some early SVS owners who got them USA direct also will be shouting at their subwoofers?  

Boss, problem is that our taukeh ron got difficulty in getting the permit.

PB 13 and PC 13 apart from cylinder and box differences, is the sound quality the same? I read in some forum mention PB a few db higher output from PC, is this true?

Ronnt88 sldn't be too worried about as it is more about 'feel' than 'loudness'
Well said. That's what I am trying to tell to some would-be SVS owners. The cyclinder sub might look intimidating but a smaller footprint (cheaper too). The box sub commands big footprint but 'conservative' design (WAF a bit better than cyclinder). Then again, now only left 2 units of both. PB12-Plus sold out. Left 3 units of PC. The rest have to wait til November. I amnot sure about the exact schedule in November.

On another note, the AS-EQ1 also sold out. Heard that there is an outstanding order of 20+ units in Spore. Fuyooo...... Anyway, I am trying to get 3 units. One for myself, another for a forummer and extra 1 unit.

going through tough times now.. have to shave off the unnecessaries

Tis



bottomed out my Pb12+...

Hi..

I calibrated both my subs(pb12+ n an ol 10incher..) together for a 5db overhead but most of the time (its sufficient wif jus one sub on..), I ll jus on one sub to watch n its usually the bigger one - when de svs bottomed out at 6/7db below reference, I lowered de gain n on'd d other sub to compensate a bit.. still shiok - not svs shiok la but boooomm still la

Hi..

I calibrated both my subs(pb12+ n an ol 10incher..) together for a 5db overhead but most of the time (its sufficient wif jus one sub on..), I ll jus on one sub to watch n its usually the bigger one - when de svs bottomed out at 6/7db below reference, I lowered de gain n on'd d other sub to compensate a bit.. still shiok - not svs shiok la but boooomm still la

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Added on September 7, 2009, 3:36 pm

Which SVS do you have? Were you listening at very loud volume?

callmevil is using PC20-39, which is being replaced by PC12-Plus

if me, surely choose PB la.. 

unless you want roman pillars in your HT room..

Jz managed to get these hooked up

OOOoopppppsss, I did not post it b4?

It looks like this :



Done the calibration by using AS-EQ1 this morning, everything sounds so much better now. I am hearing more details. The AQ is very refined now. However, since it is near flat,  I feel a bit less bass too. No peak liao mah. Need some time to get used to it.

Here :



Still a small dip of -5dB at abt 40Hz range. Gtg for makan first

Yes, the kamikaze dip is at abt 40Hz right after the 'zero' take-off. Take a look back at my graph, aint that about similar? Room nodes unless yours is acoustically treated and correctly done.

Did your father own this place?

diick!

You so piss because you end up paying so much more but that ain't my fault.  Our silly gov't took your money.  I am simply doing a conversion to see how much it cost over there.

later bro anfieldude coming over ma.. u can come along also

Pls refer to www.htkaki.com as posting price here would get this thread being locked. Tq. Wouldn't want to defy the rules.

Ya, enjoying the PB12NSD. I was looking for another brand for quite sometime till I came across the SVS launch and grabbed the promo! Did spend RM500 more than my budget but I think worth it.

Shaking my plaster board ceiling and sliding glass door. Now more thing$$$ to fix! Warning - this is the first consequence of buying SVS or any low bass that you want to feel, not only hear!  It probably will not happen to normal 3 or 4 brick wall rooms with cement ceiling, but my hall got plaster ceiling board, front and back brick walls and left glass sliding door to the apartment balcony and right open space to the kitchen.

Just to share my experience, but my ears could be wrong.

A second problem was the sub did not sound "good" when it was placed at the position I wanted (which was suitable for PB not PC), near the kitchen side with sub facing into the room.  So did some sub crawling and found the best position opposite the original, near the glass sliding door with sub facing towards kitchen area. Just to confirm, I asked my son to tell which which bass was more room shaking, and he confirmed my discovery. To move the PB12NSD, I put a board under to push it. Took the board out when listening.

The best position for the sub is 45 degrees at the corner facing my seat; not 90 degrees to corner. I ran audyssey (Denon 1709) at the 3 different sub positions - at 90, the SW was -2.0, at 45, SW was -4.0. At original place (-4.0). Sub gain at 12'o clock. All this was done listening to double bass from Rod Stewart American song book CD and One Night at Albert Hall DVD. Double bass goes to 40Hz and when I got it right, the plucking sound and feel is just right, the the music just blended. In HT I used Mission Impossible 3, The Core and Incredibles. In HT, when it was "wrong" there no room shaking (-4.0 at original place), but when it was right (-4.0 at 45 degrees), can feel the vibrations. I think when it was "right" the FR is flatter, and not so much peaks and valleys.  The audyssey was done 3am, and listening test in the daytime. Am writing this after 4 day & night testing.   

At the 45 degree, you can imagine it sticking into the room. Now, I wish I got the PC12NSD instead. Max, you got 30 day exchange or not?    Anyway, I am now waiting for Max to let me test the ASEQ1 with the PB12NSD at the original position to see the room correction. MWTS PB12NSD and get PC12NSD after that. Or maybe save for ASEQ1.  Kena poison liao .

Cheers to all bass lover @ LYN.

This unit was discussed at great length with Ron and ar188 during our lunch.

It is more expensive and it needs to be installed by Audyssey approved pro installer. Basically, it was taken off from AS-EQ1 design.