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PC Audio Edifier Fan Club V4, where great sound comes to LIFE!

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andrew9292
post Jul 17 2009, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Jul 17 2009, 04:17 PM)
i know there are definitions for the long-throw subwoofer.
just that, i rarely think people will use that term to "explain" the sound of the subwoofer itself.

just like down-firing... doesnt mean down-firing will be better. im not too sure, but i can place side-firing sub to be downfiring and vice-versa. not much difference heard...

i guess what im trying to say is.., those terms doesnt really explain much.
more likely used in marketing than designing.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jul 17 2009, 04:18 PM)
what i know about GMX is it's heavvy for a 6.5" subwoofer.
the box just steady when playing loud

can explain in short? rclxub.gif
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True, in other words it means...listen to how it sounds, not what the specs sheet says...
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post Jul 17 2009, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 17 2009, 05:48 PM)
It's better for Edifier to stay low-profile and avoid to associate with THX, so i can afford it at lower price but get same performance with so-called THX certified speaker.
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Yes rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

I find that THX certified multimedia speakers got no big different with non certified at the same price range and type.

But THX cert. cinema got big difference with non certified
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post Jul 18 2009, 11:47 PM

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Went to ALL IT to test edifiers in Ikano today...very friendly salesmen there...let me test nicely rclxms.gif

Tested M3300, M3300SF, C3, S330, S530

Well for the price, M3300 and M3300SF is really good clarity... but bass wise is very lacking, when bass heavy song the woofer gush out alot of air from the port and cause alot of "wind" sound from the port too.

C3, although cheaper than S330, i still think it sounds much better than S330. C3's treble extension is higher and bass is more punchy, but not loud. The best setting i found in that shop is 6/7 Sub - 4 Treble. Bass is punchy and clear, can hear every note clearly, but is sound quite dry, not much excitement. Not muddy at all with all the songs i throw at it. However at low volume the bass is almost non existent.

S330 on the other hand can provide more mid range detail, like the background crowd in the song Hotel California can be heard clearer than S330, but the woofer seems abit loose and can get boomy at times, often overdo the bass for the songs. Also i cant seem to find the right setting to give me the best balance.. The treble extension not as good as C3 too. I dont know, might be the placement of the speakers but thats what i heard to day

S530 dont need say much, best. Beat every speaker there hands down except its bigger brother S730. Even "THX" MX5021 loses to it

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post Jul 19 2009, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jul 19 2009, 03:10 AM)
great review altho contradict with what i read in other reviews...maybe personal preference.....how bout s530 compare to logitech z2300.....s530 700++ right?.......
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I see, regarding the C3 and S330 right? I've tested S330 a few places too, but still find the bass abit "messy" and cant seem to find the right setting for the bass knob to match the sats. S330's bass for me, abit too thick/big to match with it satellite speakers which sound clean and slightly thin. C3 on the other hand quite constant sound wherever i test it... bass usually around 6 and treble not exceed 4. C3's bass Quality is good but Quantity is lacking

Yeah, s530 got better vocal and instrument placing and the bass is not so "big/messy" until it overpowers the music...compare to logitech


QUOTE(nismo91 @ Jul 19 2009, 01:16 PM)
i agree with your reviews. since previously i've said that C3 bass is actually good. just lack of "power". but its definitely better than S330 sub alone.
for S330 sats, its clean and sharp, but C3 is warmer...

and regarding MX5021. too bad, the current stock is getting worse and worse. each time i audition (yesterday i did again, even the old one with curve) i feel like, the very first MX5021 in few years back, was it 2005? it was so good. now, not even worthy to carry THX mark.
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tongue.gif i kena posion by c3 edy... s330 sounds abit imbalance for me lah...bass too "kao" plus its more expensive rclxub.gif

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post Jul 19 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Jul 19 2009, 04:35 PM)
There was a user here, but now he seems like not coming here anymore, quite hard to find this 2.0 I think, it's good for music though.
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QUOTE(mactreouser @ Jul 19 2009, 05:30 PM)
really? it's out of stock? saw some still selling it on some website like moresales.com.my

So, it's a good pair?

mostly how many RMS do you ask for to Pop Rock Music?
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I think i saw the R1900TIII at ALL IT ikano power center, not sure if it is actually R1900TIII, but based on google picts i found it looks very similar...but ALL IT have to order it 1st as they have no stock
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post Jul 31 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 31 2009, 12:20 AM)
The USB speaker looks very 80s or early 90s design sweat.gif
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loos very classic & retro, and sorry to say cheap. but that all wont matter if it sounds good ; )
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post Aug 9 2009, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Aug 9 2009, 03:34 PM)
Guys,

I just got my Edifier C3 2.1 speakers today. Need some help and advice.

I am also currently using the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 (USB).

The soundcard has 4 ports/output (Front Left, Front Right, Rear and Subwoofer) and the Speaker's Amp has 2 ports/input (Left, Right).

How do I connect them? Do I just use dual RCA to 3.5mm connector from the amp to connect with the dual RCA to 3.5mm jack from the souncard? Or should I go get 2x RCA to RCA cable? 

Thanks...
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Either way will do, u can use RCA(@C3)-3.5mm(@SC) or RCA(@C3)-RCA(@SC). just make sure your soundcard got RCA out if u want to use RCA RCA method. But my personal preference is RCA-RCA
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oh i forgot C3 has an AUX (3.5mm) input infront the AMP too, means you can use 3.5mm@C3 -3.5mm@SC or 3.5mm@C3 - 2RCA@SC

it's really versatile, depends on what u prefer...but sound quality wise on the different inputs i cant comment because i dont own a C3...perhaps some c3 users wana discuss whether diff inputs give diff sound?

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erm...I read before somewhere that AUX input has higher sensitivity and this can give louder and fuller sound? Anyone can give some info on how this works?

when do we use AUX and do we use the RCA inputs?

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post Sep 10 2009, 03:48 PM

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someone's S550... in a small-medium size room

DAMN POWER! HOLY SHIT!


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post Sep 15 2009, 11:54 PM

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woofer and satellite are edifier s530... but this is 5.1??
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post Sep 16 2009, 08:00 PM

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I remembered last time Mr.Edifier told me that the reason why my M3400 woofer front LED and remote light will go dim when the bass slam is, the woofer needs more power to "slam" and thus it takes away the power from the LED, making it dimmer/blinking when the bass is loud/thump/slam.

So i thought, if i disable the LED wouldn't the woofer be less "hungry" for power.

I open the back panel of my M3400 today, to my delight i found out there is removable connector on the circuit board that says "LED 1". I removed the connector and closed the woofer panel and turned it on. The front LED if off.

So i played a song that has quite punchy bass, and wala! no more "crunchy"/underpower sound when the bass slams. Not only that, everything seems louder and more smooth than before. The LED backlight of the remote cant be disabled tho, but now even when i on it loud, the LED backlight on the remote does not go dim/blink anymore ; ) Which also means the woofer is not that "hungry" for power liao ;p

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Sep 16 2009, 09:44 PM)
nice info
wah like that means most speakers that use LED and "dim" when subwoofer slam means need power from led ah? maybe i go remove all irritating LED from all systems. lol. but your M3400, the dim not really bad right? i used to own M3300, it only dim slightly, compared to cheapo speaker i own before..
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Dim quite a lot, but it really depends on the song. If loose bass songs like rave or house genre then it does not dim so much. But those tight bass songs where need to woofer to be really "quick" then it does dim down a lot.

QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 16 2009, 11:54 PM)
Re:andrew9292

awesome.
I'm gonna try it immediately!
wish me good luck that it works for me too thumbup.gif
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good luck ; )
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post Sep 27 2009, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(radi3tz @ Sep 26 2009, 11:50 PM)
guys(and hopefully Mr.Edifier too brows.gif ), please help me to choose the right speaker for my taste.
I'm planning to buy a speaker to replace the vs4121 black(not good for my style)
I have Cre*tiv* x-fi xtreme audio pci express sound card,
with my budget (around 150$) I can buy either:
C3 (150$ in my place) or s330d (140$)
they're not avaible in my town, so I should take the shipping fee too.
I like music very much in every aspect, watch movies sometimes and play games often
(but I don't really care sound quality for games, it's music that's important)
I use the speakers for PC.
I like of curz detailed sound, some clarity, but also the punch of the bass (like kick drum)
what's make me confused is some said s330d is good powered&clarity with tight bass,
I like that very much, but some said with x-fi soundcard the speaker become overbright and the bass be too heavy
c3 is like a masterpiece, very depends on the source. so with great expensive card it should beat the s330d.(s330d is like already process the source on its own)
the problem is my soundcard is not that expensively great, it's standard. .
after thinking somewhile I prefer s330d(60%) than c3(40%) because of it's value rclxub.gif
please leave comment/suggestion for this.. thanks too everyone who cares to this newbie icon_rolleyes.gif ,
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1st of all...noticed u joined yesterday... welcome to lowyat forums rclxms.gif

Your analysis is correct...c3 is a masterpiece, for me after rounds and rounds of testing the models at shops, i will say i prefer c3...

S330 for me is too bassy and it's really heavy on the bass. Sat's are clear but overall soundstage, c3 wins. Plus c3 has a good sub actually, bass is tight. in other words, c3 has good bass quality but less in quantity.

s330 has more quantity in bass but less on quality... and s330 you wont the option of fine tuning the treble which is bad if you need to tune it to your room's acoustic...

also, c3 has a more sensitive input literally... because the shops uses cheapsake $20 cd player and a "audio router" to route the audio to all the speakers. When i use my handphone direct to s330, i cant really hear a difference, but with c3, indeed the sound improve a lot and actually IMO it sounds better than s330

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 6 2009, 09:46 AM)
Edifier DA5000 Pro Mini Home Theater System (New product)
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rclxms.gif What's the expected selling price?
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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 6 2009, 10:09 AM)
The SRP of DA5000Pro RM699.
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I see.

Hmm... 1st time see Edifier woofer uses a long throw woofer.
If i not mistaken long throw woofer means the woofer is the type that has large excursion?

Like most Edifier woofer now the woofer cone move a little, but sounds loud, disadvantage is low volume the woofer move very little, bass is hard to hear but at high volume it will be and advantage because it can go loud without bottoming out easily. Long throw woofer means the woofer will move quite a lot despite at low volume and long throw produces more loose bass, like the kind of bass in cinema, which is suitable for movies...

Is that the difference between a normal woofer and a long throw woofer?

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post Oct 7 2009, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 7 2009, 09:27 AM)
In fact, all the Edifier use the long throw woofer smile.gif
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oh i see, didnt know that.

because i see all the altec lansing use long throw woofer and the woofer move a lot but the sound is not very low/loud... so i thought long those is those kind of woofers that move a lot...

still wondering what is long throw, cant find anything on google about it

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Oct 7 2009, 07:27 PM)
i also didnt find anything though very interested in it. my common sense would be long throw driver has more excursion to short throw subwoofer. but since the term "short throw subwoofer" doesnt even exist in my google search, i'd say it's probably just a marketing term, like PMPO, which is not really useful after all.
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QUOTE(power911 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:20 PM)
long-throw,short-throw, they are all still speakers tongue.gif
don't worry about stuff. It's just something to make them sound cool laugh.gif
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Agreed... How many mm/cm of excursion is long throw? Then how many is short throw?

Long or short, Edifier still rocks ; ) tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cjs7875 @ Oct 10 2009, 10:18 PM)
haiz....who is s330 user here that live near kajang 1 can come to my house listen my s330 whether got problem or not??
or s330 user here can help figure it out is my problem or the speaker problem....
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May i know your sound setup (what Media Player & Sound card) you use?
Also, what songs you were listening to have echo effect?

What other sources you have? Cd player? Dvd player? Mp3 player?
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post Oct 22 2009, 12:09 AM

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In my opinion, both are nearly as good as each other in terms of sound and built quality.

It's down to which sound signature you prefer...

C3 does not have it's own "sound" and will follow the source, so if you use a poor source like on-board sound port, C3 will reveal it's flaws and sound weak especially in terms of bass.
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post Oct 22 2009, 05:33 PM

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Yeap, you will need at least a X-Fi series card to bring it out. If not more expensive cards like Asus or Auzentech...

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