wow...nice st

how much is 1?

i wanna get a few more also

should have met u earlier...haizzz

where r u from bro ? if Malaysia....how do u manage to bring back them into malaysia ?

bought in bangkok wor... 1 is around 900 - 1200 baht ( rm 90 - 120)

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Added on November 24, 2008, 9:22 pmi'm from everywhere , not planning to bring back yet, but my bigger pair was smuggled into thai soil from mas, cos last time dunno thailand got sell, so many in chatuchak somemore. planning to take 1 pair of small one for a flight to somewhere else. hope that i can get thru

This post has been edited by xgambler: Nov 24 2008, 09:22 PM

that's so cheap

going to bangkok again?

then next time can tumpang d

wanna get at least 4 more

bt i wonder how to get through....train possible or not?

This post has been edited by leejinwee28: Nov 24 2008, 09:27 PM

leaving bangkok in a few days time, but not going back to malaysia....yet. u can get in malaysia , why u wanna risk leh? malaysia sudah ada law wor, dun play play oh. at first i wanna buy from mas to thai but sked o, u pulak terbalik wanna get from thai

wahaha3,so cute... and quiet cheap too..wanna go to buy there also lah,but worry if get caught..ho3 it all about law,but must obey it for the sake of conservation..harap2 la..but in my conservation biology class,it did mention that serious pet lovers or breeders also contribute to the conservation biology..but not many can become serious pet lovers,just wanna play2 with the pets. hope everyone in TTT not like that lah..

star tortoise in thailand should be different, color, genes and origin

some might be wild caught also

i wanna keep some good ones as breeding stock later

i'm planning to become a good breeder and research officer later

But this kind of law doesnt help them in any way! So do you think the law is a correct by neglecting the good things the serious pet lover/breeder has done so far ?

yes, i admit,the law seems not holistic especially in Malaysia,we are too far behind.The law about TTT usually implemented by the CITES,not wildlife department and Malaysia as a members of CITES must obey it. but they do so just to reduce wildlife trade. even based on fact,moreless 20% only the livestock still alive when reach the destination. and sometimes those animal reach the end of their life in stupid petshop and stupid people. i oledi talk about it with some wildlife officer during my fieldwork because i think the law was not fair to serious breeder like u all,but he said that he cannot do anything because it involve top people(some of them didnt know nothing about wildlife,just bisnes).. maybe one of us must be one of a policy maker,kwah3.

Got 2 RES..

Feel like having a sulcata but was wondering izzit CITES I or CITES II now?

Its CITES II for now and if bought from the right place , the receipt issued by that place should enable you to apply for a license to keep !!

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Added on November 25, 2008, 1:56 pmEven those local sp listed with CITES , they usually wont issue license ( individual hobbist like you and me ) too !!!

Base on what fact ?? I thought all underground ( how to estimate facts / numbers if cant be seen ) !! Most of these facts are made up by those people / body out to get conservation funds !!

From what I know the high death rate in transit were due to packing method ( efficient yet best to avoid dection by authorities ) !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Nov 25 2008, 01:57 PM

cites = full of bollocks

law = same as above, theoriticaly n practicaly f**ked up

ha3,i know this is the expecting outcome here .i know it because im also rear pet and fight like this with that wildlife officer, . so chill out guys..just sharing what i know here..if u think that were trash,just throw it away,aha3.

This post has been edited by slackerz: Nov 25 2008, 10:43 PM

Any idea where to get the license if the receipt is valid = )
Please enlight me.. ahh~

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4187&sec=nation

Ain't that one big specimen? btw, they refer the soft shelled as a tortoise.. is tat right?

Wah biggy biggy~
I dont believe that is tortoise..

Let the expert to determine wat sp is that

Totally wrong!

Even those basic things they got mixed up what more the species name!

ha3..it same like some people always said "star turtle".

Its 41kg mann..roughly how old or long would it take to reach that size?

btw, any1 can determine the species just by the pic?

Most likely Asian Softshell Turtle @ Amyda cartilaginea But I doubt that specimen is even close to 30 kg let alone 41 kg !!!

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Major haul: ASP Mohamad Pouzi (second from right) looking at the tortoise which was seized during the raid in Bukit Pasir on Tuesday night.



This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Nov 28 2008, 06:41 AM