the newer 5600mah one. But if the battery capacity has dropped from 6600mah, asus shouldnt be saying 7 hours batter time rite? Although i understand under normal operations the netbook wouldn't last that long. 6600mah = 7 hours 5600mah = 7 hours also? ajaya67, u using 1000H? That someone was me, and if you looked youll find there was also pictures accompanying the claim. Of course here's also much more info to help you along.
Im sure this will help a lot of you folks with your battery predicament. Firstly what you need to do is to understand what type of lithium cell batteires are used in laptops. Lithium based battery cells are good but there are a variety of lithium based battery cells. For example the lithium based cell identified as 18650 is one of the most common battery cell on the market for laptops. 18650 is manufactured by many manufacturers including many private branded companies to public companies like LG, Sony, Sanyo, Samsung, Panasonic. Other lithium batteries which are made for phones, PSP's and other devices will vary.
18650 is a 3.6V cylindrical Li-Ion cell. 18650 has no memory effect and longer storage life than NiMH battery cells. 18650 is light weight and has a high energy density. It is in effect perfect for building batteries for laptop as as such is being used in a whole lot of laptops primarily the Asus.
The additional technical specifications for the 18650 battery cell include:
* Nominal Voltage Average 3.7 V – the concept of nominal voltage is that voltage range exists depending on the number of cells in the battery. * Nominal Capacity - 2200 mAh (above 2200 the stability of lithium based cells is called into question) * • Max. Charging Current - 2.4 Amps Max. * • Max. Discharging Current - 4.6 Amps max. * • Dimensions (DxH) 18.3 mm (Max 18.4) x 64.9 mm (Max 65.1) * • Weight 46.5 g (1.64 oz) * Internal Impedance Internal Impedance: less or equal to 90 ohms * Cycle Performance is 80% of initial capacity at 300 cycles
Now as stated above the you wanted to know how come an average 6600mah and 5600mah last 7 hours at the same time ? This might actually be because they are both the same 6 cell batteries. The mah needs to be coupled with the volts that comes out of the battery. Its not only a matter of mah's.
Oh Emino, ive added in my Arsenal another 2 units of 901GO and one unit of S101 for the wife. 9", 20GB SSD with 3.5G built in. The S101 is per normal specs. Do add them to the list if you can 
Right now, for both those new units, one of it I have a battery rating of 7.4V with 6600mah while the other was 8.4V with 5600mah. When i first got the 5600mah I was not pleased thinking there i was being scammed. A little bit of research revealed otherwise.
As I mentioned above the nominal voltage average is 3.7V. Some manufacturers may use 3.6V and some may use 3.7V. In the case of a laptop battery with 7.4V the nominal voltage rating used is 3.6V. Thus if we divide 7.4V by 3.6V we get roughly 2. Thus 2 cells in a series. We also know that the batteries capacity is 6600 mAh. We know the nominal capacity is 2200 mAh. Therefore if we divide 6600 mAh by 2200 mAh then we get 3 in parallel.
Therefore we have 2 cells in series X 3 cells in parallel equals 6 cells in total. And voila 6 cells battery!
For the second one, its easy 8.4V divided by 3.6 and you get roughly 2.33 . Then go 5600mah divided by 2200mah and you get 2.54. Have them together 2.33 x 2.54 and you get a rough 5.9 Cell Battery. Usually translated to the nearest number which would also make it 6 cells
I for one got the second battery changed though just for the sake of it.
Hopefully this info helps you folks This post has been edited by havocx: Mar 21 2009, 10:05 AM
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havocx
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Mar 22 2009, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(penyu3 @ Mar 22 2009, 10:36 AM) using my new eeepc 1000h for almost a week. never regret to have it. design = 8/10 battery = 9/10 (after seeing 1000he, 9.5hrs) drop 1 point.... screen = 9/10 (very clear) touchpad = 9/10 multitouch is good for browsing while u on the go.. but abit sensitive... bundle software = 7/10 (star writer too slow to be loaded), looking for alternative. material = 7/10 (too many finger print on surface), anyway i don't mind.. Haha let me help you bring up your points a lil
design = 8/10 : a lil bit on the fat side eh, but it does help in the sense it feels sturdier than most of the others in the market. battery = 9/10 (after seeing 1000he, 9.5hrs) drop 1 point.... : a visit to the aftermarket to get you a 12000 mah battery will help you in a long way to win the war. screen = 9/10 (very clear) : Also non glossy reflective screen which helps in seeing the screen in daylight. touchpad = 9/10 multitouch is good for browsing while u on the go.. but abit sensitive... : Wireless mouse! Nano connectors or go wild and get Bluetooth mouse! bundle software = 7/10 (star writer too slow to be loaded), looking for alternative. : Youre running Linux ? Try Emino's suggestion on eeeBuntu or go WinXP and run Office 2K3. Amazing load times. material = 7/10 (too many finger print on surface), anyway i don't mind.. : Cant be helped with them dark colours. Which is why I took White for mine, no more Fingerprint marks.
QUOTE(emino @ Mar 22 2009, 10:39 AM) Updated.  havocx, please adopt me and gimme some eees. lol Haha emino thanks! Adoption slots full for now, traded in some of the old ones for the new 901GO's. Still thinking of the Acer Aspire but after comparisons again and again Im still sticking to EEEPC's for now. Ill perhaps do a side by side comparison with the latest Aspire with 3.5G vs EEEPC with 3.5G Cant afford to get 1000HE just yet, though using some of my Batts im sure I can go just as long on the hours as that model. Now, if only it came in 3.5G then maybe ill jump on the bandwagon.
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Mar 22 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(justakid @ Mar 22 2009, 03:26 PM) hmm is it possible to change my eeepc 4g into 160gb harddisk ?? and does anyone face any problem using eeepc 4g with window 7 ( 2gb ram ) ???? Justakid, Not possible the 4G's SSD's are soldered onto the machine. No problems with Windows 7 ONLY if you slipstream the Installation to be smaller. Win 7 by default requires a free space of 5GB to be installed. Better solution ? Just run Win XP with Vista / 7 Transformation pack. Note, no drivers for Wifi is around yet for the Win 7 on EEEPC 4G that I know of.
QUOTE(penyu3 @ Mar 22 2009, 03:36 PM) bro havocx, thanks for helping to explain in detail. I'm using win xp with kingsoft 2009. amazing load time. smaller file size if compare with MS Office 2003. Only 50MB++ only... Haha sure thing buddy. Actually with a lil tweaking Office 2K3 can load just as fast, but yes the file size will be big.  I used OpenOffice before in an effort to minimize file size, yeah I like space not wasted but in the end reverted to OpenOffice because of issues using Documents, spacing and stuff. Any issues with Kingsoft buddy ?
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havocx
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Mar 26 2009, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 26 2009, 12:34 PM) sigh sigh argh~ gotta find some solution la if like this Oh yeah forgot yours is the 1002HA, and yes Ajay's right then. No replacement yet. Solution for now is to get a similar sized extra battery, for now. One reason why EEEPC's took a lot of my interest is the availability of 3rd party replacements for it as opposed to the rest. Im sure one will come your way soon
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havocx
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Mar 26 2009, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 26 2009, 05:07 PM) hopefully hehe i now bringing Hmm thats unclear. You're now bringing ? Youre bulking them in you mean ? If yes then its cool, maybe ill then consider the 1002's haha.
And oh, on that note, try installing some of Asus's homebrewed software where it then increases the lifespan of the battery by a little bit more. Those new EEEPC's 901 thats sold runs with same 6 cell batts same processor but now theyve advertised them as lasting *8 hours ( flight from New York to London ) so im sure some tuning on how the processor works might help. Im gonna test out the software from Asus and see how well the claim goes.This post has been edited by havocx: Mar 26 2009, 08:05 PM
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havocx
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Mar 26 2009, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Mar 26 2009, 06:37 PM) anyone got the 902ha yet? saw it at lowyat just now small n compact rm1299 Heya mate, you sure you got the model right though? Checks on official Asus sites shows no records of 902HA. Them 9 series with HA's are the 904HA and the 900HA. EEEPC List But then again of course with Asus's mind boggling releases, my 901GO model is also not listed and yet is there. So youre probably right too iZuDeen, just need the specs to help out to place the 902HA somehow Oh and googling didnt help ( for now ).
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havocx
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Mar 27 2009, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 26 2009, 10:56 PM) sigh no luck..they never tested the battery for 1002ha it seems i read that about the thing making 901 lasting 8 hours but it doesnt support for 1002ha and solely for 901 on the 1002ha they got a S.H.E button where by they tweaking the cpu speed at lower rate and higher rate but after using for months, doesnt save battery nor use any extra power, the only big differences that noticeable that is when playing some hi-res flash video become smoother, other stuff doesnt seen any changes btw..it seems that 1000 and 1002 model updated their bios often, i already updated for the 3rd time now (oh wait just check..got another newer version) updating bios seems increasing performance a bit because on one of the previous two bios it turns out that making my 1002ha sucking battery alot faster , and certain parts of the netbook felt warmer than usual, after updating to another newer bios after few week, the problem gone and it seems to run without getting warmer than usual for those who are using 1002ha the latest bios update version 0701 fix two function 1. update ec firmware 2. improve thermal protection function[  Hmm never did quite do an update on all my EEEPC's before, maybe I should look into that, maybe I can squeeze more juice out of my machines Thanks for the info buddy.
QUOTE(moto-moto @ Mar 27 2009, 06:45 AM) oh..that's sad...i would prefer a SDD hdd...so is there any chance that you might have info whether our neighbour country ie singapore has the "genuine" S101...thanks for the reply anyway..  ooo..but i saw most of the review pages in europe show that it comes with a 4cell battery,i only see msia s101H comes with 6 cell. Is it because europe is S101 and msia one is S101H??? Yep i prefer SSD's too, there is that slight speed factor when running highly intensive programs on it. Malaysians though im sure prefer the much larger storage as opposed to the tiny 16Gb of space but as long as you dont put junks into the HDD, itll run smooth no matter how small or how large it is.
And yes as a matter of fact I would have info on it or rather soon to have info on that. Ill be leaving for Singapore tonight and will actually be scouting around for more deals on the machine, thinking of getting perhaps more 3G based machine models. Ill update you folks when im back.
For your query, youve first perhaps might also wanna read on the review I had on how to get info on batteries. A 4 cell battery can also last 4 hours and if it lasts for 5 hours it does not necessarily mean its a 6 cell battery. Due to firewall limitations in my office I cant update any photos so im hoping the chart below comes out right. Actually the battery life also depends on how many WHR ( work hour Rating ? ) it has. A 2 cell battery with 120Whr would kick ass even a 31Whr 6 cell battery. So you'll need to actually calculate all that factor in. Also youve got to note that as Ive noticed the practise of many retailers here in Malaysia, they switch the batteries of the machine to that of a lower capacity one in view of making better returns on selling the original batteries for a better price later as replacement batteries.
S101 S101H 1002HA Cells 4-Cell 2-Cell 2-Cell Type Li-Poly Battery Life (official specs) 6 hrs 4 hrs 4.1 hrs Battery Life (actual) 4-5.2 hrs 3-4 hrs 3-4 hrs Recharge Time ~2 hrs ~1.83 hrs ~1.83 hrs Weight* 1096g 1182g 1265g
*Darn the charts above is not showing right, ill try and remedy that with an edit from home later.
Ooh and one final thing to also consider. Batteries in warmer climate dissipates faster than that in colder countries or rather in general, batteries which are always warm lose more power than one thats not.
Heres a rather informative citation Ive found somewhere before which I kept in my notes. Its rather long, which is why Ive put it in a spoiler. Hope it helps 
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Now listen up college students – your laptop battery is more than likely a Li-ion battery and if it is then there is a natural tendency to keep your laptop plugged into a wall outlet when you are close to one. You may also find that you are actually “plugged” in to a wall outlet more than you are not and there in lies a problem. When your laptop is plugged into a wall outlet your battery heats up big time and heat and lithium do not mix well together.
Hold on! You have to charge battery. Yes that is true, but you do not have to keep your laptop plugged into a wall outlet for the entire school year! But won’t that reduce my battery life if I’m constantly powered from the battery?
Your battery will diminish in capacity – the ability to charge and power your laptop. That is a fact and a natural consequence of batteries today. This diminishing power performance is called battery degradation and power loss. I have written on this topic before and you can read about it on my blog but on a high level a battery over time degrades and eventually stops working, this is no surprise, and it occurs due to the following technical processes: declining capacity, increasing internal resistance, elevated self-discharge, premature voltage cut-off on discharge.
So should you constantly keep your battery charged at 100% capacity? No you should not. Why? To answer that question let’s look at what is occurring when you charge a battery. When charging your battery you are forcing electrical current into a battery cell from a charger. The force of electrical current causes temperature increases.
Now it is true that contained within your laptop battery are integrated power management circuits that are designed to protect against over-voltage and under-voltage conditions that increase heat in the battery but one factor of how well a battery is being protected during a charge depends on the ratio of the heating rate versus the dissipation rate. If the heating rate is higher then the dissipation rate then thermal runaway will occur (leaking, smoking, gas venting, flames).
Now don’t go into panic mode since the integrated circuits are really good at keeping the heating rate lower than the dissipation rate and you are in extremely minimal danger of thermal runaway occurring. But the practice of keeping your battery charged continuously can negatively affect your battery’s longevity. So charge your battery and then run your laptop on battery power until you have to charge it again.
And to answer your question, nope, Malaysian markets only get S101H while Europe ones gets both the S101 and the S101H. Actually even our Singaporean neighbours gets both though Im sure most folks would go for the S101H simple because of the bigger HDD size. This post has been edited by havocx: Mar 27 2009, 09:01 AM
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havocx
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Mar 27 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 27 2009, 10:41 AM) i search for lowyat last month, not many shops selling s101 that comes with SSD..some doesn't even know what is a SSD Not many ? Or none ? See..dont fall into the same trap. S101 - Comes with SSD S101H - Comes with HDD. So if its a a S101 without a SSD, its not S101 its S101H. There's a difference Until we educate ourselves better, we wont know better.This post has been edited by havocx: Mar 27 2009, 10:48 AM
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Mar 27 2009, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 27 2009, 10:57 AM) got 1 shop but need to wait them get new stock overhere guess need deposit also la, EverNew the shop name, end up buying my 1002ha from them also. one of the misleading shop i encounter. that i know but in their catalog written as "s101" 6-cell then with a picture of s101 model there quite misleading shop i think, but cannot remember what shop name is it, one of those shop that located at those back alley they says its a 6-cell, comes with ssd, and price rm2399, for that pricing when i wanted to buy that time they give me a s101h instead..i ask them they said no more selling s101 that comes with ssd and price still same, wah if i paid already that time sure got conned Haha cool, Evernew actually is personally a good choice from my point of view. They have an outlet in Digital Mall PJ as well, lower ground floor near the escalator going down. All my Malaysian bought EEEPC's were bought from them so you can see I had good experience with them.
Ive found some rather interesting info on batteries in case you'd like to know more. Here's the difference of how flat and slim your batteries are as opposed to the other batteries. For now though, power capacity still needs to be worked on though.

Some charts here. Tests done by Hardwarezone Malaysia.
Lower Numbers are better.

Higher numbers for below is better.

And here's the clincher, the higher the numbers the better.

Youll then see why I went for the 901 This post has been edited by havocx: Mar 27 2009, 11:15 AM
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Mar 27 2009, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 27 2009, 11:29 AM) hahah EverNew their staff know what they are selling, know well about their product stuff. oh..so big difference for 1002ha vs 1000h battery size? i thought they just got extra bigger at the end haha the power chart, can see that hp mini note struggle with numbers  Heh yep, its their companies fault in any case, the original Mini Note was fitted with a Celeron running on a non optimal system. Of course it takes in more battery. Not to mention only giving a measly 3 cell. Did they learn ? Oh no, their new Mini Note, they added Atom but still on 3 cell battery and they had a proprietary VGA Port. Sungguh tidak pandai. Although i must say I am smitten by their designs but those flaws and the gall the price it the same like other Netbooks, thats just hilarious.
QUOTE(neosx88 @ Mar 27 2009, 04:06 PM) halo... juz wana to ask.. any one saw this cute item before Asus Eee Drive http://internetsiao.com/wp-content/uploads...7/eee-drive.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/paul...ss/DSCN0365.jpgis it available in Malaysia?? how much for it leh?? look cool and match with our EEE pc! Not in Malaysia yet.
The first accessory is an Eee PC external hard drive (or Eee Drive). From the pictures, the black glossy square drive has an extending USB port. Perhaps this will come bundled with smaller SSD versions of the system, or it will just be an added upgrade for those have used up all their mini-notebook space.

But hey, we've already got an abundance of External 2.5" around with the largest going for about 500gb, from the size of those Id think they are SSD's. Personally for me then between an External SSD and External HDD ill choose External HDD since no matter how fast the SSD is it will still be limited to the 480mb transfer speed of the USB 2.0.
Also appearing on the scene is an external Eee PC optical drive (or Eee Writer). Not much to say about this but it sure will help with the restore discs that ASUS provides in the Eee PC boxes.

This i think would be for major EEEPC fanboys. I for one believe in running everything from USB Thumbdrives even with the number of EEEPCs I have 
Saving the best for last, ASUS has come up with a branded 3G connection card called the T500. The card seems to fit into a USB port.

Now this would be interesting if it came to Malaysia and with a good price 
QUOTE(moto-moto @ Mar 27 2009, 04:34 PM) thanks havocx...hope to get some good news when you come back from singapore...  btw..do you have charts that compare battery life to screen size ratio..thanks Sure thing bro, I leave in about 2 hours from the house. If you looked at the charts actually you can also about guess the screen size from the models listed but ill look one up for you.
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Mar 27 2009, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(emino @ Mar 27 2009, 07:31 PM) I actually would digg the ssd ext hd. means that i can bang them as hard as i want without having to worry about internal disk damage. external, probably. HahaThumbdrive kan ader ? Largest current capacity 32GB. Largest affordable SSD ( cough cough ) consumer drive 64Gb. Largest commercial SSD 128GB. Im sure Thumbdrive boleh  Remember USB2.0 speed limitation. Now if they come each in USB 3.0 format then yes ill ditch them in a heartbeat
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Mar 30 2009, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(lily_butterfly @ Mar 28 2009, 09:46 AM) Been to Low Yat today and have a look at the 1002 HA. One of the sales man told me that the battery is 6 cells. He show me the battery and I noticed that it is 7.4V and 4800mAH. So 7.4v divided by 3.6 is 2.05 which round up to 2 4800mAH divided by 2200mAH is 2.18 which round up to 2 2x2 is 4 ......?!?!?! so the battery is a 4 cells battery not 6???? QUOTE(ajay67 @ Mar 28 2009, 11:50 AM) Haha semua pandai read Battery capacities already eh 
QUOTE(Maximp @ Mar 28 2009, 02:05 PM) the lowyat person got trick you? some shop very dishonest to tell the truth, some say 6 cell some say 4 cell, but the fact is 1002ha is a 2cell li-poly its a +7.3V 4200Mah, 2 cell battery only, but this 2 cell actually quite strong..can lasted 3-4hours depending how u use it. ====== btw...he probably take s101 battery for you to see, which is a 4cell, actually not compatible to 1002ha Added on March 30, 2009, 11:47 ami just realize this thread during weekend = holiday heheh no one posting on sat and sunday Maximp is quite right, some shops are actually dishonest. They exchange a better one for a lower capacity one. Again though, sometimes when you see a claim by the manufacturer that the batteries lasts for more than 5 hours or so and find out they are only 4 cells, it also depends what types of batteries as well as where is it being used on, ie batteries on an Atom processor will definitely last much longer than one on Celeron, on larger screens will be lower than on smaller screens.
It also depends on the power consumption of the machine itself as well other than the more obvious usage of it. Blasting mp3 while bluetooth and wifi on wont help a small machine ( which should have lower capacity ) as opposed to a larger machine running on lower power use, ie normal word on the machine.
You'd see that more often than not, 6 cell batteries should last about 6 hours or much more, this depends on the machine youre using it on as well as how youre using it and the build of the machine in itself. The new Samsung U310 for instance, runs a 6 cell battery and 10.2 inch screen and yet claims a battery life of 11 hours ( in real life should last about 9 hours i think ). So thats a whopping difference from what of that is the normal preception of how many cells in a battery should last.
Nevertheless, it never goes wrong to always insist on getting higher cell batteries of course 
Maximp, I usually reply on weekends too but since I was away in Singapore last weekend I wasnt able to. Tempted to reply while on the go but my laptop ended up being a charger for my Iphone and my buddies Iphone. Sigh..haha.
Penyu3 In any case, over the causeway, after the price throwing of last week of the laptops, the netbooks are back to their old high prices again. The only I went there 2 times in a row during the last month of Feb and the first week of March was to get their Netbooks which price were going lower and lower at the time. Right now Im guessing after the IT Show a week back their prices are back to normal again. For now, the laptops you get here is a better choice in terms of pricing though I hear theres gonna be a huge price slash again middle of April.
What they have there though is more of a humoungous selection and option for Netbooks. Among the more impressive Netbooks were 10.2 Inch LG Notebook with 3G built in. Dell Inspiron Mini 9 with 3G built in, unlocked and selling at RM1650, thats much better than the Maxis plan one here. Samsung N110 with 6 cells and 9.5 hours battery life. HP 1001 Netbook with VGA adapter, yes none of that Proprietory Connector nonsense.
Wouldve gotten me one of the above if money permitted but since I was only there to accompany a buddy of mine to get his Wedding Ring, i didnt spend as much time in the IT centers as I hoped. Lucky too or there goes again a whopping Credit card bill This post has been edited by havocx: Mar 30 2009, 10:00 PM
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havocx
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Apr 1 2009, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Mar 31 2009, 04:34 PM) wow...N110 seems a cool,although not as flashy as Asus S101 but it has 9 hours battry life...  ... Agreed, heres what a netbook should be in my personal opinion. 1. Appearance : It has to look slim. The 901 that I have pushes that quite a bit but it still is slim and only has the appearance of being fat. Netbooks like Asus S101 are very exquisite in that they showcase the epitome of slimness but as with most things if it looks nice but does not function well, it beats the purpose. The Sony Pocket Netbook for instance, gorgeous, expensive, and a trackstick ? Yes you can always use a Bluetooth mouse but hey they should give you one when you buy the laptop The EEBook from FTEC, looks nice but its FAT so that doesnt work with small and nice too.
2. Battery Life : No matter how you look at it, a Netbook should also be the epitome of battery life with relative comparison to the price. Netbooks need to have the best possible battery life around so 2-4 hours just dont cut it. Unless of course its dirt cheap like the 701's were. Why relative comparison ? Well, theres now Dell Business Laptops as well as HP Business Laptops which boasts battery life from 13 hours to 24 hours running without needing to be recharged. Now while thats is very tempting, the price starts from about RM8k and above which makes a RM1400 netbook with a battery life of 5-6 hours sound like an amazing bargain.
3. Price : As always it must be relative and it must be cheap. A netbook which costs more than RM2300 is probably isnt worth it if it loses out in the other aspects of what makes a netbook a netbook. I take for instance Sony with their Pocket Notebook, it starts cheapest at about RM2400, it has most of the bells and whistles the other laptop in the market has, its darn thin and slim with a wonderful keyboard, but a pointing stick ? It also lags while I was using it and battery life was not that great. For that price, id expect, free bluetooth wireless mouse, 2gb Ram, Wireless N, Bluetooth and 3G built in.
My 2 1/2 cents.
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Apr 2 2009, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Apr 1 2009, 03:32 PM) Yea..absolutely agree with the sony P...i was attracted with the slimness at 1st..but then when those reviews showed it is not using a track pad and it is abt RM2800...it is definitely not worth it... btw...just curious...samsung and msi are going to release 10" netbook which has more than 9hrs battery life this april but did not see any news abt asus eee having netbook that gonna compete with them...did i miss some news abt asus new netbook???  Battery life is actually relative. Sometimes its the exact same cells used in the same laptops but then its how the motherboard and parts inside which sometimes takes more or less batteries. Another factor would also be what software are used to control the flow of power out of the machine, ie the use of power saving capabilities.
And yes you did. The 1000HE runs 9.5hours on its battery life. So yes EEEPC's part of that pack as well
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