@ bai1101 & Jcsy

70'c is something over man. My black pearl even on OC 25%, the temp will never hot 55'c on full load. Idle is around 404-45'c (depend on weather), usually is 42-43'c.

Cooled with TT Big thphoon thou.. Temp control is on user hand, ofcause take environment, cable management and thermal contact and lastly the cooler used.

Added you in the list.Welcome to old school club. Any plan to upgrade your willy to northwood or prescott proc ?

Got plan to upgrade but no $$.....

stock coolers are about 70+

last time i did research b4 i bought my processor , it is already like that temperature

of course, u can add ur own coolers to reduce it to 50- 60

but mine is stock

btw, my system has ZERO fans working except the CPU & PSU ... hehe abit hot la

This post has been edited by Jcsy: Nov 14 2008, 01:02 PM

Hahah... But then, i never used stock cooler as i know the performance is sucky. Even my current CD rigs the stocker cooler still sit still in the retail box.

yup agreed but I was always kind of trust STOCK stuff.

my system no fan coz the fan abit rosak , the power flickers up and down, then sometimes my hard disk (which is sharing that molex connector) will dissapear coz of the electric flicker

so, i disconnected it

now system quite hot la, but running a while without fans so i guess its ok

I think P4 proc you can get at price below RM120 right? Perhaps cheaper.

yeah, anything above that is sort of overpriced already.

add me to the list also

P4 3.06Ggz Northwood | Asus P4V8X-X | 3 * 512mb Corsair DDR400 | Sapphire HD 2600XT 256MB GDDR3

I tot P4 3.0Ghz Northwood proc RM150++...
Beginner sell it at Rm188 P4 3.06Ghz HT Northwood...

BTW, i heard that prescott is hotter than northwood?? Is is true?
And which 1 of this is the most overclockable??




This post has been edited by Exa_Bytez: Nov 14 2008, 05:28 PM

@Exa_Bytez

For sure, Prescott is hotter then Northwood. Clock to clock, there is no diff between Prescott & Northwood. In same benchies Northwood is leading. But in OC term, Prescott clock better and it shine on high FSB.

But I tot when overclock Prescott, it will hot faster than Northwood coz Prescott initial temperature is hotter than Northwood....?

I have 3.06 Northwood, and my housemate has 3.0 Prescott.
I mainly hardcore game and u all knw that prescott runs hot...we all know that.
would I see any real difference if I used the Northwood instead ?The only difference is the cache......
I wanna stick the Northwood in to lower my temps...
FYI,prescott has a larger cache, but it also has a deeper execution pipeline...
Prescotts pipeline has 31 stages while Northwood's has got 20 only. A 31 stage pipeline can be very difficult to stoke...
even with a large cache...
Prescott may have double the L2 cache,, but keep in mind that the length of the pipelines is long on the prescott, which mean it takes longer to perform the same instructions as northwood...
also, a northwood at the same clock speed is faster than a prescott because it wolud be harder for the prescott to keep those pipelines full...
so prescott should have the extra cache in order to keep those pipelines busy.
At 3.0/512/800 and 3.0/1M/800, the northwood will come out on top in nearly all cases...

@Lord_sepulchrave

Yea. Agreed with ur statement. Clock to clock without OC, Northwood is leading. But in OC preference, Prescott is shine when it hit high FSB, and it can clock better/further. Northwood is build with 130nm chip where i believe that is the part that limiting the OC ability.

if anyone's interested and can solve the money transfer problem, i am going to let go of my old parts, which mainly comprises of AGP cards and DDR RAM...

well, cache difference as well as FSB are things that you might want to consider

if it doesnt affect u more than the temperature, then go Northwood

Added you in the list,welcome to the old school club.

bought seagate 7200.11 500gb hdd for my old P4 rig a while ago

for stock, sure la northy is better....until the prescott's get o/ced...of course, the prescott needs some super cooling....that's where the pressie overtakes the northy....in the o/c range....

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Added on November 15, 2008, 9:53 pmyup...fylon's right....the pressie thrives on o/c....but conventional cooling is the problem here...

This post has been edited by ravewar: Nov 15 2008, 09:53 PM

conventional cooling is just for normal day to day usage

cleaning is of course needed , once in a while...

im not going 2 overclock my prescott , dun think its much worth it nowadays plus, the heat is something i can bear