LATEST UPDATE.

After almost 4 years since my first job at Sunway, I can't believe I am still receiving emails on this subject and this thread is still active. Kinda nostalgic for me to read my post on the matter and it seems there were some level of immaturity in me at that point of time

I will still leave my post under as unedited for all to read but now I have started my own company in Singapore since year 2010 after my various job roles within the Sunway Group business units.

I must say that the experience within the various business units have equipped me with good experience overall from sales, marketing and technical skill sets. However, had it been done in a more structured manner and if there were proper processes at that time, it would definitely be more beneficial.

I am sure with the revamped programme, kinks should be worked out by now and the last time I kept in touch with the HR personnel running this programme it still sounds very competitive in terms of compensation and benefits compared to the industry offerings.

All SMART trainees are excellent individuals and I have good memories with every one of them. For those who have managed to get into the programme, congratulations, best of luck to your careers and hopefully we might meet one day in any of the reunions of the SMART alumni

P.S: I may still reply to some PMs but it won't be as frequent as I'd like due to workload from running the business

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Hi all,

Since my last postings about Sunway Group a year or more earlier, I have been receiving a lot of PMs ever since about working in Sunway, benefits, working environment, about the SMART Programme which I am part of. So instead of just answering the PMs one by one, I decided to just start a thread.

So please feel free to ask about it, I will try to give you my unbiased views but bear in mind that of course my views are affected by the experiences I go through. So fire away with the questions~!




Perhaps I shall answer a few questions first from the PMs I got:-

forumer trust86 asked:-



Well yes I am still working in Sunway and generallhy the Sunway SMART Programme is a management trainee programme that you will find in all other MNC companies. It is a 2 year programme which aims to put you in a managerial position after that (though I still have not seen any member of the programme beyond an assistant manager level, so take their claim with a pinch of salt). What you get with it is the various kinds of training, rotation to different business units in the first 6 months and also the exposure to top level management.

Now for the bad part, as good as it may sound they still put you into normal positions after that which I think really kind of defeats the purpose of recruiting high calibre people and putting them to do grunt work. Having said that, it also depends on which business unit you get into. So if you are one of the lucky ones to go into profitable business units then beautiful.

Interview wise I would think it is very engaging (the final stages) but just to give you an idea you start off with a presentation after the initial selection. Then you will be short-listed from there and invited to a day-long interview where there are 3 stages of 'management games'. Overall I felt it was quite fun. won't be that difficult if your command of English is good and you have achieved your CGPA or results in an above average manner.


Raven 22 asked:-



1 - Don't count on the average it differs WIDELY from BU to BU. You may get from none to up till 5 months depending on the business unit you are in.

2. - Again, don't count on mega increases, especially in today's climate. You won't nail much from the increment, at most perhaps it might be 20%. But when you are working, I don't think demanding an increment average is good. You will be rewarded handsomely if you contribute accordingly.

3. - Benefits, hmmm I guess there are a lot of discounts in Sunway related companies (i.e. Pyramid and hotels) that you can get but I guess for me the best would be the 50% education off in Sunway University College and the property discount that you get. But be careful~! All of them comes with terms and conditions. For example, the education discount does not cover the better degrees and MBAs like when I was applying for my Victoria University MBA. And the property discount only comes after you have been working 2 years with the group.

4. - Honestly, I will recommend a friend only if they are joining good business units with the right management team, other than that all the other BUs just plain sucks! An idea of the good companies would be just to look at the money generating ones (i.e. SunCity, SunCon, Sunway Medical, Sunway University College & Sunway Marketing). My personal favorite would be SunCity because I like it that their management has a long-term view and up-to-date on current developments.


Had a long chat with forumer Y3n as well but no updates after the final interview. Hope to hear from you though

This post has been edited by lord_shadow: Apr 26 2012, 01:43 AM

oh... good, i am also working in sunway,
received numerous amount of PM about that too,
almost covered all d... ya.. i also think suncity is the best..

lord shadow ...

do sunway provide car park for stuff ?

thanks , , ,

Well the answer to car park is a both yes and no

If you are senior management and above then of course you get a car park

They have a staff car park just besides Menara Sunway and opposite the Resort Hotel but you will have to pay a monthly fee for it. Usually you will have to queue up on a list for these parking privileges

Now good thing is, they also open up a season parking for the staff in the shopping center so that you can just walk over from the car park.

If you are looking for free parking, then either get cosy with the people who issue these cards or get your way up to senior management

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Added on October 29, 2008, 6:57 pmfirecrac, which BU are you working for? Based in Malaysia?

This post has been edited by lord_shadow: Oct 29 2008, 06:57 PM

i just applied a job at Sunway City Berhad..keeping my fingers crossed!

SunCity's a good choice

Let me know when you get in there, I have lotsa SMART trainee friends in there

i going for sunway BPO interview. some executive position.

any comment?

btw, i'm not an IT student. do u think i have a future there?

My fren told me that sunway do have a geotechical team. Is that true?

Amanda85,

Sunway BPO has generally a good concept of the business and I like their GM as he is very practical, takes care of his employees and has good vision. Just be careful on what position you are in, Sunway BPO are generally technical positions.

Of course the other thing is that it may be sales that you are looking at.


Shingin,

Sorry, don't know much about the geotechnical team. But I would assume that you are referring to SunCon here.

Means overall the place is good

yea..
one of the SunCon's arm

This post has been edited by firecrac: Dec 1 2008, 08:27 PM

How about sunway pyramid or sunway carnival? Hows the benefit there? Any bonus? and working environment? Anybody know?

saw an interesting position Legal Officer with Sunway Medical, anyone has any 2 cents about Sunway Medical?

I know they just expanded their building... but in relations to management and administration matters remains trully a mistery to me..

Amanda85,
Sunway BPO is BU for outsourcing business.
Its actually related to Sunway SSC (Shared Service Centre) namesake.

The reason of this is Sunway SSC is a cost centre and it handles internal outsourcing of BUs and subsidiaries, as the name suggests.

So, BPO comes into play as an entity to deal with external business outsourcing due to some legal/bureaucracy issues as SSC is a cost centre and is not allowed a P&L whereas BPO can.

As you know, cari makan within your own company is tough as every BU will squeeze everything out of you and getting some extra cash outside to fund your projects is not a bad thing. Thats basically the history.

Most positions in BPO are business related, not much technical; but of course you have to know some IT as you are dealing with IT oursourcing and the biz offering/proposition of the company. Usually is the front end where you deal/meet with customers and prepare proposals/SLAs, tender and stuff.

I encourage if anyone that is able to join the SMART, please join SunCity as there is more room for you to grow and move up. SunCity places alot of efforts in this programme and in fact the idea of SMART is pioneered by 1 of the director in SunCity. You'll be able to get 1-to-1 mentoring sessions with the ED weekly. Good stuff. I do not recommend considering other BUs.

ou....sounds like sunway is a good company....I have a fren that joined via SMART as well, now edy landed herself with sunmed....she seems to be happy and satisfy with her job there...

This post has been edited by Xanny: Jan 11 2009, 05:23 PM

I think I apply for Sunway at least 5 times already. no luck at all. M going for Admin or HR position. Mostly i apply with pyramid, sunway U or sunway medical centre. so far no luck

I worked there after I grad... I'm surprised so many ppl say it's tough to get in

i applied as a fresh grad too, but they only offer me RM1.8k n they expect me to do OT with no claims, n no free parking for junior staff

so i accepted another company's higher offer, but surprisingly sunway actually called me up for a counter offer and keep reciting me all their staffs benefits, which can be quite tempting

This post has been edited by Amanda85: Jan 11 2009, 06:43 PM

How about engineering job in Sunway huh??

Maybe because I'm not degree holder but with few yrs experience? But other public listed co do hire me. I guess it is all up to the empployer



if a company counter offer you, means they really want you. Maybe you can voice out your concern?

the most they can increase is RM200. but is still far off from other offers.

Is it me or does it seem that mostly everyone in the thread here just focuses on the $$$ factor

Anyways, my advise to those coming out would be not to focus on $$$ so much, but perhaps look at your prospects of career and character development. This would go a long way.

true...
money cant give u everything in life...hoho... job statisfaction is the way to go ^^

lord,
when bonus out huh ? what's up with the meal allowance ?

This post has been edited by firecrac: Jan 15 2009, 09:47 PM

I know Sunway got bright future, that's way I'm aiming on it.

Yesterday My fren just told me she got offer from Sunway but she got less experience and exposure compare to me (same line). Heartbroken lor . this is her first time apply Sunway and she got it.

what is the interview process like in the ssc? how many people interviews you?

during interview, the one who can talk well get the job..

i applied for BPO. and there are 3 interviewers. all throwing questions at the same time until dunno who to answer 1st.

This post has been edited by Amanda85: Feb 5 2009, 06:28 PM

was this at the shared services one?

TS, please share with us more about SSSC, the management, the atmosphere etc. Appreciate it.

Sunway got affected by economic downturn mou?

When you talk about SSC? Which one are you referring to? ITSSC ? Finance SS

it's nt diff to get recruited in ssc i guess. cuz when i go in i realised few of my ex college mates r there adi.

Yes, SSQ project code number RC3 was stopped, onli piling has been done, it can be seen on site.

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Added on February 26, 2009, 1:03 amWhere got future 1. Which department u wanna enter? Sunway design? Sunway hotel resort n spa? Sunway supply chain management? Sunway city Berhad? Dekon? Dekon style? Sunwaymas? Suncon?

Lemme noe see if i can help u or not.

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Added on February 26, 2009, 1:05 amWhere got future 1. Which department u wanna enter? Sunway design? Sunway hotel resort n spa? Sunway supply chain management? Sunway city Berhad? Dekon? Dekon style? Sunwaymas? Suncon?

Lemme noe see if i can help u or not.

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Added on February 26, 2009, 1:06 amWhere got future 1. Which department u wanna enter? Sunway design? Sunway hotel resort n spa? Sunway supply chain management? Sunway city Berhad? Dekon? Dekon style? Sunwaymas? Suncon?

Lemme noe see if i can help u or not.

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Added on February 26, 2009, 1:14 amWhere got future 1. Which department u wanna enter? Sunway design? Sunway hotel resort n spa? Sunway supply chain management? Sunway city Berhad? Dekon? Dekon style? Sunwaymas? Suncon?

Lemme noe see if i can help u or not.

This post has been edited by babytensai: Feb 26 2009, 01:14 AM

How about IT SSC? Any sharing about it?

They're recruiting for SMART again. I wonder, how does Sunway SMART program compare with other MNC's Management Trainee programs? I know they are both Management Trainee programs, but how do they compare? ie: their structure, job scope, prospects, etc...

Hi all..so impressed that you all willing to help every1 out~
I am looking for a job as well in sunway group, but i'm still confuse what job is suitable for me..I'm a degree holder in communication..just got 3.0 cpga still can get any better job?prefer 9-5 office hour job..any suggestion?thanks..

why do you want to work there in the first place? location?

1stly,i stay at sunway 2nd, sunway group founder is chinese ^^ i feel proud of him!!

good luck working in sunway group. i am sure with your preconceptions you will be a loyal staff there.

can i noe hw mch wil they pay for this smart program?

Well for people who are going into the SMART program, I better advise that you have a clear vision on where you are headed because often than not, the developments are usually on the job training.

Yes, I have graduated from the program. And I wouldn't use the word 'product' mainly because everyone turns out differently depending on their personality and like I have mentioned which BU which has sponsored you.

Hi, can you hint on what kind of questions they will ask in the phone interview?

how about Sunway Keramo? anyone working there?

sunway's HR exec called me just now for interview session at sunway medical centre.any fella working there?i need some info about the working environment , career development etc.

new office due to expansion to new wing.

Sunway group is big.. gt chance jus join in and learn from them

owh i tot the construction work is oredi finished. ahjames do you working there?may i know in which unit?

I would suggest not to give general advise without solid evidence to back up the statements. Careers form a big part of our lives (whether we like to admit it or not), and my advise is to join a company where the culture and their mission fits your personality, it will take you much further than you can imagine.

got offer from sunmed and i will start work on july.. any fella working there?

Hi, I am going for a third interview on Monday at Dekon Sdn Bhd.

THe position is HR- industrial/employee relations officer.
I'm a fresh grad with BSc Physics.

During the second interview, we discussed about the job descriptions and some other details.
If I'm selected, I would be paid around RM1500 - RM1800 (unconfirmed),
increment and bonus is based on performance after 6 months of probation period.

So is this a offer a fair one from Dekon?
Anyway I am quite interested in the job actually, somehow feels that I can learn a lot from this position.
Thanks and regards.

Can anyone tell me anything about being an intern for sunway? hehe

I can't say in more specifics because I don't know what's the average pay for a graduate in Physics, but I reckon if you are a graduate with good results, shouldn't the pay be at least RM2K and above?

may i know how's the interview process in sunway group? issit 1 to 1 or group interview?

chinaman company

This post has been edited by Avex: Jul 4 2009, 12:48 PM

Well, like I said it depends on which business unit you are talking about. Like I said, I have some good admiration and praises for SunCity, unlike most of the other business units.

Dear TS,

I have recently graduated with a Bachelor Degree in Civil Engineering.

With the said qualification, which BU can I join?

Ps. On another note, is SunCon a good place to start for a freshie?

Regards.

Civil Engineering hmmm..... yeah SunCon seems to be the best BU to start off with your qualification. Of course my advise is don't let your options be limited by what your qualification allows you to do.

Is Civil Engineering what you want as a job?

anyone here applied to sunway group for ICAEW training programme?
If ys,can i know how is the interview process?Thank you in advance:)

Wanna ask lord shadow, how about ITSSC in Sunway Holdings? I sent resume already, since you say Sunway Groups depend on which BU we are in, I would like to hear your recommendation ~ you can pm me or reply here , Thank for advise!

Hi, can anyone tell me how do i apply for the SMART programme? Cos I'm graduating soon & totally hv no working exp b4
I look into sunway website & it did not mention how to apply for the program. Ohya the requirement said need to be 25 years old? if below 25yrs old can apply or not?
Looking forward for ur help thanks in advance!

Hi,i have some question to ask regarding the staff benefit in Sunway Group. In their web site, stated that there is Education Assistance Program, tuition fees discount for staff. So, is there any Sunway staff here currently benefited from this program? Do share your experience for other benefits too. Thank you.

Just call the HR up and ask when is the next SMART programme intake, they will usually advertise in the major newspapers when they are hiring for the SMART programme. And don't worry about the age as it's the competencies and your results that matter.

I got in to the programme despite me not even graduated yet at that time. So it's really the attitude and your academic performance that counts initially before you get to the interview process.

ohh okay thanks lord_shadow

Shadow i read your first post with great interest. it sounds like u were saying that the program is not as great as its hyped up to be, and u say u dont know anyone who has reached a manager position from it? That was one year ago though..has that changed?

also i know that after the 2 year smart program there is another fast track program that best-performing smarts may be accepted into? do u know anything about this?

To those curious..I know someone that got into the July intake this year. So i guess the next intake will only be next year. =)

No denying the fact that probably much has changed since the last year, boy it's been a year and if not for you guys digging up the thread i would have forgotten about it. Well, two of my close friends in the batch has indeed reached managerial status, so it really boils down to the individual and the company you are in.

Yup, you are correct to say that after the 2 year program there is another program which is called the Young Hi-Po (Potential) programme. It's just another level of management trainee where they prepare you for a bigger role.

For total disclosure, I have just left the Sunway group just last month but of course I will help out as much as I can in the questions as I am still considered an 'alumni' I guess

how the working environment at sunway now ?

it differs depend on which Sunway group you are working with.

there are so many groups under Sunway.

ic , how about sunway city?

How about sales position within any of Sunway's BU? Which one offers the best incentives and commission and bonus?

anyone working in menara sunway ?

hi,
i've got an interview this week at SSSC for the general ledger assoc. Any advise? how's the working environment?

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This post has been edited by nszer: May 15 2015, 02:53 AM

Mind to share the environment, employees turnover and benefits working with Sunway City Berhad?

guys...can sombdy mind to share workin environment in Sunway Quarry...??? i got phone call from them yestrday n will be attnd for intrview next week...

is it this BU is good as Sunway City???

i have not had the chance to work in sunway quarry before but i did work with lafarge aggregates during my internship and we shared a quarry with sunway quarries.

working in a quarry is tough work. it'll be long hours in the sun, and dealing with your workers who are not as educated as you are. learning to get them to listen to you will be a challenge seeing as you're younger than them yet you're the one dishing out the orders.

besides that, you're going to doing reporting on your production, ensuring safety is up to par, and other stuff like that.

i hope that gives you a rough idea of what you do in a quarry

Hello everyone,

I got an interview with the Sunway IT-Shared Services Centre for a senior position...that's what they advertised in the jobstreet.

Anyone work there before and mind sharing some experience?

Thank you

Hi, I am starting work tomorrow at Menara Sunway. Anyone know where got cheap parking space over there? Thank you.

This post has been edited by [kewl]boy: Mar 13 2012, 01:01 AM

Hi all bro & sis,

appreciated that can share anything (e.g. culture / working environment / employee benefits / average bonus & increment / etc) with me regarding Sunway Marketing.

I will have an interview session soon for Manager position in Finance Dept.....

TQ in advance for ur kind sharing.

Hey guys...received a call from SUNWAY regarding SMART prog..she asked me few questions and said another colleague would arrange an interview time with me, but after waiting 2 days still not a call from them. Does that mean that im not being shorlisted or thats the normal procedure where they would take a week for call u back?

did they say within a range of time? coz mine they specify within 2-3 weeks,and they reli reached back.

Hello Folks,


I got an interview at Sunway MSC IT BU next week for a Senior Account Manager post, can you guys tell me how it is like working in this BU? They are marketing Oracle & IBM softwares & some in-house developed solutions lah.


I checked from the net, the HQ is in SG called S&I System Pte Ltd under Temasek Holdings some more, sound like a good company to work with if I wanna establish myself into the ICT industry for long term.


Pls kasih advice nong nong (young sis & bros) & pee pee (old sis & bros), sekian!


Green

This was the business unit that I worked with before. Who will you be working under? PM me if you are interested in finding out more because it depends on which software you will be selling at the end of the day. That will determine how enjoyable your job will be

Hey guy

Newbie here...
What is the difference between Management Trainee in Sunway Shopping Malls and SMART program?

Any comment on MT in Sunway Shopping Mall?
Thanks.

Hi, Anyone working in Sunway Resort Hotel & Spa? Just curiuos of how's the management in it because I might having a high chance of working in their HR dept but at the same time got another offer from a SSC (not under Sunway Group) doing HR job also. Having a confusion of which to choose. Pleae advice. Thank you.

Hi lord shadow

I will attend an interview next week for the position Admin Exec. Could you advise me the salary range for the position. If you dont mind, please share some tips for the interview session. Besides interview, am i need to do any test?

Hi! I just got an interview offer for Executive – Information Technology Service Delivery Management in the Shared Service Centre. Anyone has any experience working in that business unit?

Juz got offer at sunway medical centre, executive level, anyone can tell a bit regarding the sunway medical?

Hey guys, I am about to graduate from UTM soon.

I am taking Mechanical Engineering and I received offer for short interview for SMART Programme in UTM.

Can any ppl share wat will they ask and wat should I prepare?

Appreciate it very much

Hey all,

Is there anyone working in Sunway Shared Services (SSC)? I got an interview for the position "Executive - Group IT" next week.

Any advice or tips on the interview and the working culture of the BU?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Just bumped into this old thread, any idea on Finance in SunCon? Forgot to ask the HR ppl in phone just now. Whats the job prospect for finance dept in those sunway group companies? Do i able to change to another BU or dept after the 2 years program? or depends on what they offer me?

Hey, wonder would it be tough to go through SMART program?
Because it sounded like high expectation will be place on the trainee. &, what will be the normal post that trainee get after graduating from the program?

You will have the best medical benefit if you work at SunMed. Besides that, that is nothing great about it.
Trust me, our turn over rate is high (this should give you a rough idea )

Which department you will be in? I have been working in SunMed for nearly 5 years, know almost everyone. Honestly, if you arent from medical background, I willl suggest you to work for a while, experience it yourself then transfer to other Sunway BU.

im with corp comm now. already 1 month ++ know, quite okay for now. 5 years is really a long time already..

Hey there, i got a call from Sunway offering me to join the SMART programme under Hospitality division. Anyone has any idea regarding the career prospect there? Thanks

is sunway quarry environment, benefit and pay will be ok?
other than that what else?

i currently been offer by sunway quarry as IT executive (programming and support)

pls advise.

Hi there. Would like to ask if anyone has ever applied for Sunway's ICAEW training programme before. If yes, what is the process of interview like and how soon would they get back to you if you do get shortlisted. Thanks!

Hello there,

From what I heard, working with Sunway have a lot of advantages, and I'm tempted to try. Howver I don't know which area/field should I apply. Basically I have a degree in Geology, and 2 years experience working in geotechnical engineering field. So any opinion?

Try apply to Sunway Geotechnics. They have quite a couple of jobs in Sunway, which is an ex-quary ground...should be challenging enough for you?!!

I work in Sunway, basically sunway geo does the piling work for most of sunway construction's project. E.g. mrt, pinnacle, velocity..

hye guys,
im in biomedical engg field about 1 year
i got the interview as biomed technician in Sunway Medical Centre, can u share the benefit by working there, how about the salary? what is the question will be asked to me soon? ty.