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 All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks

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post Oct 10 2010, 11:15 PM

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Actually, there is lots of fake racket in the market. And, sometimes, the fake products is so real, until really hard to spot. A good way to avoid is get from reputable seller. Anyway, since you intend to get yonex, as a guide, you can go to their website, they have a page to teach people how to spot a fake yonex.

Off topic bit, sometimes, I wonder what is the real of the racket production cost hmm.gif . Reason, those branded, high end rackets, like yonex, li-ning, victors really expensive. Ok, they claimed that these rackets have the latest technology, etc, etc. Then, you can also get "similar" racket, such as Apacs, Fleets, etc at even 1/3 of the price. And, these brands, I would say in the market for quite sometimes, they even claim that they have same technology, eg nanoscience, slim shaft, etc for their racket too. So, I guess these new technolgy is not propriety to the high end branded racket, but available to all, if not, sure, yonex, etc will sue them. In fact, when I was even told, these "second tier" brand of clone racket to the high end racket is about 70% to 80% in term of quality and feel of the top end racket they cloned. But, disclaimer, I personally not so lucky got chance to try out these real high end racket myself, so, I could not vouched for the statement by those racket seller.

Therefore, from the above view, I would say that the reason why these branded racket so expensive is that we just paying for their brand, for their new technolgy (of which none propriety) and sponsorship to those world players, not because the production cost.

What you all think? unsure.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(riz50 @ Oct 10 2010, 11:04 PM)
price is ok.
cab-21 quite stiff rite?
better get more flexible racket..
unless u got strong arm already smile.gif
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i am starting to play from scratch. i did try to check out this racket, head heavy abit. thinking choosing this racket as its made in jap.
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post Oct 11 2010, 01:17 AM

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not easy to handle this one imo. mybe because its oval head but u can try.
if u mostly play single cab21 is already good for you..

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post Oct 11 2010, 09:13 AM

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I just got myself a Yonex AT70 MG. It's powerful but there seems to be no control at all. Maybe I still need time to get used to it. I think that I still prefer my Isometric 80 light but a recently noticed that there is a large crack on the head so I'll be left with the 70MG.

I am still considering getting another racket in a months time or so. The 70MG is just too difficult to use IMO because of the lack of control. Drop shots are terrible.

Since I picked it up solely to get more power behind the shuttle I think I cant complain much about it. Some of you guys recommended the Tantrum 200. Any other models to consider?
melvin93
post Oct 11 2010, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Oct 11 2010, 09:13 AM)
I just got myself a Yonex AT70 MG. It's powerful but there seems to be no control at all. Maybe I still need time to get used to it. I think that I still prefer my Isometric 80 light but a recently noticed that there is a large crack on the head so I'll be left with the 70MG.

I am still considering getting another racket in a months time or so. The 70MG is just too difficult to use IMO because of the lack of control. Drop shots are terrible.

Since I picked it up solely to get more power behind the shuttle I think I cant complain much about it. Some of you guys recommended the Tantrum 200. Any other models to consider?
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well i just got an apacs Power Concept 700, an Armotec 700 clone, feels nice, with pro ace lethal 0.66 strung at 27lbs (free string sweat.gif )


will post a short review here later on
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post Oct 11 2010, 09:25 AM

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Is it head heavy? The 70MG is and it's slow IMO. I'm used to head light rackets. But are there any head light and powerful rackets out there?
melvin93
post Oct 11 2010, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Oct 11 2010, 09:25 AM)
Is it head heavy? The 70MG is and it's slow IMO. I'm used to head light rackets. But are there any head light and powerful rackets out there?
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lethal light? haha

anyway about the powerconcept 700, its SLIGHTLY head heavy, with good power for a 4U
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post Oct 11 2010, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(wtfoo1 @ Oct 10 2010, 11:15 PM)
Actually, there is lots of fake racket in the market. And, sometimes, the fake products is so real, until really hard to spot. A good way to avoid is get from reputable seller. Anyway, since you intend to get yonex, as a guide, you can go to their website, they have a page to teach people how to spot a fake yonex.

Off topic bit, sometimes, I wonder what is the real of the racket production cost  hmm.gif . Reason, those branded, high end rackets, like yonex, li-ning, victors really expensive. Ok, they claimed that these rackets have the latest technology, etc, etc. Then, you can also get "similar" racket, such as Apacs, Fleets, etc at even 1/3 of the price. And, these brands, I would say in the market for quite sometimes, they even claim that they have same technology, eg nanoscience, slim shaft, etc for their racket too. So, I guess these new technolgy is not propriety to the high end branded racket, but available to all, if not, sure, yonex, etc will sue them. In fact, when I was even told, these "second tier" brand of clone racket to the high end racket is about 70% to 80% in term of quality and feel of the top end racket they cloned. But, disclaimer, I personally not so lucky got chance to try out these real high end racket myself, so, I could not vouched for the statement by those racket seller.

Therefore, from the above view, I would say that the reason why these branded racket so expensive is that we just paying for their brand, for their new technolgy (of which none propriety) and sponsorship to those world players, not because the production cost.

What you all think?  unsure.gif
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+1 bro..it's just like the top brands in the world..yes they have superior quality but they are also overpriced

QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Oct 11 2010, 12:30 AM)
i am starting to play from scratch. i did try to check out this racket, head heavy abit. thinking choosing this racket as its made in jap.
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then i suggest u NOT getting this racket.
consider some clones from Apacs. they're much cheaper and easier to play with

QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Oct 11 2010, 09:13 AM)
I just got myself a Yonex AT70 MG. It's powerful but there seems to be no control at all. Maybe I still need time to get used to it. I think that I still prefer my Isometric 80 light but a recently noticed that there is a large crack on the head so I'll be left with the 70MG.

I am still considering getting another racket in a months time or so. The 70MG is just too difficult to use IMO because of the lack of control. Drop shots are terrible.

Since I picked it up solely to get more power behind the shuttle I think I cant complain much about it. Some of you guys recommended the Tantrum 200. Any other models to consider?
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isn't it too early to make a conclusion?
spend more time and adapt to it then u will notice the improvements
also pay more attention to your techniques..they play a very crucial part

QUOTE(melvin93 @ Oct 11 2010, 09:22 AM)
well i just got an apacs Power Concept 700, an Armotec 700 clone, feels nice, with pro ace lethal 0.66 strung at 27lbs (free string  sweat.gif )
will post a short review here later on
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i've held one PowerConcept model before..forgot which
the paint job looks very low quality..it feels as if i can peel it off with my fingernails >.<
didnt try playing with it since it's not mine and it doesnt attract me tongue.gif


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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Oct 11 2010, 09:25 AM)
Is it head heavy? The 70MG is and it's slow IMO. I'm used to head light rackets. But are there any head light and powerful rackets out there?
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NN9900 rclxms.gif

QUOTE(melvin93 @ Oct 11 2010, 09:55 AM)
lethal light? haha

anyway about the powerconcept 700, its SLIGHTLY head heavy, with good power for a 4U
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where did u get the info that lethal light is headlight?

This post has been edited by ziggy87: Oct 11 2010, 10:13 AM
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post Oct 11 2010, 10:23 AM

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nah lethal light is head heavy , but he wants fast maneuvering and powerful characteristics, so i suggested the lethal light
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post Oct 11 2010, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Oct 11 2010, 09:58 AM)
isn't it too early to make a conclusion?
spend more time and adapt to it then u will notice the improvements
also pay more attention to your techniques..they play a very crucial part
You're right, but its just some initial thoughts. I compared it to some older rackets I used and the older ones are better in most areas, especially control. I wanted a racket that could give me more power but i didnt know that with the 70MG, I will be losing so much control. I'll definitely continue using it because of the power advantage (backhand clears are flawless IMO). But overall, it's difficult to use. I might have to adjust my technique for this racket.

But seeing that my Iso 80 Light is about to "die". I am considering getting another racket and let my 70MG be my backup later. In short, I feel that the 70MG can't replace my Iso 80 so I'm still looking around for options.

N9900? Haven't tried that yet. The graphics are quite ugly IMO. tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(melvin93 @ Oct 11 2010, 10:23 AM)
nah lethal light is head heavy , but he wants fast maneuvering  and powerful characteristics, so i suggested the lethal light
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i feel very imbalance even by holding it..lolz
but it's powerful due to the head heavy

QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Oct 11 2010, 12:10 PM)
You're right, but its just some initial thoughts. I compared it to some older rackets I used and the older ones are better in most areas, especially control. I wanted a racket that could give me more power but i didnt know that with the 70MG, I will be losing so much control. I'll definitely continue using it because of the power advantage (backhand clears are flawless IMO). But overall, it's difficult to use. I might have to adjust my technique for this racket.

But seeing that my Iso 80 Light is about to "die". I am considering getting another racket and let my 70MG be my backup later. In short, I feel that the 70MG can't replace my Iso 80 so I'm still looking around for options.

N9900? Haven't tried that yet. The graphics are quite ugly IMO.  tongue.gif
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to some it's gorgeous tongue.gif
same case goes to ArcZ which i think is ugly hahahha

i still dig rackets with chrome finish more biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Oct 11 2010, 12:30 PM)
i feel very imbalance even by holding it..lolz
but it's powerful due to the head heavy
to some it's gorgeous tongue.gif
same case goes to ArcZ which i think is ugly hahahha

i still dig rackets with chrome finish more biggrin.gif
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I really like the AT graphics. it's really nice.

Btw, I read on the YY website that the Nanospeeds are head light, the armortecs are head heavy but nothing about the arcsabers. Are those headlight or heavy or balanced?
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post Oct 11 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Oct 11 2010, 12:42 PM)
I really like the AT graphics. it's really nice.

Btw, I read on the YY website that the Nanospeeds are head light, the armortecs are head heavy but nothing about the arcsabers. Are those headlight or heavy or balanced?
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balanced with slight head heavy
voltric is the next gen of armotec's..as rumored
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:02 PM

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TANTRUM 200!!! Come on brader!!! Get it... haha
Go for 25lbs tension bg66. if u like to play control game less smashing, then go for 28lbs! muahaha... come on... get tantrum 200. dont need think so much d, coz its one solid racket. haha... many times i quite fruss coz miss some shots or didnt get wat i wanted,
i seriously did bang the racket on the floor, sometimes some clashes with my doublemate. surprisingly... the paint didnt chip off. muahahahaha...
awesome!
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Oct 11 2010, 03:02 PM)
TANTRUM 200!!! Come on brader!!! Get it... haha
Go for 25lbs tension bg66. if u like to play control game less smashing, then go for 28lbs! muahaha... come on... get tantrum 200. dont need think so much d, coz its one solid racket. haha... many times i quite fruss coz miss some shots or didnt get wat i wanted,
i seriously did bang the racket on the floor, sometimes some clashes with my doublemate. surprisingly... the paint didnt chip off. muahahahaha...
awesome!
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~.~'

keep promote T200 then others all racket ma no need sell oledi?lol
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post Oct 11 2010, 05:12 PM

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Any good review about Arcsaber 008 T ? Kinda interested in it smile.gif
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QUOTE(arc1414 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:18 PM)
~.~'

keep promote T200 then others all racket ma no need sell oledi?lol
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haha true also. muahahaha!!!!!
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post Oct 11 2010, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Oct 11 2010, 09:25 AM)
Is it head heavy? The 70MG is and it's slow IMO. I'm used to head light rackets. But are there any head light and powerful rackets out there?
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wilson k-brave,no doubt.
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Is anyone using phiten necklace?
i might wanna invest in getting a cheap one. probably x50.
anyone got any comment bout it and any reputable online seller?
if not, i go shop get. haha
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post Oct 11 2010, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Oct 11 2010, 09:02 PM)
Is anyone using phiten necklace?
i might wanna invest in getting a cheap one. probably x50.
anyone got any comment bout it and any reputable online seller?
if not, i go shop get. haha
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im wondering if it has any effects hmm.gif

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