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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V4, Armored reptiles please enter here :p

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SAMPERTH
post Mar 30 2009, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(danny94 @ Mar 30 2009, 01:19 PM)
Yea! I'm getting a Star in 3 weeks.

what light should i give it?
and whr to buy?
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Nartural sunlight will be free and best !!
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post Mar 30 2009, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(danny94 @ Mar 30 2009, 04:49 PM)
1 day hw long?

or 1 week how many times and how long
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I and my friend usually tell ppl about 1-2 hr per week and you adjust how long per day !! We usually do it in the mid-morning and bring them in before 12 pm !! Or after 3 pm and in before sunset !!

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post Apr 1 2009, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(ariesto @ Apr 1 2009, 12:25 PM)
WTH, the price is sky high & i don't feel safe buying those ST from garage sale.
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Some of those price maybe due to stablised ex-pet !! If new imports , even if v v cheap I also not interested !! LOL after buying a few you will understand why !!
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post Apr 1 2009, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(ariesto @ Apr 1 2009, 04:19 PM)
What is wrong? mind to share?
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QUOTE(Cherlyn @ Apr 1 2009, 04:24 PM)
Agree...most of those hatchlings cant even make it til 3 inch..
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Many too stress to recover (importation stress and small size ) Even some 3 inch may not make it !!

As during importation many are tape bound(stressful) , no food or water given and sometimes expose to extreme temp ...etc

If CB locally will be best or ex-pet (those too weak have die off already ) will make better stronger pets !!
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post Apr 2 2009, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(slackerz @ Apr 2 2009, 01:09 PM)
guys,can share how u feed ur tortoise hay?means like timothy hay..do u soak it in water first,or just give it straight away?
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I remember someone mention before he blend in blender before feeding ...etc

As for myself I only give to bigger animal say over 6 inch and also only to desert sp like Leopard , Sulcata ...etc


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post Apr 2 2009, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(slackerz @ Apr 2 2009, 04:17 PM)
blend it?ok..can i give it straight away?or like rabbit,i mean put it in some basket at side,then they will pull it one by one when they need it?btw,thanks SAM.
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When I feed them I just scatter them around the floor and they will seek out or dine when it pleases them !! And any excess taken out after say 3 days but usually none to take out !!
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post Apr 3 2009, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(slackerz @ Apr 2 2009, 07:07 PM)
ok..good to hear that..i ask because i have one tortoise which really greed,she duwan the others eat the food..when i put the vege in their enclosure,she go and lay on the food..and worst when she pee on the food,maybe she said to her frens
"haa,u see,dirty already..cannot eat,cannot eat..now u all stay away from me,i wan to eat the vege mix my own pee" LOL.. laugh.gif
maybe put it scattered can avoid her doing something like that..thanks bro.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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If they pee or dampen the hay , some shroom may grow from there (after a few days )and if eaten may make them v v high / death !!! LOL

*Hay is one of the ingredient to make those "space bag" for growing oyster mushroom /Cendawan Tiram Kerabu !!

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So I remove all hay from the enclosure after a few days !! Even vegie stalk unless they dry up in a day or two !!

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post Apr 3 2009, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(-storm- @ Apr 3 2009, 08:54 PM)
Hi guys i got two red sliders and i was wondering about the dettol treatment will it harm the turtle?
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" the dettol treatment " How you go about that ??
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post Apr 3 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(-storm- @ Apr 3 2009, 11:30 PM)
The front page got info on treating infection with dettol one...
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QUOTE(TTT Quick Guide 07 - Carapace problems counter measure:
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This is what you can do if there's fungus infection on the carapace and if there's some rotting going on on the carapace.

Firstly u need to dry dock them for at least half the day. Then u can use Dettol/Iodine (Bethadine) to clean the infected area. Let the Dettol/Iodine(Bethadine) dry and then put some diluted Hydrogen Peroxide inside a basin and put the turtle inside it for 30 minutes. Then take it out and rinse it with a clean water. Continue to drydock the turtle for 1/2 day. Continue doing this everyday fot the week and see how it goes. The infected place should heal slowly depending on the severeness of the problem. Sea Cucumber Oil (Minyak Gamat) can also be used at the infected place. Let them dry and continue dry docking them. Don't put them inside the water back since the oil would mixed with the water and can endanger the turtles itself.
Just on the infected area ie carapace no harm done rite ?? Just like in human if on wound why not ??
If ingested both us human and chelonia can come to harm !!
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post Apr 13 2009, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(kaseinogen @ Apr 13 2009, 04:13 AM)
hi all...just posting my new TTT..all i buy from ikano pet safari..the newest one is western painted turtles..emm just wanna ask one question..is it normal for alligator snaping turtle to fast for about 1 week?bcause my ally did not eat about 1 week alredi...i have tried to give hive variety type of food,but still didnot want to eat...huhuhuhu icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Ally dont fast when smaller !! Only sick , gravid F or cold weather Ally fast for a week or more !! Yours is still a baby less than 3 inch shell length ?? It look so thin (First 2 pic same animal right ??)

How you keep it ?? - Temp ? water condition ....

But at that size v v hard to cure if sick especially if it is not eating !! BTW what have you offered as food ??- suitable size guppy is best !!


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QUOTE(-storm- @ Apr 13 2009, 01:12 AM)
Guys my res has an ear abscess how to treat it myself? Or is it really need to see a vet? How much would that cause? I have googled around and most of the sites are from the states all their answers are to see a vet which is not really helpful. I would prefer to treat it myself since seeing a vet cost a bomb consultation fee cost 35 per visit for my dog i dono bout turtles
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Not hard , just treat it as a large pimple !! But make a cut first before squeeze !!! ( sterile penknife , hand ...... a must )

One of the simpliest operation you can do on your pet turtle !!!

Cure or seen too many of this being done on RES !!!! (We call this RES with MP3 ) LOL

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post Apr 17 2009, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Gbariele @ Apr 17 2009, 12:26 PM)
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they fight...
how they breed since they will fight if having both of them to gether?
if turtle breed must have two turtle 1 male 1 female right?or the female one will pregnant by her own self?
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- At 3 inch how do you know for sure you have a 1.1 pair

- For them to live togather peacefully you need a lot larger space than just a 2 ft tank !! (a moving tail do look like big worm or sort feeder )

- For one to meet another of the same specie is quite hard especially for this specie as they are from a large river system !!


But up to you if you wanna go ahead and put 2 pc of 3 incher ally in a 2 ft tank and end up with shorten tail or missing digits or worse of all punctured skull !! We as in other keeper wont be losing anything except for a few Ouch !!!!!!
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post Apr 19 2009, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(chephren @ Apr 19 2009, 05:37 PM)
hello everyone

im new here..i just wanna ask if any one u guys knows on how to determine RES's gender. some one told me that it could tell by looking at it's shell, a darker green is female while a light green is male.is it true??
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False !!

They can only be sexed correctly after 4 inch and above !!

But if from the same batch and all healthy and all Female grow faster and max out larger 12 inch or more !!

Adult Male are smaller at 6 - 9 inch max , longer tail and longer front fingernails !!!


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QUOTE(EuJax @ Apr 19 2009, 02:53 AM)
Hi guys...been away for quite a while and WOW...its V4 now wink.gif time flies and things change fast. Congrats anyway, its good to see more and more turtle lovers.

Uzairi, Samperth and Camillenoir...how u guys doing? Still turtle fever huh wink.gif I wish i have more time for this passion....unfortunately life had been hard on me since last year and sad to say i lost a few of my turtles last year...painful of course.

Anyway saw some Diamond Back Terrapin and Matamata lately....they are such a beauty...not forgetting those Beals 4 Eyes...truely masterpiece of nature. Hope you guys who have the time manage to add them to your collection. Cheers all.
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Hello welcome back and hows life !!

My friend say hello !! He still collecting / increasing his colony of chelonia as ever !!

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post Apr 20 2009, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(EuJax @ Apr 19 2009, 09:37 PM)
Hi Slackerz, i am no senior at all. Just happen to have come in here earlier, thats it. So what are you raring now?

Hi Sam, good to hear from you and friend heheh so whats the colony like now?
Regards
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As for me I just starting !! My friend's colony uncountable(I think) !!! I hve not seen all as all spread out for reason you should know / understand !!
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QUOTE(firezy @ Apr 20 2009, 05:35 PM)
i saw 3 small star about 2 inches and 1 about 3+ inches.

claimed by pet shop is burmese star.

but how am i going to know it is not indian star?

btw im from JB... anyone can tell me where to find radiated bcos that is the one i'm looking at.

thanks.
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Whats the price like ?? If below RM 600 / pc then 100% cant be Burmese !!

Best to post pic so we can identify positively !!

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post Apr 21 2009, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(ee7han @ Apr 21 2009, 03:14 AM)
Hi guys.
Wondering whether Indian Star Tortoise shed its skin from time to time?
since its a dry type tortoise, does the owner need to "bath" the tortoise?
e.g. clean the shell, and under the shell? i saw pet stores selling the "shell polish".
recommend to be used?

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oh and do they drink? like.. put a small dish with water to let them drink??  rolleyes.gif
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Pls refer back to first page of this thread have the following !!

Star Tortoise:
http://www.chelonia.org/articles/Geleganscare.htm
http://www.tortoisetrust.org/care/celegans.html
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If in doubt after reading ask here !!
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post Apr 21 2009, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(firezy @ Apr 21 2009, 11:33 AM)
samperth,

the aunty dont let me snapshot photo. the condition of that 4 little buggers a bit off due to the small enclosure.

she quoted rm200 for the 3 small buggers around 2inches.

RM400 for the bigger bugger about 3+ inches.
i hope tort lover can let me know where in JB can get real burmese star or radiated.

thanks.
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If only Rm 200 for 2 incher than 100% cant be Burmese as they(Real Burmese) retail of Rm 1200 and up for 2 incher !!


All the best in your hunt for Burmese and Radiated !!


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QUOTE(Gbariele @ Apr 21 2009, 02:18 PM)
i see...
looks like i got to buy a 4 feet tank and put something in da middle to separate two da aligator snapper...
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If 4 ft you can safely put them togather for say 2 years but do add some log or larger stone to act as visual barriers !!

BTW you 100 % sure yours is Alligator snapper as common snapper are less compatible if more than 1 kept !!
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post Apr 23 2009, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(firezy @ Apr 23 2009, 12:09 PM)
samperth,

i will be appreciate if you can tell me how to differentiate Burmese vs Indian Star.

best if you can post these 2 side by side and teach us how to spot the diff.

thanks.
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Do a search and you should be able to find them as have being dicused before with pic too !!!
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post Apr 24 2009, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(yana_adell @ Apr 24 2009, 03:06 PM)
i already have 3 cute tortise..,about 6 month years old.
What i'm going to do so they can breed later..??
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Most important of all make sure at least one of the opposite sex !! But most chelonia not sexable till older !!
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post Apr 25 2009, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gbariele @ Apr 21 2009, 02:18 PM)
i see...
looks like i got to buy a 4 feet tank and put something in da middle to separate two da aligator snapper...
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Apr 21 2009, 02:40 PM)
If 4 ft you can safely put them togather for say 2 years but do add some log or larger stone to act as visual barriers !!

BTW you 100 % sure yours is Alligator snapper as common snapper are less compatible if more than 1 kept !!
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Just to add a pic to show I no bullshiting - about putting them togather without missing parts !!

The tail still original birth length !!






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