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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V4, Armored reptiles please enter here :p

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rafiqos
post Nov 6 2008, 01:12 PM

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He's looking for potential victims to fall into his pink trap, Uzairi. Poor Leslie.
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post Nov 6 2008, 01:46 PM

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anyone know where can i get flyriver turtle? ive seen the specimen at xian leng shah alam but its juz for display.....
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post Nov 6 2008, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 5 2008, 11:30 PM)
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LOL...i've been working on the fund raising for 6 years...if getting sponsors was an easy stuff...we wouldnt have put so many poor strays to sleep...is not just about getting a premise you know...you will also have to take the area concerned into account...if that area is a residential area...you think the city council will let us to establish our premise there? Penangites are stingy...that includes me as well...
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if thats the case it was really hard for you guys out there.
whats your concept anyway? smile.gif

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post Nov 6 2008, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Nov 6 2008, 01:12 PM)
He's looking for potential victims to fall into his pink trap, Uzairi. Poor Leslie.
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leslie has a trap cheers.gif

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anyone know where can i get flyriver turtle?


during the launch of TRAFFIC's An Identification Guide to the Tortoises and Freshwater Turtles of Brunei Darussalam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Singapore and Timor Leste earlier this year, fly river turtle is one of those species heavily emphasized.

and since they fall under CITES since 2005, never ever had any quota allocated and now have bullseyes on their nose, it is now quite risky to have them on sale openly.

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Nov 6 2008, 07:11 PM
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post Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 5 2008, 12:50 PM)
2008/11/04
10,000 smuggled turtle eggs seized
BERNAMA

SANDAKAN: The marine police have cracked their biggest case of turtle egg smuggling this year, with the seizure of some 10,000 eggs from the Philippines.
Four smugglers were unloading the eggs, worth about RM28,000, from a speedboat in the Kampung Forest beach area on Sunday night when a team of policemen arrived at the scene at 8.15pm.

On seeing the policemen, the smugglers panicked and escaped in the boat, leaving 20 sacks of eggs on the beach.

Acting Sandakan marine police chief ASP Muhammad Sallam Spawi described the seizure as the biggest this year.

He said marine police had increased operations to eradicate smuggling of the eggs and prevent its illegal sale in the district.
"Initial investigations have revealed that a syndicate obtained the eggs from several islands in the Philippines. While the syndicate is masterminded by foreigners, the locals sell the eggs in Bandar Sandakan for as much as RM2.80 per piece."

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Just an update

They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!

Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!

LOL What are they thinking !! A remark from my friend !!!
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
Just an update

They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!

Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about  how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!

LOL What are they thinking !! A remark from my friend !!!
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Samperth, u from Sabah mah, just go and dot-com dot-my with them, maybe u can get some eh? smile.gif

BTW, what torts are they? Didnt really mention whether they were ST, leopards etc...

Cheers! smile.gif
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post Nov 6 2008, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Nov 6 2008, 08:11 PM)
Samperth, u from Sabah mah, just go and dot-com dot-my with them, maybe u can get some eh? smile.gif

BTW, what torts are they? Didnt really mention whether they were ST, leopards etc...

Cheers!  smile.gif
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Sea turtle eggs !!

No need to dot-com dot-my with them also can get !! And cheaper too !!
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post Nov 6 2008, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!
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Will that ever work Samperth?
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post Nov 6 2008, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Nov 6 2008, 07:11 PM)
BTW, what torts are they? Didnt really mention whether they were ST, leopards etc...
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duh... what are the odds of 10,000 star tortoise eggs smuggled out of philippines and sold in sandakan for rm2.80 each doh.gif

QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about  how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!
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they might as well mention those few unicorns that came out of those egg laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Nov 6 2008, 09:14 PM)
Will that ever work Samperth?
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Reptiles' eggs dont store well !! Especially with rough handling and days since being laid !!

The odds of hatching any from those 10k eggs is almost none !!

But that will be the best way to cover their " tracks / sales "
Since buried eggs can disappear ie dug up by predators .......etc or " nest site " cannot be found
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Logically put. Thanks for that.
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post Nov 7 2008, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 6 2008, 08:35 PM)
duh... what are the odds of 10,000 star tortoise eggs smuggled out of philippines and sold in sandakan for rm2.80 each  doh.gif
they might as well mention those few unicorns that came out of those egg  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif not to mention some dragons and phoenixes as well eh...

Just wondering why you all are so prejudice against the Malaysian enforcement officers




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post Nov 7 2008, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Nov 6 2008, 01:12 PM)
He's looking for potential victims to fall into his pink trap, Uzairi. Poor Leslie.
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doh.gif dammit!

QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 6 2008, 04:01 PM)
leslie has a trap cheers.gif
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
Just an update

They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!

Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about  how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!

LOL What are they thinking !! A remark from my friend !!!
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LOL, trying to be a good samaritan by telling ppl things like that ? doh.gif

QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 7 2008, 12:27 AM)
laugh.gif    not to mention some dragons and phoenixes as well eh...

Just wondering why you all are so prejudice against the Malaysian enforcement officers
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Why do you think we treat them like that ?
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post Nov 7 2008, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Nov 7 2008, 12:44 AM)
doh.gif dammit!
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LOL, trying to be a good samaritan by telling ppl things like that ?  doh.gif
Why do you think we treat them like that ?
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well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 7 2008, 12:30 PM)
well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?
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Did their job as in the Sabah Turtle eggs case ??

Lets do some maths !!

Assume 10000 eggs sold for RM 2 ( cheaper price to speed sale ) a pc easily comes to RM 20 000 !!

How much could those Four smugglers offer in term of bribe ?? RM 100 , 200 , 500 or even 1000 !!
Now compare that !!

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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 7 2008, 11:30 AM)
well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?
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post Nov 7 2008, 07:12 PM

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hey has anyone seen the taiwanese turtles on sale at toby's?

is the price displayed reasonable?
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post Nov 7 2008, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(liette` @ Nov 7 2008, 08:12 PM)
hey has anyone seen the taiwanese turtles on sale at toby's?

is the price displayed reasonable?
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taiwanese turtles ??
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post Nov 7 2008, 08:29 PM

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those Ocadia sinensis hatchling there are labelled as 'Taiwanese Turtle'... sold at RM40 each.

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Just wondering why you all are so prejudice against the Malaysian enforcement officers

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well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?


if you had joined this community just one year earlier, you'd know better laugh.gif

we do not judge solely on one particular case. just look at the way they handle their confiscated and 'rescued' animals...

ever heard the story about the baby elephant that broke its feet and suffered under those irresponsible caretakers? ever read the news of snakes being sold by officers a day after it had been confiscated? ever check on the possibilities of why the whole colony of sumatran rhinos under their care perished? ever wondered why orchid collectors in Cameron got fined for collecting orchids in illegal logging areas while those that did the illegal logging had not been implicated at all?

i could go on rambling all night long.. so, you judge yourself smile.gif

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post Nov 7 2008, 09:45 PM

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Ocadia Sinesis RM40 EACH? hatchling?? O.o mine rm6

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